>>660699 Also they weren't as Militaristic and didn't take the Punic War as seriously as the Romans did, The Fact that The Cathagians reached Italy Made the Romans fanatics while many in Carthage went out to hinder the efforts for their own political Gains
>>660721 This made zero difference. Carthage sent Hannibal what reinforcements they could, and they could not have supplied more. Carthage was not a serious rival after the 1st PW, as Rome controlled the Med. Hannibal's chimpout could end in only one way and that's what happened.
>>660736 This. I dont think anyones sure how the Romans did it, but they managed to build up navies really quick. Whatever hannibal managed to accomplish didnt matter becuase the romans then grabbed cathage by the balls by sending troops to fuck up Sicily or north africa.
1st Punic war sealed carthage's fate. Should have just been happy with what it had in Sicily.
They did it the same way we do it now, they built mock ships (or real ships) in man-made lakes or lagoons and trained their crews there. Put that Roman genius for practical engineering to good use, plus a few clever gizmos like the boarding corvus.
>>660913 >It's the classical equivalent of murrica vs japan. >Well, America already had a capable navy and good sailors, but whatever. Except USN defeated IJN with ships in hand, not with newly built ships.
>>661096 Note that he said "classical equivalent", not "classic equivalent", he was noting the time period of the case as opposed to the modern America vs. Japan case. It doesn't necessarily make him any more accurate regarding their similarities, but it seemed like you might have misread him there slightly.
>>661209 That the exceptionally skilled japanese sailors and aviators took on a power made up of inferior pilots and (arguably) seamen and got absolutely drowned in blood because numbers and industry matter.
>>661222 Except "exceptionally skilled japanese sailors and aviators" managed to lose in 1942 to the USN that existed already in 1942, while almost always having numerical advantage. They also suffered horrific attrition, even in battles they supposedly won.
>>661234 And more importantly: who were the people of Tartessos? They were not Phoenician, and not Celtic (evidence being that Greco-Roman historians said they traded with Celtic lands--the implication being they were not on Celtic lands themselves). They also had an "Orientalized" culture. Could they have been another Semitic peoples whom were both earlier and less prolific than the Phoenicians?
>>661254 Tartessos was never found and is probably a myth.. Tartessian is just a namde made up by archeologists and linguists to refer to an ancient language found in the area dating to the sixth-fith century bc. Tarshish (the biblical city) on the other hand, probably referred to Sardinia, the only document mentioning Tarshish outside of the Eastern med is in Sardinia and dated to 850 bc which was actually quite advanced during that time (pic related), while there were not advanced settlemnts in the early iron age in the area of Tartessos (While Bronze age and early iron age Sardinia is covered in monuments and has the oldest statues in Europe).
>>660664 >>660699 Also, Carthage was Phoenician. Many modern day Lebanese, especially Maronites, claim to be of Phoenician decent, and most Lebanese schools teach kids that they are of Phoenician decent, but i don't know how accurate these claims are.
So, we write using the Latin alphabet it is derived from the Greek alphabet which is adapted from the Phoenician alphabet which is a Semitic writing system? is this correct? are we being Jewed by writing?
>>661588 Its basically a Christian meme to make themselves seem special and separate them from the Shiites and Sunnis they were fighting. Really, Phoenician genes are probably spread out around levantine populations. Iirc analysis done on a Phoenician mummy found strongly suggested that they were genetically close to all of the Lebanese population regardless of sect
>>664579 In fact, much of the Eastern Mediterranean populations (especially the Greek Peninsula, the Aegean Islands, Anatolian coasts, the Levant and the Jewish diaspora) are almost indistinguishable genetically.
>>660736 >Carthage sent Hannibal what reinforcements they could, and they could not have supplied more. Uh, no they didn't.
There was an active block within the Carthaginian government opposed to Hannibal completely, so they sent him virtually nothing, and sent as little as they could get away with to his brother Hasdrubal in Iberia.
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