Whats the most important city in history ?

>>659646
Culturally speaking:

>Europe
Rome
Athens
Constantinople/Istanbul
>Middle East
Jerusalem.
Mecca
>Southern Asia
????
>East Asia
Chang'an
Kyoto
>Southeast Asia
Angkor Thom
Whatever founded the Sri Vijaya.

>>659646
Atlantis

>>659654
>Europe
Paris
Paris
Paris

>>659670
More like least important

>>659670
>Paris
For fashion fags maybe.

>>659676
More like best city in the history of the world ever

>>659678
What about actual fags?

Rome or Berlin

>>659678

That would be Milano.

>>659684
Give me two good reasons why Berlin is worth noting at-fucking-all

>>659646
Rome and Babylon

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Leicester City

Jerusalem

The Eternal City

>>659664
Atlanta*

Rome tbqh

>>659681
>More like best city in the history of the world ever
What makes you so convinces of this?

>All the euro centrists in this thread
>Pretending its not Beijing

>>659646
Well, Constantinople was an indirect cause for discovering America accidentally.
I guess you could say it was the most important city in history.

>>659791
Beijing was only build by the mongols and only during the early Ming Dynasty was the capital of a histoycally relevant empire.

You can say that Kaifeng, Changan, Luoyang or Jinzhou were all more important chinese cities during their long history.

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>>659791
Beijing is literally the youngest of China's capitals.

"The City" in China, the Rome equivalent, was Chang'an. It was the capital of the Kingdom of Qin which created the Empire. From 200's BC to 900's AD, all unified dynasties up to the T'ang situated their capital in Chang'an as a symbol of Imperial Continuity/Legacy.

Its's urban plan was considered the perfect urban plan in East Asia. Chinese cities all over copied its plan. The capitals of Korean/Japanese/Vietnamese states copied it's plan. Hell Kyoto was a direct copy of it.

It also contained Daming Palace. Which is the biggest palace in Asia and set the standard for Palaces in the region. It is 4 times the size of the forbidden city- which in itself was a homage to Daming Palace. Unfortunately it was burned down during the Dynastic Wars of the 900's and only its foundations remain visible.

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>>659689
>WWI
>WWII

>>659825
>From 200's BC to 900's AD, all unified dynasties up to the T'ang situated their capital in Chang'an

Luoyang was the capital during 200 years of Han rule and if Im not wrong again when China was united again for a while after the Three Kingdoms period.

>>659654
>Middle East
Jerusalem.
Mecca

Honestly there are so many cities in the middle east that were important in the fullness of history.

You've got

Damascus
Babylon
Baghdad
Sumer
Uruk
Ur
Assur
Niveneh

>>659856
You do realize that history is a bit longer then 80 years right, burgerfag?

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>>659654
How could you forget Ayuttaya?

>>659646
Richmond, Virginia, capital of the Confederacy

>>659862
>Luoyang was the capital during 200 years of Han rule
Han rule was 400 years.

Also its first capital was Chang'an. Then Wang Mang's dickery happened. After that they moved to Luoyang. Though Chang'an was still culturally important. I mean, hell, Luoyang was just spitting distance from Chang'an, wanting to be close as possible to thc cultural Capital.

>>659646
Rome
The civilisation came from there

>>659874
Ayyuthaya was inspired by Angkor.

Since, you know, that Thai were settled in what was once Khmer Provinces

>>659885
Well yeah, but didnt change the fact that Luoyang was for just as long the capital as Changan (though the other one was always the second capital up to the end of the Tang)

>>659646
>>Southern Asia????
Varanasi?

>>659863
Not to mention the Persian ones:

Hamadan
Susa
Esfahan
Tabriz
Shiraz
Samarqand
Merv
Bokhara
Khiva
ect

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>>661361

>>659646
New york

america

>>659879
Yeah pretty much this

>>659646
arguably Brussels

but the most important city in all of history we probably dont know the name of

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>>659646
>Whats the most important city in history ?

Probably split between Istanbul and Jerusalem. Rome is also up there, even if its mostly overrated.
Athens maybe? Their attempt at imperialism dictated much of early history, and their cultural life influenced all of Europe for thousands of years.

Venice
Istanbul
Rome
Carthage
Jerusalem
Mecca

through in a handful of super ancient cities in the mid east too

>>663614
Rome, Venice and Carthage have only been very important for a limited amount of time.
Istanbul, Jerusalem and Mecca have been relevant and important for many hundreds of years. They are in a league of their own.

Memel 100%..

>>663618
without Carthage, there is no Rome

>>663621
And thats the limit of Carthage's relevance to the greater history of the world.

>>663614
>Carthage more important than London

>>663630
London is not an important city.

>>663630
London has been completely irrelevant until recently though.

>>663618
>Rome has only been importante for a limited amount of time
is 1000 years not enough?

>>663627
The Punic Wars made Rome what it was.

>>663632
>>663633
it may have been irrelevant but its been the financial centre of the world for over a century now

exactly what Carthage was except London has a stronger legacy than Carthage who got cucked

>>663640
If Carthage's biggest achievement is being a punching bag for another overrated city, then its not as important as you claim.

New york

>>663694
New York is a very New city. It changed nothing in History

>>659646
Jerusalem tbqh. Centre of the three major Abrahamic religions, it has driven politics since 3000 years ago among major empires, and continues to drive politics today around the world.

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Bielefeld

>>659863
Catal Huyuk could be on that list

BTW, not sure if i´ve seen Athens on this thread, but it should definately be mentioned

>>663793
Dude, there iisn´t even evidence that bielefeld exists. Go back to Atlantis you conspirating fagget

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>>663580
>>663614
>>663618
>Istanbul

>>663822
not constantinople now
it is istanbul

>>663822
>700 years later, he still mad

>>663825
>>663828
mehmet
my son

>>663841
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople

Jerusalem
Rome
Istambul
Constantinople

More recently
Paris
London
Berlin
New York
Moscow

Helsinki

>>664393
>not Pyongyang
Finnish scum detected

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris

why do people love signing treaties in Paris so much

>>663851
If you have a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting in Istanbul

Constantinople, Alexandria, lacadaemonia/Athens, Rome, London, Jerusalem ... Bukhara and Kashgar?

>>659654
In addition to the ones you posted. Keep in mind these are the most important, not just the 'greatest'.

>Europe
Paris
London (and probably some other cities involved in the industrial revolution)
Florence
Kiev
Moscow
Lisbon
Probably some European colonial cities outside of Europe itself (eg. Goa, Batavia, Mexico, etc)
Maybe Venice and Genoa

>Middle East
Uruk
Babylon
Baghdad

>Southern Asia
Pataliputra
Delhi

>East Asia
Tokyo
Beijing
Anyang
Probably a few more Chinese ones

>Southeast Asia (these are only really important on a region scale though)
Trowulan
Ayutthaya
Pagan

>>659646
Berlin

>>659646
Probably Jerusalem.
Istanbul/Rome/Venice/Baghdad/Damascus/Mecca/Zanzibar get honorable mentions.
London and New York are also important, but have not been for very long.

>>663643
u spelt nyc wrong

>>659654
>>664633
These. Good work m8s.

Also, Vienna. Culturally significant - basically a lesser Florence.

>>659646
Atlantis

>>664526
That song is so annoying

>>663643
>London has a stronger legacy than Carthage who got cucked
I don't think you've been to London m8

>>663828
>>663614
>>663618
>>659646

~100* years later.

Ottomans used a turkified Constantinople (Konstantinyee i think), it was the Turks who changed it to Istanbul. Istanbul has only been regionally relevant, but the same city with a different name a few hundred years ago was the center of the world.

>>665182
Point being that the city was only relevant with under the name Constantinople or variations of it. By the time it was changed to Istanbul it was largely irrelevant.

>>659646
fucking rome
sorry it's not a new or interesting answer but that's because it's so clearly true

Moscow

Make or break empires trying to capture it

Poland/Lithuania
France
Germany
The Golden horde

>>664523
Good question actually. "It's a nice place" can't be the only reason.

>>665280
>"It's a nice place" can't be the only reason.
It is. Also the reason there are so many treaties of versailles

>>659730
kek, nice story this season, hope you win the title.

Rome is still kind of relevant because the Pope resides there

>Ancient era
Alexandria
Babylon
Athens
>Medieval period
Rome
Constantinople
Damascus
>Early modern era
Paris
Constantinople aka Istambul
>Industrial revolution times
London
New York

>>668126
pope is irrelevant though

Washington DC
New York
Los Angeles
Houston
etc

>>659646
Tallahassee, Florida.

>Europe
Rome
Athens
Istanbul
Possibly Paris but that's pushing it
>Mid East
Baghdad
Ur, Sumer
Jerusalem
Mecca
>South Asia
Delhi
>East
Kyoto
All of China's imperial cities
>New World
Tenochtitlan
Cuzco
Cahokia is irrelevant
>Africa
Timbuktu?

>>659730
>Coach is born in the city of Rome

THIRD ROME CONFIRMED

>>659871
You do realize that period is incredibly important to how things are today, right?

>>661361

اصفهان نصف جهان است، ای دسو سنپای

>>659646
as in a big player in the world for a long length of time? Egypt or Rome, Babylon and Nineveh

pure power and central dominance from a material and raw numbers standpoint? New York, London, Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul