>And then it got worse.
>We were so close. And then the Brits ruined everything.
>inbred, but at least we our military beat all those defenseless niggers over 100 years ago! Rule Britannia!
WHAT IS THIS
SOME SOME FINNA
*grabs a 40 of mead and pours some out for the dead homies
AYYEEE YOU BE SAYIN
*Smacks lips profusely
THIS IS SOME FINNA
*drinks a skine of urine and magic mushrooms
THIS PEOPLE WE CAN MURDER?
Yeah, they also are anally ravaged about Russians for other reasons, and act like the nation-state equivalent of perennial children when they ignore every other neighbor who they invaded at one point or another.
Poland was built on blaming Niemcy for everything under the sun.
Stop doing that thing I was doing ten minutes ago!
>Stop conquering fellow Christians
>Stop being centralized
>Stop being feudal
>Stop being monarchial
>Stop being republican
>Stop being pirates
>Stop invading your neighbors over Alsace
The only thing the French have ever been consistent on is that they don't like people picking on Poland.
>talking about Pollacks invading their neighbors
>shifts goalposts and brings up atrocities as if that explains everything
lel... nice reading comprehension.
Poles build an entire modern national character around German/Russian occupation and adopt a persecution complex over Germanization, while ignoring all the times they engaged in Polonization when occupying others.
btw the eternal Polish butthurt didn't begin in WW2, it began from its very inception, another point you glossed over.
I have one:
>Religion no longer a big deal
>"uh, didn't thought shit could get better so fast!"
Can you guys guess it?
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So, let me try to see your point starting with "they ignore every other neighbor who they invaded at one point or another" which seems like a false equivalence. Correct me if I'm wrong but Poland was on the receiving end the majority of the time, yes? If you include history from before the katyn massacre that someone else brought up then you're still not convincing me that the current level of butthurt is unjustified. If you had a racist neighbor that treated your kids like barbarians and later tried to kill them a couple times, you wouldn't turn the other cheek and ignore what happened.
>which seems like a false equivalence
In your opinion.
>Correct me if I'm wrong but Poland was on the receiving end the majority of the time, yes?
Actually, not really. Prior to the 20th century, there was one period where they were occupied by the Russians/Germans/Austro-Hungarians, that aside, there was such a thing as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or Polish kingdoms that existed before it.
Before Germany existed and before the ebin ebil Russians were a serious enough threat, they were the big kids on the block in Eastern Europe, and certainly were far from shy of attacking many of their neighbors, demonizing them in endless cultural hymns and songs, and then some. The idea that this is all one-sided is a modern revision which came into existence after two world wars.
>If you include history from before the katyn massacre that someone else brought up then you're still not convincing me that the current level of butthurt is unjustified.
I wasn't speaking about Katyn, or even the 20th century.
As I already mentioned before, Poland isn't a nation state built on the eternal victimhood idea, its own occupation by the aforementioned came after centuries of it attacking everyone surrounding it, not to mention its conveniently ignored when they engage in Polonization, land grabbing, even ethnic cleansing. Only a nationalist or retard ignores this
>If you had a racist neighbor that treated your kids like barbarians and later tried to kill them a couple times, you wouldn't turn the other cheek and ignore what happened.
Black-and-white views of history... gee, where do I begin on this one?
Any serious, non-tribal understanding of the history of Central and Eastern Europe wouldn't even characterize the relationship of Poland with its neighbors in this way, not to mention plays on the idea that, yet again, they were always victims and never perpetrators of the imperial mindsets they once themselves employed at any point prior to the 18th century.
Just stop, lithuanian. Learn some history. If Poles were ever butthurt about some nation, it would be the Russians. Germans weren't considered the greatest enemy until WW2. Second of all, you can't speak about 'modern' Polish identity, because Polish identity were continued through the ages without an interruption. If anyone's butthurt, it's you.
>Germans weren't considered the greatest enemy until WW2.
Yeah, any anti-German folklores, poetry, or songs by Poles before the 19th century just don't exist, because you say so.
>Just stop, lithuanian
My apologies, my Romanian shitposting friend.
>"We are the world greatest and only superpower!"
>"Ewww, you mean we actually have to go out and do things?"
17th century poet who authored a work which portrayed Germans as bumbling fools, cowards, or a people who should only be met with violence.
Though like any example I could list, going back to any point will be rationalized or explained away somehow, overlooking that said bigotry did exist in Polish culture going back to its very founding.
The Jews invented the Bagel to make more shekels.
Instead of clipping coins and then selling the accumulated gold/silver, the Jews began clipping their bread so they could sell half the bread for the price of a whole bun.
>Paul Wexler claims that modern Hebrew is not a Semitic language at all, but a dialect of "Judaeo-Sorbian". He argues that the underlying structure of the language is Slavic, but "re-lexified" to absorb much of the vocabulary and inflectional system of Hebrew in much the same way as a creole. This view forms part of a larger complex of theories, such as the theory that Ashkenazi Jews are predominantly descended from Slavic and Turkic tribes rather than from the ancient Israelites.
I didn't read his book so I don't know what he's saying. But outside of genealogy and history I fail to see how it fits. Sure, modern Hebrew has a lot of Slav vocabulary, but it doesn't mean anything; we also use Arabic, German and English word constantly. The grammar needless to say is entirely Semitic.
>But outside of genealogy and history I fail to see how it fits
Hebrew is a modern language, it is literally the same as a bunch of Poles moving to Italy and then starting to speak Latin, claiming to be the original Romans.
But Latin is not a modern language. And a bunch of Poles speaking in Latin won't make it Polish or a Poloid language. If you want to prove something like this you have to base it on something other than the identity of the speakers.
>t. Alberto Barbosa
>OOGA BOOGA, WHERE DA GOLD AT
You're so asspained you can't even provide examples. Begging the question isn't gonna prove that Poland was ISIS with infinite propaganda.
I don't give a fuck if a country considers itself on the victim side after dealing with a couple genocidal close calls from insane world wars. Plus insane invasions from Swedes, Mongols, Ottomans, Teutonic knights/prussians, Russians, Austro-Hungary, Cossacks, and whatever other shit.
Nice pretentious waffling.
Also you basically just admitted your understanding is purely tribalistic, as if every side they warred with was the problem causer. They dindu nuffin.
Ever heard of the Polish occupation of Czech, Lithuanian, or Ukrainian territory in the Interwar period? Of course you haven't, because you're a fucking retard.
I remain unconvinced that polaks were commiting more atrocities throughout history and had infinite propaganda against germans for eons and shouldn't have butthurt. You've proven that you can't back up your points and only want to talk shit about a people that aren't known for genocide and/or attempted genocide for over a thousand years.
Apply yourself next time.
He was a minor poet. If you really had good knowledge about Poland, you could give much better examples (story about princess Wanda who preferred to die than marry a German, it's well-known in Poland). Anyway, I would still argue that Germany is our archenemy. Maybe if you recognize Teutonic Order as Germans, then yes, we hated them so much. But from around 18th century it's definitely Russia, and it's true that I'm a little bit asspained about communism.
This land is your land?
This land is my land.
>goal post shift back again to atrocities
>when we are talking about invasions and imperialism including all of their neighbors more broadly
You're unable to be convinced of anything to the contrary because you willfully misread my posts and set the parameters of the argument into territory that wasn't implied, while routinely failing to acknowledge that Poles are far from being eternal victims themselves. You even adopted said position in a prior post when you referred to Polish history in this way, proving my point.
>Apply yourself next time.
Take your own advice, illiterate retard.
>you're Lithuanian if you disagree
>denying Poles are butthurt in their history/national culture about the Germans, at least not until WW2, it was only the Russians
>ask me to list one German example, maintaining said cultural examples of anti-German sentiment never happened
>one example is provided, by a figure who isn't just a poet, but a Polish historian
>switch position and claim they are your archenemy now in complete contradiction to the prior discussion
>provides another example thus proving my point earlier about said anti-German sentiment
In other words, you react emotionally to the post, flip-flop, and then bizarrely turn around and say you agree with me anyway.
>ruining Europe since 410 AD
>the buffer zone between Russia and Germany
>trust us, we are totally civilized western country
>the poor man's middle east
>We made our generals more powerful to defeat the nomadic horse riders in the north; Whoops, we got overthrown by a powerful general
>We took away power from the generals; Whoops, we got overthrown by nomadic horse riders from the north.