>>582928 Metaphysical suicide, but the beginning of philosophical awakening.
Atheism is even a spiritual error committed by Christians in the beginning of their walk with God. You have to reject God before God reaches down and says, "You have rejected Me, but I know you and I love you regardless." This initial rejection of God highlights the difference between our contempt for Him and His compassion for us. It is the internalization of your sin and your hatred for God. Then, when the Sword of the Spirit, the Word of God, stabs you in the chest you feel every bit of it.
>>582970 I was reading about MLKJ the other day and when he was younger didn't believe in Jesus and grew up to be a Baptist minister.
I guess a lot of us deny the possibility of God, especially when atheists use the Bible to prove their point and there is so much more out there they don't ever look at. Just a matter of "too late" you know. Your right metaphysical makes more sense
Everyone plays with concepts constantly. That's how your brain works, you fucking retard.
And I don't only accept atheist philosophy as objective, I just don't waste my time on snake oil horseshit where I'm told I've got problems I don't really have, and conveniently, only a priest can solve them for a small fee
Not only that, it's suicide on a cultural scale, and of course -- it goes without saying -- a spiritual one.
It's one of the reasons Europe is getting so fucked up by Islam. Secular humanism is just hedonism with prettier clothes. Relativism is stagnation.
I also blame the above migration on the current naivete of my brothers, the Catholics and even other denominations, on being complicit in importing these backward fucks on the mistaken idea that they have stopped being our enemy somehow, and that they don't seek to undermine the society beneath us.
>>583034 >Secular humanism and moral relativism >kek
Right, really fancy ways to say atheism but it is true that we all have subjective perspectives, there is also a absolute perspective and goal. Hedonism only when your society is sense indulgent and only cares for material things.
Because even "religious" imperialism has a huge contradiction in it too..
Actual religious values could help spread some love.
>>583228 Scripture is aliveness but to say that it thinks for you is ridiculous.
You take the teachings and use them to help you build a relationship to God and seeing the divine in all things, people, and just notice the difference.
>>583238 To an extent "religion" is always described in stereotypes and sometimes is practiced that way but if you look for it chances are you'll find the right place to observe the religious ceremony.
>>583265 >To an extent "religion" is always described in stereotypes and sometimes is practiced that way but if you look for it chances are you'll find the right place to observe the religious ceremony.
Vague and meaningless.
This is essentially saying I can't justify any particular sect or their mutually exclusive contrary trurth claims, while vaguely implying if you find the right sect then everything will be explained.
>>583200 What are you talking about? The Nazi party actively persecuted the Catholic church, shut down all Catholic social organisations (and basically all non-Nazi ones), killed thousands of priests, etc.
The Catholic church was explicitly opposed to Nazism.
Protestant churches that didn't go along with the Nazis also got shit on.
I would instantly subscribe to any religion that seemed to have reasonable morals, goals and views and didn't have so much fucking insane shit that I'm supposed to believe.
Like any of the impossible stuff Jesus supposedly did, or Angels, and all that that basically every religion has.
Sure if it's deliberate stories that have some kind of moral, lesson or a point behind the story but they're seemingly never presented as that. They are literally presented as something you're supposed to believe.
>>583469 The Nazis did persecute the Catholic Church to an extent, but no more than they did any other non-nazi organization. they forced all recreational and youth organizations to shut down or get under the Nazi banner. And the Catholic church was far from anti-Nazi, the Vatican supported the Nazis since they were fighting against the Soviets
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