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Is it true the Levant was full of white people until the replaced them during the Islamic conquests?
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>>612573
no
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>>612573

No.
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>>612573

DEFINE "WHITE PEOPLE".
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They looked mostly like Assad if you consider him white
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>>612573
>We were monarchs and excrement.
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>>612573
>those shoes
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>>612573
It was full of Greek, Assyrian and Arab Christians living under Byzantine rule
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>>612623
Fag
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>>612573
Do you really think a handful of beoudin nomads are responsible for there being brown people over all the middle east and north africa?
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>>612647
In the Levant, yes
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>>612693
Why? also source?
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The Christian population is still pretty (and) white
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>>612699
That is because they mixed with crusaders
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>>612699
Why is she so upset ;_;
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>>612699
Whiter than me desu
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http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316

>We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.?
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>>612693
Less than 3,000 people somehow replaced millions
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>>612752
>Our results show recent genetic stratifications in the Levant are driven by the religious affiliations of the populations within the region. Cultural changes within the last two millennia appear to have facilitated/maintained admixture between culturally similar populations from the Levant, Arabian Peninsula, and Africa. The same cultural changes seem to have resulted in genetic isolation of other groups by limiting admixture with culturally different neighboring populations. Consequently, Levant populations today fall into two main groups: one sharing more genetic characteristics with modern-day Europeans and Central Asians, and the other with closer genetic affinities to other Middle Easterners and Africans. Finally, we identify a putative Levantine ancestral component that diverged from other Middle Easterners ∼23,700–15,500 years ago during the last glacial period, and diverged from Europeans ∼15,900–9,100 years ago between the last glacial warming and the start of the Neolithic.
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>>612752
In short, while the Levant wasn't "European" it was certainly more "White" prior to the Arab conquests.
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>>612758
>Consequently, Levant populations today fall into two main groups: one sharing more genetic characteristics with modern-day Europeans and Central Asians, and the other with closer genetic affinities to other Middle Easterners and Africans.

Which supports the contention that the Near East / Mid East was European in nature prior to the (Beoudin Arab) Muslim conquests.
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>>612758
>>612768
> we identify a putative Levantine ancestral component that diverged from other Middle Easterners ∼23,700–15,500 years ago during the last glacial period, and diverged from Europeans ∼15,900–9,100 years ago

Separate levantine grouping since 15,900-9,100 years ago?
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Small invasion forces can't change demographics of millions unless they go full mongol and te medieval arabs didn't go full mongol.
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Most Levantines are still white today, the Muslim conquests didn't get rid of the original population and replace them with a brown horde.
Obviously they're not blond blue eyed Germanic looking white people but there isn't much difference between the average Syrian and Italian today, just as there wasn't much difference historically.
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>>612780
Im not sure what your definition of small invasion forces is. While the Islamic force that took Egypt was relatively small tens of thousands of soldiers were needed to take the Levant and Persia. The successive mass death of particularly males and the new social strata of Arab domination would certainly trend towards Arab Y-chromosomes becoming the dominant ones especially over centuries.
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>>612798
I'm white but what do you mean by

>Most Levantines are still white today

White (Caucasian i'm guessing is what you mean) is an outdated category, genetically there is more nuance than is expressed in the 'white' category.
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>>612819
Many Syrians and other Levantines have more European admixture than Semitic/Arab admixture therefore they can be considered white compared to Yemenis or gulf Arabs
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>>612833
>can be considered white

Wouldn't it be more accurate to call them their own grouping? see >>612773
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>>612573
Nah nothing suggests that
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>>612573
Nice hoofs, the woman.
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>>612728
jews invading her country m8
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>>612573
Yes, they looked like Sardinians.
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>>613150
>this Sardinian faggot shitting up every thread
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>>613252
It's true though, also I've not posted in like a month.
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>>612573
>>612647
>>612693
>I'm totally not delusional guys I swear
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The Greeks/Macedonians heavily colonized the middle east so there's bound to be descendants.
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>>612573

WE
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>>612770
The mongol empire controls India? I never knew that.
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Basically the Levant was more "white" because Greeks had "whited" the population for centuries prior. Arabs moving up from the peninsula then "browned" it. It makes sense that current "white" Arabs are Christian because they have a stronger Greek ancestry and that "dark" Arabs are Muslim because they have a stronger peninsula Arab ancestry.
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WE WUZ WHITE N SHIEEET!!

Pls accept us as equals and give your daughters
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>>613765
Not the guy, but, the Mughals were a thing.
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>>612728
muslims
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>>612573
No
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>>612573
I can not define in the level of that question in words. Goes beyond mental retardation.

>>612699
A significant part is descendant from Crusaders.

Before OP ask, no, they did not travel in time to the Pre-Islamic Levant.
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>>616343
>A significant part is descendant from Crusaders.

Proof?
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>>612573
Possibly.
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>>616575
He just made it up
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>>612699
>>617318
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>>617318
Ever heard of /crusader states/?
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>>616575
>>617318

But people from Europe were actively migrating to crusader states while they existed.
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>>617511
you mean those artificial states in constant war and begging for help of yurop all the time
what a paradise for settlers indeed
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>>612752
>>612758
>>612768
>>612770

Iit's saying the modern Levantine Christian populations stopped mixing with sub-Saharan populations around 2000 years ago, while Muslim Levantines stopped 600 years ago. The Arab conquests only isolated the Levantines who didn't convert to Islam from other Middle Eastern populations who did.

All divergences seem to be ancient, or else timed with different events and not the 7th century AD.
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>>617511
>>617517
Source?
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>>612833
arab admixture I can buy, but being more European than semitic?

Where is the proofs?
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>>617986
The journal link earlier in this thread talks about this, but it's more accurate to say that Levantines are more closely related to Europeans than they are other Middle Easterners, rather than saying they're more European than Semitic. It's not as if the old Levantines were European settlers or anything, just that the Levantines stopped mixing with sub-Saharan peoples a few thousand years before they stopped migrating into Europe. Thus the Europeans and Levantines had a more recent common ancestor population than Levantines and other Middle Easterners.
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>>616116

FIXED THAT FOR YOU
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>>612573
I'm 0% European, I'm from northern Iraq and I'm white skinned but not Euro looking. Kind of like a Jew. Also how can Jews be white but native Levantines not be? They've ask got negro admixture from Arabs and their African slave trade.
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>>616116
I would like to make love to the Syrian girl's mouth
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>>616116
I have a gorillion pictures of qt IDF grills pham
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>>619043
Was Syrian girl actually beheaded?
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