>>575871 in about 600 BC, Plato wrote that Atlantis thrived 9000 years prior. ~9600 BC was the end of the last Ice Age... The Sphinx is further evidence of sophistication wayyyyyyy back around the time of Gobekli Tepe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z4yt3vH_E
I like the sudden crustal displacement theory as described in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Yp0dCqfpg. Ie atlantis was on antarctica, which was a couple thousand miles north until about 12000 years ago. Pseudoscience probably, but entertaining
>>575954 There's no basis for believing that Plato himself believed in the historicity of Atlantis, any more than he believed in the historicity of Zeus. He was using the story of Atlantis as a prop in a larger philosophical discussion.
>>575977 Pretty much this. Even the way Plato set the story up makes it obvious the story isn't meant to be taken literally (and very people did until the nineteenth century). Two people are having a political discussion, and then one of them happens to remember a story he heard from someone who heard it from people who heard it from someone else but forgot who. And the story relates perfectly to the discussion at hand, and has nice morals about what kinds of governments fail.
>>575891 >hurr if multiple people decide to build pointy temples, it's because they were connected by alliums
>>576044 >hurr anyone who dug up dinosaur bones had any vague mythical beast that was reptilian were connected by aliums >hurr if multiple people have comparable spiritual traditions they were connected by aliums >hurr if multiple places were successful they were connected by alliums
Atlantis was either an older myth or one made up by Plato on the spot to serve a metaphorical purpose. He dropped the story in the middle of a longer dialectic about the dangers of pride and greed. It was never, ever intended to be part of his history discussions, and was never considered anything other than an extended metaphor until retarded spiritualists started mining "ancient texts" to fuel their new age bullshit in the industrial era.
my opinion is that humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years so its higly unlikely what we call civilisation just somehow sprung up some 4000 years ago for no apparent reason that being said theres no need to exagerate things the farther back in time the more important even a tiny populated island, a few proto-urban centres or a trade route here and there become, and a ruler might be considered massively wealthy if he has 50+ cows or something, which then turns into entire legendary stories about huge island empires with millions of people and unbelievable wealth and incredible technology and arcane knowledge and occult powers and aliens and iterdimensionablaghalrbla bla bal bla
so yeah, people have been around for a while now, some things shouldnt suprise us
Only %1 of the seafloor has been explored. Given that we know people were building megalithic stone structures around the end of the last ice age, Atlantis was probably just a trading city-state somewhere in the med. that was built on low-lying land that would have been an island then but was swamped with rising sea levels. Nothing super spectacular but probably some stone-structures at the very least. Its silly to think that there wasn't anything like this though, I mean, during the last ice age most of the land currently underwater between the italian peninsula and the balkans was above water. In that area alone there must have been a dozen small villages that were eventually submerged. If underwater sea explortion of the med. and nearby oceans becomes a big thing in the future they will probably find multiple ruins of stone structures underwater, I believe they have found several already. I think stuff like the Piri Reis map suggets the possibility that Graham Hancock may be right about some things but the two possibilities are not mutally exclusive. There may have been a relatively advanced for their time civilization as advanced as Egypt in the 12,000-9,000 BC range that got wiped out but that dosn't mean the tale of Atlantis wasn't just based on a fishing/trading hub with stone/brick buildings that got submerged.
take a group of dumb people, give them a shitload of dirt and tell them to build a tower 10m tall. they will make a pyramid, its easy. when you put thing over and start to crumble, simply enlarge the base until it stops crumblin, that way you make easy high as you want buildings, without any architecture knowledge. that's why there are pyramids all over the world, it's the easiest way to make a tall building
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