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Why was the French Revolution so volatile and bloody?
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>>577774
Probably because it was the biggest shift in ideological societal order ever
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Just like the french themselves
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>>577774
It was a spectacular display of republican barbarism. Nothing out of the ordinary.
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>>577774
because they didn't believe in the power of friendship
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>>577774
Because chaos reigns.

Also the shifting structure of political alliances due to a myriad of causes, from war and civil war to hyperinflation and general fuckery.
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>>577774
Because it tried to actually implement the absolute Idea of republicanism, liberté, egalité, fraternité.
It tried to forcefully apply an Universal Idea, and that was a recipe for the Terror
Same reason why Marxism always ends up into shitty centralized dictatorships
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>>578129
>French revolution puts the bourgeoisie into power ushering in the historical epoch of world capitalism.

>Gets brought up to bash socialist revolution.
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>>577774

They decided to declare war.
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>french Revolution was an unvarying event : the thread

every fucking time
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>>577774
If you're talking about the terror, they saw it as necessary to safeguard the revolution against outside invasion and internal overthrow.

The war of the first coalition saw about seven countries try to smash the revolutionary government, the Brunswick manifesto basically stated that if the king was harmed then the French people would be utterly destroyed.

Internally there were a series of royalist plots to overthrow the various republican governments as well as armed counterrevolutions in the Vendée and other peasant towns.

The violence of the Terror was a direct response to the violence of reaction.
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>>578847
>The violence of the Terror was a direct response to the violence of reaction.

At first yes, you're not so wrong. But at the end la Grande Terreur was just an indefensible policy. A proto-totalitarian deviance of the state of emergency led by absolute madmen as Fouquier-Tinville or Carrier
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>be 13
>I admire Robespierre so much
>I know all his quotes
>All evenings I pray to Robespierre
>I thank him for the Republic that we've been given, by our Creator
>"Robespierre is love, Robespierre is the Revolution", I say
>My father gets mad and calls me a faggot
>He's jealous of my devotion to the Terror
>He slaps me and sends me to my room
>I cry because it hurts
>I lie on my bed
>A warmth is moving towards me
>I feel something touch me
>It's Maximilien Marie Isidore de Robespierre
>I am so happy
>He whispers in to ear, "it's time for Terror"
>He makes me lie down on the bed
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass cheeks for the Revolution
>He penetrates me with his incorruptible dick
>It hurts, but I do it for la Republique
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>He pushes farther
>I want to please Maximilien
>He roars "Despotism!" while he fills me with his fraternity
>My dad walks in
>Maximilien looks him in the eye and says "The Revolution is the war of liberty against its enemies."
>He leaves through my window
>Maximilien Robespierre is life, Maximilien Robespierre is the Revolution
>Next morning, I find my dad decapitated
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>>578869
Except a lot of the time it wasn't those "madmen" leading the terror - it was the active intervention of the sans culottes that pushed it forwards and deepened the radicalism.

As for if it was indefensible or not: well it's a little bit irrelevant because it kind of worked. The french revolution was a success - it brought the bourgeoisie to power, introduced capitalist property relations, and was the catalyst that would eventually bring the rest of western Europe out of feudalism.
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>>578939
are you me?
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Because France was on her period at the time.
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>>578941
England was more democratic and more free long before the French revolution. Why you got to make such a fuss frenchies?
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>>580986
>enclosures never happened
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>>580986
dickens pls
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>>580986
nobody cares about britbongistan
the french rev. had the most influence on europe
and on america aswell
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Friendly reminder that it took around 80 years and a huge military debacle for a stable democratic republic to finally emerge in France.
This is what happens when you demolish overnight a social and political traditional order that stood for centuries and replace it with a bunch of underdeveloped concepts and vague slogans about liberty and equality. People are still coming to terms about wtf this whole democracy and popular representation stuff actually means (and what it doesn't mean). The Republic, the Empire, the various Restoration monarchies, and the Second Empire all tried to introduce their own various interpretations of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity, that happened to diverge quite widely in practice.
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>>581051
90 years*
Sorry, brainfart
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>>581051
friendly reminder foreign powers invading the free ppl of france and trying to restore the outdated oppressive noble buttlicking system is what caused 90years of wars and struggle

death to nobility and their bootlickers
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>>581057
Truth as it may be, decapitating the Austrian princess and sticking her head on a pike for peasants to throw cow shit on probably didn't help.
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>>581062
>decapitating the Austrian princess and sticking her head on a pike for peasants to throw cow shit on

things that never happened
how odd on a history board
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>>581072
Sorry I couldn't find an "after" pic.
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>>577800
>volatile and bloody
>Just like the french themselves
wut

>>578847
>armed counterrevolutions
And the fatal question : armed by who ?
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>>581090
>armed by who ?
Pretty much every peasant owned a gun.
Also, mobs often attacked the recruiting sergeants and small units in rural areas such as Vendée and took their weapons.

They were also helped and financed by foreign monarchies.
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>>581014

The American Revolution had been over for six years by the time the Bastille was stormed, and the US was wary of French radicalism (except for the Jeffersonians, but they didn't achieve much of note)
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>>581304
>The American Revolution had been over for six years by the time the Bastille was stormed
Jacksonian democracy.
The civil war.
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>be French
>actually overthrow a government without outside help

feels good
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the french public were barbarously feral and despairing, while the french aristocracy was especially effete, apathetic, and cruel

with that combination you're not going to end with sunshine and lolly-pops
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>>582036

>attack our shipping
>we're on the list of belligerents opposing you in your glorious revolution-doohickey
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>>581309

Jacksonians were strongly opposed to the centralized government that the revolutionaries championed. They also weren't too fond of the urban merchants the French loved, and thought those dang ol Indians were hoarding land rather than the Church.

I'll assume you mean abolitionism when you mention the Civil War, but I'll point out that American abolitionism was religious and came at the issue from a completely different perspective than the French had.
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>>582036
>freemasons
>jews
>not outside helps
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>>582115
All I was suggesting is that the US revolution had not ended six years prior to the Bastille falling.
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