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>>665686
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The Patriot
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andrei rublev is best film
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>>665732
The costumes were good at least
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>300
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>>666093
>ridiculous heroes doing ridiculous things
Sound's quite Greek to me.

t. Homer
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>>666126
>lies and falsifications
Sounds like Greek "history" to me
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>>665686
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>>665686
>>666142
>>and Pic related
GOAT tier coming through
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>>666142
looks bretty gud

it's amazing how a baby emperor had such a stable rule in china. in medieval europe that baby would have been chucked out a window. wwooops
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Master and Commander, bitches
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>>666178
The books are better
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>>666162
>it's amazing how a baby emperor had such a stable rule in china.
Puyi's reign was anything but stable. The writing was on the wall even during the Empress Dowager's time that the Empire was probably not going to survive. He's an interesting figure though and the movie treats his life very fairly and without bowing to Western-friendly revisionist history.
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>>666183
I agree. I just started Thirteen Gun Salute tonight.
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>>665745
It was weird but I enjoyed it.
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>>665686
Brave heart

>Freeeeedoooooommmm
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>>665686
Dracula untold
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why does no one ever mention reds?
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Surprised no one posted this
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>>667130
Bresson's is better.
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Alexander was pretty decent. All the Iranian diaspora butthurt without the almost complete lack of historicity of something like 300. How can you not like it?
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>>667214
Too many incestuous overtones and shit writing.
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Gettysburg
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>>666804
Top kek
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>>666804
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter
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>>667248
What? It's about Vlad the impaler.
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>Nobody posted this yet
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>>667324
Spartacus > Barry Lyndon
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>>667330
Lel... not even close. Kubrick even disowned Spartacus.
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Love this film.

I also really enjoy "The Patriot."

Seeing the English defeated is comforting.
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>>667172
my nigga
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>>666801
The film responsible for the snp

Remember kids, propaganda, just say no
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>>666183
The books are unbearingly boring.
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>>667586
great movie.
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>>667589
Pleb detected

Most enjoyable series I've ever read desu.
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>>667589
>Realistic is boring

>His work during the war is murky in the details. He worked as an ambulance driver and he stated that he worked in intelligence. Dean King has claimed that O'Brian was actively involved in intelligence work and perhaps special operations overseas during the war.
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>Zulu has not been posted yet
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>>666161
THIS
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>>667224
>too many incestuous overtones

are you serious?
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>>667621
Racist shit
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>>667666
nice trips false flag /pol/
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>>667672
Muh /pol/ boogeyman

You seem lost -

>>>/tumblshit/
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>>667672
/pol/ calling shit Racist instead of saying niggers have you even been on /pol/ ?
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>>667676
kek
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>>667686
>doesn't understand false flagging.
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>>667692
Ok /pol/ bothering to false flag kek
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>>667698
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>>667692

Take your meds man
Paranoid much?
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>>667715
>>667698
>samefagging is cool bruh
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>>667621
As a /pol/ack let me sum this up britbong's attempt to restore order during a chimpout many britbongs and Dindu Nuffins die.
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>>667722
>p-p-p-p-/pol/s c-c-c-coming to get me!
>t-tttthey are in this very thread!
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>>667324
Boring and depressing in my opinion. Kubrick should have stuck to cinematography instead of directing.
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>>667666
>film depicting historical events is racist
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>>667859
When the historical events have been picked and described by white people, yes.
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>>667998
What about that is in any way racist?
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>>667998
By your logic, Saving Private Ryan is racist because a group of white people decided to write and create a film about the Normandy Landings despite the fact that the actual racist people in that movie could be considered the antagonists.
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Are there any good films about the Opium Wars or the Boxer Rebellion?
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>>665686
Roarks drift
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How has Hollywood not made a film about the fall of Constantinople yet? It's one of the few historical events that could translate near perfectly and accurately to film and still be good.

I am aware there's a Turkish film but aside from it's obvious pro-Ottoman bias it also has some poor writing where characters are concerned.
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Any decent 17th century war films?
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>>668151
we never even learned about it in school
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>>668016
1000 year from now there will be a movement saying that it was blacks who fought the second world war
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>>668225
I wouldn't have thought so, films didn't exist in the 17th century
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>>668151

Because white christians have to be good guys, but in this day and age its absolutely forbidden to portray muslims as bad guys. So you got a dilemma and obviously Hollywood is not the place where you can make a movie without a good guys vs bad guys narrative.
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>>666162
It only looks stable because the movie is shown from Puyi's point of view inside the palace before he gets thrown out.
If you get the historical background of the movie, and what the protests and things going on in the movie are about, then you understand why the makers of that movie portrayed it in such a way. They wanted to show just how isolated the emperor was to the political situation of China, until they started knocking on his door in the Forbidden City.
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>>666183
>>667589
>>667595
>>667615
The books are great. The movie is great. They are two different mediums and, as such, have two different ways of telling the story. You can't expect the movie to be as in depth and as thought-provoking as the books without being annoyingly tedious. You can't expect books to be as exciting and as visual as a movie. There are some stories that do better in books versus movies or vice versa. But I really think they did an excellent job of adapting a realistic and engaging historical fiction story into an exciting naval war drama.
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I like "Apocalypto" but I'm not so sure about it. I think it did fairly well on the setting though.
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Son of Saul, that Hungarian film about the Holocaust, was fucking phenomenal. It actually made me feel almost physically ill at one point, which practically never happens.
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>>668324
I personally think that issue could be easily resolved by portraying both Constantine XI and Mehmed II as noble and virtuous rulers (obviously the film would be from the Byzantine point of view).
Bad guys could be the Genoese cowards who fled the moment their commander got a boo-boo.
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Depends on your definition of historical film.

Tbh Black Hawk Down was quite good. Hotel Rwanda, Last King of Scotland also come to mind.
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>>668364
I like it too but I'm still not sure which empire represents the antagonists.
The buildings look Mayan but the warfare and sacrifice are Aztec.
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>>666801
This movie has single handedly fucked our society for the forseeable future. Fuck you.

t. Scot
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>>668324
>white christians have to be good guys
Lel 2 U
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>>667214
They just hated that saladin arab guy being Darius t.b.h.

I though the guy was great but well, diasporas are always autistic, specially in the new world. Nothing new under the sky.
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>>666804
I had fun with it. I mean, the part where the ottoman sultan fights him with money with just hilarious.

Great movie, it just needed different marketing. Nobody should take it seriously.
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>>665732
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>>665686
Not fully historical, but 100% fun. Still more accurate than 300.
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>>668414
iirc they're mayans.

The movie is not historically accurate though, and I've seen scholars getting really butthurt about it, so don't try to over-analyze it trying to understand who is who.
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>>665686
Daily reminder 300 WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE

It's based on the fantastical comic series
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>>667666

we watched this film in school back in the day :p
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>>668582
The writer of the comic was openly xenophobic against iranians, so it's not like the inaccuracies were naive or innocent either. If anything, not wanting to be accurate makes it worst this time.

Worst in the sense that people has an actual reason to be angry. I still enjoyed the movie t.b.h. (the first one, the second was crap).
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>>668594

t. persian mutant flipper man
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>>668324
It would be easy to solve this problem if you portray Mehmet II like Kingdom of Heaven portrayed Saladin.
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>>667340
Korean bootleg spotted. Damn i miss korea
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>>668597
Don't be fucking mean, we orc ninjas have feelings too.
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>>667998
By that logic, are all asian and latino histories lacking bias?

Films from the era contain many old racial stereotypes, but Zulu has none of them (except for perhaps those among the British). Everyone is depicted with dignity, and the film has nothing but respectful sentiments about the Zulus. There were even direct descendants of the original tribe who acted in the film.
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>>668610
American bias against Iran/Persians is the funniest shit.
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it's pretty well done

I'm surprised more films aren't set in Colonial Virginia considering how the sets and background reenactors are readily available.
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>>667998
It is easy calling this movie racist.

You are right. It was made from the white perspective, but this is a good thing, it means it goes further in showing how unethical systems and behavior can become normalized.

If it were made today the white officers would be portrayed as mindless buffoons who unquestioningly believe in the "civilizing mission", a meaningless disney-style view of good and evil.
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>>667340
Watched Waterloo the other night. Damn it's a strange film. Thoroughly enjoyed it though.
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>>668704
I just wish Malick would make more historical movies
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>>668240

The contributions of the French colonial troops in WW2 generally receive very little attention.
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>>669171
>The contributions of the French colonial troops in WW2 generally receive very little attention.
Especially after they raped a whole italian village.
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>>666135
isint that a good thing tho?
i mean the movie starts with a greek soldier telling a story, so wouldn't that naturally make sense that its exaggerated?
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Not really historical movie when it was made, but I think it should qualify as one now. It's a pretty good contemporary look into life after the war in Berlin.
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>>668704
>>669083

BASED MALICK
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Kingdom of Heaven but only the director's cut.
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>>667229
This, also Gods and Generals.
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>>667172
This
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>>667666
satan plz go
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>>667214
I really enjoyed it. I think, however that it really suffered from the fact that it tried to cover the many different Alexander's presented in current/ancient sources.

Should have been a direct focus on either Alexander the conqueror or Alexander the human.
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Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Khartoum
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>>668599
>Mehmet II
MY SON
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>>667172
Her last words in Bresson's film touched me deeply.
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>>667324
Amazing film.
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>>667666
>first whole scene of the movie is describing the Zulu customs at home
>humanizes the Zulu king
>goes to great lengths to describe the tactical methods employed by the Zulu during their battles
>has a soldier explain the meaning of the Zulu war chants to the British officers during the battle
>this is racist

Uh-huh
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>>665686

How historically accurate does a movie need to be in order to qualify? Going to post a bunch of movies which are comfy historical. You be the jjudge
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>>671558
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>>671560
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>>671565
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>>671572

Michael the Brave
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what do you think about this movie?
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>>667739
>Kubrick should have stuck to cinematography instead of directing

Yeah let's take one of the most meticulous and complex directors of all time and stick him behind the camera.
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>>671572
Accuracy-wise, it's pretty spot on. The ending was fictional, but based on a wide breadth of theories about Beethoven's life.
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>>672637
>arguing with /tv/ contrarians

y
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REMOVE KEBAB REMOVE KEBAB
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>>672119
propaganda
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>>668683
>Jewish bias against Iran/Persians
ftfy
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>>672659
Spite of the futility.
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>>673221
so villagers in Belarus were never executed by Germans en masse?
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>>673227
*Zionist bias against the Islamic Republic of Iran

Jews who reject Israel have no problem with Iran, especially how it has the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East. Not to mention the fact that the Bible literally calls Cyrus the Great "annointed of God", making him the only non-Jew to receive such a title. And both countries were pretty bro before the revolution.

Which in turn makes it even funnier, because dissing the pre-Islamic heritage of Iran doesn't hit the Islamic Republic as hard as it hits the diaspora, which for the most part hates Islam and clings onto the whole Zoroastrian thing.
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>>673227

>Ancient Greek bias against Persians
FTFY

300 worked wonderfully once you realized it was Thermopylae as the ancient Greeks would have seen it. The Persians were intentionally portrayed as weird to reflect exaggerated Greek stereotypes of Oriental peoples.
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>>673289
>once you realized
It was pretty clear that it was meant that way, what with the framing device of that one-eyed dude telling the entire story to other troops before the battle of Plataea.
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>>667130

> three hours of b/w people staring at the camera doing sad faces
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>>667214

> rosario dawson's boobs

Great movie indeed
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Thank you for recommending good movies /his/.
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>>673233
No
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>>673388
>dindu nuffin

ugh
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>>668601
Is it nice? Thinking about going.
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