>>617036 Oh now I get it. I'm not the OP but I thought you misunderstood the meaning of a bar graph. I just assumed it's students since it says so in the title and its talking about graduating...agreed OP could have labels it, but you're just being a fussy ward
>>617044 Or could it be the earnings of each degree? Or could it be students graduating who don't attain median pay? Or could it be students graduating unemployed after 5 years? Or students graduating and not employed in a field related to their degree after five years? Or could it be marmosets?
We will never know.
Posting mislabeled graphs is the easiest way to detect a fuckwit from >>>/pol/. Get thee hence.
>>616965 The obvious thing is that there are only 2 engineering degrees shown but I guess that CS is the most popular one now.
The reason why are so many people studying humanities nowadays is because: >college life propaganda in media. All the movies about college student partying all the time. You CAN'T MISS IT, MAAAAAAAAAAAN! Except going to trade school and working while partying is much simpler AND cheaper to pull-off >they're seen as easy >once blue-collar work became outsourced, people saw that the ones with degrees of any sort had it much easier to cope with it, so they've swarmed the degrees en-masse. It caused disproportion in the other side as now we lack simple labourers but have tons of sociologists >instant gratification generation wanting to exceed their childhood
>>618086 The problem is in our perceiving of degrees. They suddenly became mark of professional while irl. majority of engineers are glorified technicians who had calculus classes. Shoddy technicians that had calculus classes.
>>616965 I get so tired of hearing the mantra that you've somehow wasted your life if you aren't in STEM. Frankly, I made a choice not to do STEM because I don't want a STEM related career. I'm interested in public policy and international affairs, and if I have to crunch numbers I'd rather it be for data analysis research on social issues to inform policy decisions. I made this choice fully realizing that it is not an easy field to break into for well paying jobs, but it interests me. You have your whole life to waste away doing things you hate to make someone else money. Now, I'm not sure what communications majors really do these days other than write click bait for low-rent blog sites, and psychology may as well be a self-diagnosis community Ed course, although psych degrees do factor into criminal science and other social sciences. Ultimately, liberal arts and humanities are about how you sell yourself, and having realistic expectations about career prospects. I will say one thing, I noticed that my friends from university that did hard STEM fields with no liberal arts weren't as equipped for critical thinking and transferring analysis tools outside of their field.
Philosophy graduate here. Not kidding, the biggest mistake I have made in my life is not continuing science. Sciences + maths were my best subjects at school but I hated being a nerd and I thought humanities would get me chicks. It didn't because I was still a nerd.
So I didn't have a choice when it came to university - I hadn't done the sciences in the last two years of school, so I couldn't do science. Philosophy was the most "sciency" degree I could think of (formal logic is a lot like algebra, really).
Web development was the only career direction I could think of because I knew something about it. I could try and get a grad scheme at some big FTSE 100 company, like a bank, big retail company, something like that, being some fucking office lackey doing God knows what, but I reckon that would be proper shit. Large faceless organisation where you're just another cog in the machine, plus I bet those companies attract people that will shit on you to advance their careers no matter what. Web development is perhaps a bit less ruthless.
I would like to go into law or medicine because I know that I'm capable of either. But either would require lots of money I guess.
>>616998 >probable STEMfag getting butthurt over muh data >title of chart, "Students are not Graduating with the Degrees that Pay" >key words to title, "Degrees" and "Pay" >STEMfag having reading comprehension or knowing what key words are (lel) >x axis is degrees >y axis ????????? Oh you're right, the chart is flawed. We must throw this data out.
>>616965 >ROTC >BA History >Get into Seminary >Become Chaplain Candidate >M.Div >Become Army Chaplain >Minister to soldiers, build ministry experience, see Christian soldiers grow in their relationship with God >Possibly get Ph.D. after I get out and become either a history professor or pastor
This is the path I'm looking at. Not really my choice though. I'm glad to be chosen to do something so important, though.
The point of me posting is just to show that studying history is not a waste of time. History doesn't necessarily translate directly into something else, because it's not a trade. History is known to be one of the BEST preparatory majors for graduate studies in law, business, theology, and many other things. If you want to do something needing beyond a bachelor's, consider history if you like it. It will not hurt you, unless your upper education is going to be STEM. Within the humanities, history is the best.
>>618647 Generally speaking it's mostly for the diploma that allows you to make shitty piece of spaghetti code with no documentation for some bank, slack in work only solving critical issues and get huge paycheck with the satisfaction that if they'll throw you out, nobody will understand anything from your code so you always have an upper hand in negotiations.
If you don't have a degree banks likely won't want to hire you since they want actual professionals to handle their stuff.
>>618683 The thing is that it can't go wrong. You can be shitty coder so you'll make money in start-ups. You can be great and make lots of money in software programming and "serious" contracts.
If you'd pick chemistry and end up being poor chemist you're going to McDonalds. If you'd pick Electric Engineering and end up being shitty EE you'll earn pennies for making installations which is something you could do after trade school.
This is going to sound arrogant but not everyone can do STEM at a much harsher degree than is true for the humanities. It was mind blowing how much easier upper division history courses were compared to my upper division Computer Engineering courses.
Although, for all the shit that humanities majors get, business majors are let off the hook so much. A business "degree" is the biggest crock of shit in the entire US education system and requires the brain power of a gnat to acquire.
I've been stuck in a dead end office job for nearly a year. Making my move out of here by applying for a temp teaching certificate. I have an offer to teach AP US History and AP Human Geo at a high school, I'm probably going to take that up and get out of here.
>>618927 If you write good-paying articles at a fairly swift clip, you can make enough to live by.
It's incredibly hard to do this, however, which is why at the moment I'm living in my parents' house. So it's not necessarily something to pursue unless it's your genuine passion--or, again, if you're REALLY good at it, because sooner or later talent wins out and you'll hit it big.
>>618166 This is the problem. And the uni system as a whole has become vocationalized. As much as 4chan likes to STEM-bait it's not like those degrees are that much harder to attain. The whole system spoon-feeds you every subject, and you're not even expected to understand it.
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