Knights were completly useless
>defeated by mongols
>crusades were failures
name 5 noteworthy knights
there is a reason why when people talk about historical badasses they mention Spartans, Samurai, Vikings but never knights they were just embarassingly bad I'm surprised they were even a thing
Samurai are only well known because a bunch of butthurt samurai living after the actual fighting samurai glorified the hell out of the fighting samurai because the butthurt samurai would never get to actually fight anyone except for the occasional peasant beheading.
ITT: People whose sole historic education is Monty Python
The crusades were a major succes
Knights nearly killed the mongol commander in Hungary
Louis de Chalon-Châtel-Guyon
Georg von Ehingen
y'all a bunch of coblers sons and twats to the highest degree,
Knights are still Alive and Fighting Today so how can they be useless you MUG!
Richard the Lionheart, Ivanhoe, Parzival, Lancelot, Agathaaaaaaaa
The first crusade should serve as an example what happens when rabble tries to fight and when knights and soldiers lead by nobles try to fight.
>1st contingent of crusaders (Set out first, mostly peasant piligrims)
>Get across bosphorus
>2nd contingent of crusaders (Lead by feudal lords and knights)
>Defeats the turks in open battle and make them rout so bad they never come back
>Defeat army of 20,000 from Aleppo with 700 knights
>Defeat counter-siege army of 30,000 with 15,000 starved and tattered soldier
>Go onwards to Jerusalem
>March to acre and slaughter reinforcements from Egypt
>Literally finish crusade subjugating everything in their way and defeating any army in their path
Yeah fuck knights amirite
The Codex Manesse is filled with noteworthy knights. Just look them up.
>Walther von der Vogelweide (c. 1170 – c. 1230) is the most celebrated of the Middle High German lyric poets.
>For all his fame, Walther's name is not found in contemporary records, with the exception of a solitary mention in the travelling accounts of Bishop Wolfger of Erla of the Passau diocese: "Walthero cantori de Vogelweide pro pellicio v solidos longos"--"To Walther the singer of the Vogelweide five shillings for a fur coat." The main sources of information about him are his own poems and occasional references by contemporary Minnesingers. He was a knight, but probably not a wealthy or landed one. His surname, von der Vogelweide, suggests that he had no grant of land, since die Vogelweide ("the bird-pasture") seems to refer to a general geographic feature, not a specific place. He probably was knighted for military bravery and was a retainer in a wealthy, noble household before beginning his travels.
>Soldiers with the best equipment
>Who could spend their lives training for battle instead of labouring
>there is a reason why when people talk about historical badasses they mention Spartans, Samurai, Vikings but never knights
If by people you mean your group of weeb friends, but people who study history refer to chevaliers all the time.
Knights were like having an Air Force.
If you dont have them but the other side does you are fucked.
If neither side has them, its ok.
If both sides have them, they look like they get nothing done except cost a lot fuck tonne of money when you lose one.
>defeated by mongols
This meme needs to die d e s u s e n p a i.
>The invading force entered and burned the town of Pest, which had long since been abandoned by its population, who fled south and west of the Danube. During this event, members of Queen Elizabeth's household launched a spirited and effective sally against the Mongols, while she watched from the safety of the walls of Buda. The Mongols were ultimately defeated when met head-on in battle by the hastily assembled royal army of Ladislaus IV, in the hills of western Transylvania. The army had benefited from the reforms and had a higher proportion of "knights" than the army the Mongols had defeated a few decades earlier at Mohi.
>The Danelaw (also known as the Danelagh; Old English: Dena lagu; Danish: Danelagen), as recorded in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, is a historical name given to the part of England in which the laws of the Danes held sway and dominated those of the Anglo-Saxons. Danelaw contrasts West Saxon law and Mercian law.
So the place with their influence, doesn't mean they conquered england you tard
decendents of norse raiders that absorbed into frankish culture and became part of france
Fucking retard are you some kinda fucktarded americlap that thinks they're german or norse or some shit?
Because the first two times, the hungarians and poles mostly fielded lighter cavalry, and even then the few knights they did have performed well. Once they started fielding knights en masse against the mongols, they defeated them.
Sure thing m8
"The Hungarian and Croatian attempt to halt the invasion at the Battle of Mohi failed catastrophically. The light cavalry that made up most of the Hungarian mounted forces had proven ineffective against the Mongol troops, though the few heavily armored knights (mostly those of the Knights Templar) performed significantly better. (Sugar, p.27)"
"The Mongols were ultimately defeated when met head-on in battle by the hastily assembled royal army of Ladislaus IV, in the hills of western Transylvania. The army had benefited from the reforms and had a higher proportion of "knights" than the army the Mongols had defeated a few decades earlier at Mohi."
>behold, I am the Finias Tunisia the Knight of Fish! My strikes are swifter than the flick of a salmon's tail and stronger than the waves that crash toward shores.
>horse: woe is me, for I am forever condemned to carrying this set of armor plates that smells vaguely if rotten tuna. Pity me, for this is my fate till the day I trout no more.
I don't remember even one anti viking thread when anyone successfully defended them unless you count ''lmao christcucks xD'' and ''they conquered England because Normans were vikings'' as BTFO
While they are the feudal warriors of Japan, their way of life and role in combat are very different.
Bushido evolved to becoming an true warrior code that was relatively solid in its practices and had a serious influence over not only its practitioners but the rest of Japanese society as well. If a samurai (even one of significant status) is discovered to have acted against bushido his honor (and often life) is forfeit.
Chivalry on the other hand is a vague moral code which knights followed at will and with little consequence.
This has nothing to do with their combat effectiveness but the lifestyle which they followed.
Within an arbitrary framework that a priori excludes them from being knights.
>Durrr King Richard wasn't a knight because he was a king hurrrr
Not necessarily so. He was pointing it out what they are actually famous for (in his opinion).
It could be countered by providing arguments about their abilities as knights if you disagree with him. For example I hear Richard was a pretty dab hand with a battle axe, not merely a king.
>defeated by Mongols
Well, it's no surprise. The Mongols were a huge horde.
Arguably. Christianity kept most of its lands due to knights despite the obvious numerical disadvantage.
This one is just bullshit.
Now for the bonus round!
Glorified Hollywood "warriors" :")
The fact is that anon's opinion is based on an arbitrary framework that a priori excluded those men from knighthood and therefore the meme was appropriate.
If you felt that was the claim he was making you should have attacked him on the basis of trying to establish what the definition of knight was and shown him to be incorrect, which you could have done rather than complaining.
I quite agree with you that it is possible, for example, to be a king and a knight.