Eva Peron

>>584719
>Wasn't Peron a fascist?
Why would this make his wife unloved? Many people in the 20th century liked governments and leaders who were fascist.

Maybe your problem with understanding is your sitting room morality that is incapable of historical empathy?

>>584724
I'm curious from a normative perspective, that is that fascist governments are usually later on despised.

>>584729
Which is why contemporary fascist governments exist in areas which had previous fascist governments (25 year rule).

Which is why Tujman and Milosevic were so detested in their own polities based on the hatred for ustashe and cetniks.

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I think your norm is shit.

>>584743

Fair enough, no need to be so hostile though.

>>584753
Every day we have 4 pages of normative shit, exactly like yours, posted on /his/. "Why doesn't reality conform to my norm?" Because you're a fucking cretin is why. History does not project its norms onto the past, it tells the past as it essentially was. We might talk about their norms, but we do not impose our own.

Peron was loved because she was very clever at situating herself as a mother to the nation, was of average beauty, and didn't fuck up her PR campaigns. She occupied a position where populism could focus on her as an object of adoration.

>>584719

>Wasn't Peron a fascist?

My grandma would say Peron had a picture of Mussolini and Marx in his office. Which one he'd display depended on who he was talking to at the time.

Eva is loved because the Perons stole from Argentina but she at least gave some of the money to the poor

>>584768
Actually, you utter pretentious turd, I was asking for more information on Eva Peron. I don't know much about her, and as someone who enjoys learning about history, I figured I would ask /his/ rather than dick around until university opens up and get out some shitty biased biography on her.

>>584775

Thank you for answering my question in a pleasant and useful way.

>>584719
Populists are popular for a reason. they give the people what they want in the short term despite it not being in their best interests. Peronism/populism is a cancer that ruined Argentina.
T. Lived in Argentina

>>584788
True. I've seen some stuff about how she basically acted like she was the Virgin Mary, obviously an important figure in South America.

>>584782
No, you thought you'd shit your norms on /his/.

You are exactly as reprehensible as the racists, fascists, Austrians and Stalinists who come here to shit their norms over /his/ for exactly the same reason.

>>584793
Yeah, they loved her because she gave them food and a little money instead of helping build a better future for their country. The theme of Argentina/Latin America of the last 100 years. At one point in the twenties or thirties Argentina was the Sixth largest economy in the world, at one point the gdp was half of the gdp of all of south America including brasil and the gdp per capita was about 80% of what it was in the USA which is unheard of for LatAm. this was in the 1900's-1940's, then Peron came and ruined everything and American interventionism didnt help much either.

>>584719

Argentina was a rich country in the first part of the 20th century, it was a huge beef exporter but didn't have much industry, and wealth was very unevenly distributed. With the first and second world war they could no longer import from the us and europe the industrial products they needed so they had to start building a local industry, which created a lot of factory jobs.

Just before Peron came to power Argentina went through what is called the "Decada Infame" which were very conservative governments that didn't gave a shit about the workers.

But then Peron came to power, he was a populist and with the riches argentine exports created during the war started giving benefits to the working class buying their support. And then there's Evita, she was this beautiful young woman who was an illegitimate child and grew up in poverty so the working class identified with her a lot. A few very well done PR moves like her tour in Europe and the fact that she died so young created this aura about her that argentine working class has taken as a symbol since then.

>>584865
i love how the working class puts her as an example when she rose to power with he acting and beauty. it's like saying "yeah, every working class hero can become succesful... but only if you are bautiful and get cucked directly by the president"

Peron was hugely popular in Argentina (he was democratically elected by huge margins). Eva showed up at more or less the height of his popularity, was a hugely effective public speaker, fronted a bunch of charity and social-welfare initiative, etc., and died quite young. No fucking shit she's idealized.

>>584865
And this is a good example of why "the working class" are morons who shouldn't be trusted with the right to vote.

>>584719
Populist moron who ruined Argentina.

>>586186
he also was a de facto vicepresident who admired mussolini and invited nazis to live in the country

>>584743
>>584729
>>584724
>>584719
I'm a nigg... emm.. argie. Perón was not a fascist. He was closer to being a national socialist, in the economic sense of the word, and excluding racism and Anschluss ideals.

>>584788
>>584807
yes

>>584865
Although this guy is a dirty commie, he is right in positioning perón as a dialectic antithesis to what came before.

>>587349
What do you think of Macri? Personally, I'm happy that the choripanners lost

>>587349
>Perón was not a fascist. He was closer to being a national socialist, in the economic sense of the word, and excluding racism and Anschluss ideals.
Read Griffin on fascism before you open your shit gob again.