When did Roman Catholics start becoming slack with Fasting? Today it's only an hour of fasting before communion, but I know it goes back way further since eating fish throughout Lent has been permissible for a while, whereas fish, oil, eggs, dairy products and meat are all prohibited in Orthodox Christianity during lent, except on the Weekend when oil and wine are permitted. Also Wednesday and Fridays are fast days (the Didache supports this), no oil, wine, meat, dairy, eggs or fish, but I don't think Roman Catholics observe that anymore (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
The pre-communion Fast is no drink or food at all, which hasn't been broadened in diet, but in trmeframe. For the Orthodox Church, it means not eating at all that day prior to Communion, but for the Roman Catholic Church it means not eating for an hour beforehand.
Also, the Christmas Eve Fast of the Orthodox Church is zero food or drink for the entirety of Christmas Eve
Orthodox don't have a Pope in the sense Catholics do. The Bishop of Alexandria is referred to as Pope, but the title doesn't mean the same thing. If you mean the Bishop of Moscow becoming Ecumenical Patriarch, I wouldn't be that too much desu
What about Orthodox vegans? If they don't actually break their fast they're not actually fasting, a fast is a limited abstinence by definition.
Hell, one of Martin Luther's complaints against catholics was that they weren't fasting hard enough. They practiced "distinguishing of meats" (shit like no red meat, but fish being ok) rather than full abstinance for the purpose of praying rather than eating at meal times.
It's a long standing issue.
Fasting is a matter of discipline. Catholic fasting is lax to instill a concept of it. We expect you to advance it further as you see fit but keep the base level always.
For example, nothing is stoping Catholics from doing an Orthodox Lenten fast, but we ARE required to not eat meat on Fridays in Lent. It used to be ALL Firdays were no non-fish meat (in America at least) and if you want to complain about that, then do it to the USCCB. It's why the Filet-O-Fish sandwich exists.
>TFW I always eat meat on Friday's as Catholic. I dunno how I'm gonna handle fasting as an Orthodox
Yes, but not in the same way as catholics.
Bear in mind that 500 years ago, the catholic church had far more autistic rules regarding what food are and are not acceptable on specific days of the week. "Distinction of meats" is largely an argument against these no longer practiced "fasts" that have no basis in scripture.
I go to church weekly. I don't have the will to fast
Well fasting is kind of important, just as prayer and Confession are. It purifies us spiritually. There's nothing wrong with enjoying good food, but it should serve us rather than the other way around, and fasting is a good way to reassert the spirit's control here. Fasting is also a really important devotional, which is why Jesus did it.
I'll do that later. For now I want to enjoy the fruits of the earth
I don't presume to know what will be saved and who will damned, but I do know that not fasting is a major cause of spiritual corruption, and probably the root of what's wrong with Western Christianity.
I was told that you can't have a full meal an hour before mass
Not him, but what first drew me towards the Orthodox church was that they didn't seem as legalistic as the Roman Catholics. So when I found out the Orthodox has all these prescribed rules on fasting and who can eat what on this day and all this other noise it really took me aback. How is this not the same legalist trap the pharisees and the Roman Catholics fell into?
Kek, heck no.
This is what the Pharisees are like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law#Minuscule_quantities
Orthodox fasting is relatively straightforward, it's just longer fasts get certain things lifted on the weekend.
Fasting in Orthodox Christianity has nothing to do with dietary law, it's a devotional, like prayer.
Skipping Church is a sin, unless you have a good reason. It's probably not something you'd have to do penance for though, unless it got to be a habit. Same with breaking the fast. But if you completely disregard fasts, that's not good at all, it's like completely disregarding prayer. Fasting is an integral part of Christianity and always has been.
Fasting is meant for discipline and self control not because foods like meat or dairy are bad or forbidden for consumption. The NT has references to fasting and the Didache advises fasting twice a week if I recall
Jews always fasted for twice a week, and Christianity is continuance of Judaism. Christians fasted on different days, though, to distinguish themselves from the Pharisees (as per the Didache), these days being Wednesday and Friday. The significance of those days are Christ's betrayal, and Crucifixion.