>>586285 It's shit tier. I don't doubt that nomads might be happier but permanent settlements allows for more growth and development. If you left nomads alone for a million years they wouldn't make any changes to their lifestyle, they wouldn't create great monuments or works of art and they wouldn't invent and push human ingenuity to its limits.
>>591958 Also being able to adapt to new environments allows the species to evolve whereas it stagnates in cities.
Who fares better between the city dweller and semi-nomadic person in a natural disaster? The Semi nomadic person would find it easier to migrate to a new area and assimilate the environment better than the city dweller.
The entirety of Earth's 7+ billion humans could live in Texas and each of them would be able to have a home with a lawn. Admittedly, it wouldn't look pretty, but the world is not overpopulated. People in the 50s and 60s predicted mass famines in the 80s and 90s, and obesity became the largest growing health problem instead.
>>592029 >More or less yeah but atleast they would survive longer ofcourse life would be shittier in general but the human race would not go extinct for a longer time. Unless the city dwellers manage to master space travel, that is. Just managing to learn the basics of asteroid mining would leave us with an immense abundance of a throng of metals and other resources.
>>592024 What the fuck, so everyone has to be producing their own food or we're overpopulated? You do realize that means everyone has to be farmers and we hardly get any cultural, technological, or any other advancements, right? Because if that's not the case, then we're overpopulated and need to be aware that random events might come by to cull the herd or something?
This is such a stupid line of thinking.
>>592029 They're getting more efficient, and nuclear's already damn efficient.
>not go extinct for a longer time
Nigger I think when the sun expands and engulfs Earth it won't matter how high our score was in the "Eco-friendly" department.
>>592035 Dude you're acting as if environmental pollution is so insignificant that it won't affect us because it will especially if we keep producing higher quantities of it including nuclear waste. Already water is becoming more scarce in the world as is agricultural land decreasing due to desert formation in places like southern europe.
>>592035 >What the fuck, so everyone has to be producing their own food or we're overpopulated? You do realize that means everyone has to be farmers and we hardly get any cultural, technological, or any other advancements, right? Because if that's not the case, then we're overpopulated and need to be aware that random events might come by to cull the herd or something? >This is such a stupid line of thinking. I know someone who liked to jog, they just happened to live in London, to get to the point, they got carbon poisoning from gulping deep breathes of polluted air. They were literally hospitalized by it.
Cities are unhealthy places, I will never live in one of those filthy abominations.
Diesel from cars is poisoning every city, the manufacturers all lie about the emissions, recent studies have shown that busy city streets are above safe levels for carbon monoxide and related petro chemicals.
The world is filled with absolute poison, and yes I would rather live in a more nomadic world with less people.
>>592049 That is true, but if the point is to ditch technology, why do you specifically need to be nomadic? Because nomads are kind of "locked" into a system that doesn't allow technological progress?
If your nomads are like the Mongols who loved technology this disproves that point, you might actually accomplish the opposite with a society that invests an enormous amount of resources into technology to maintain their nomadic lifestyle as opposed to our decadent hedonistic culture. I'm not sure what leg your point stands on.
You do realize that as lack of conservation becomes a problem, conservation efforts will increase, right? You do realize that the vast majority of people are much more intelligent than you in organizing their own priorities, right?
We invented recycling and are refining recycling processes, and we are continuing to improve technologically and will use that to our advantage. We don't live in the age of coal-burning factories anymore, and have gone through several advancements that have made our industries cleaner. Also, we're not all horrible totalitarian bureaucracies like China that don't give a shit about human beans. You're almost demanding instant improvement whereas history has shown improvement is a gradual process.
>>592102 I think you confuse me with someone else. I'm not promoting any nomadic lifestyle, I said that Samarkand (and by extension, any Mongol use of technology) isn't a valid point so any tech they appropriated wasn't nomadic in origin. If there sedentary people to begin with then no nomads will be able to utilize their technology.
>>592112 Already conservation efforts are increasing but they aren't enough especially with countries like china and india industrilaizing at such a fast rate let alone tge already industrialised countries fucling shit up as they do besides its not like many countries aside from maybe germany are trying to actually limit their impacts on the environment. Personally I blame the idea of infinite economical growth .
>>586285 Nomads had an exceptional impact on history despite utilizing a fraction of the energy of sedentary agricultural civilizations. This is due to nomadic skills inherently having more military application, horse riding most notably. A agricultural civilization could theoretically have a larger and better trained military than any group of nomads could muster, but that takes foresight and humans don't always have that. Spend a little too much on scholarly pursuits instead of defense and you run the risk of being conquered should the nomadic tribes on your border unite.
>>592065 That's exactly why advancement was halted during the middle ages. Food production was low and everyone had to work their ass off just to survive. Once agriculture improved, so did science, art and culture.
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