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>>569416
>/x/ isn't Stirner
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>>569416
Schopenhauer fits much more to /r9k/
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>>569416
/r9k/ is much too self-hating to be Nietzsche, Schopenhauer is their man.
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>>569416
>no Sun Tzu for /k/
I am disappoint.
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>>569429
>>569431
Schoppy was too much of a Chad and delivered bantz.
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>>569434
>/k/
>Not Ted Kaczynski
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>>569434
>military theorist
>philosopher
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Have u done it
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>>569437
In terms of lifestyle Nietzsche is the robot-king. But in terms of philosophy Schopenhauer is pretty /r9k/ whereas Nietzsche would have had no time for them.

All in all you need to seperate the philosophy from the man.
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>>569437
+how much both Schopenhauer and /int/ obsess over genetic whatever
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>>569416
>Evola for /pol/
They wish. They deserve some half-educated populist moron like Rosenberg.
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Nobody even talks about Marx on /lit/
I doubt many even know who Evola is on /pol/
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Well /g/ is obviously RMS, if you consider him a philosopher.
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>>569416
/b/ should be Diogenes, switch /int/ and /r9k/, is Reddit Žižec? If so that's accurate.
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>>569423
90% of /x/ wouldn't know who that is. Robert Anton Wilson would actually fit better than Crowley, though.
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>>569521

>getting this triggered at a meme
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>>569604
>I doubt many even know who Evola is on /pol/

Have you ever actually been there? Because they suck his dick constantly
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>>569456
Didn't Nietzsche love to party?
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>>569681
Which he is.
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>>570191
Nietzsche loved to fuck bitches, dance and blaze it.

However he was also a gigantic autist so the only bitches he fucked he paid for, and he did all his partying alone.
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>>569416
Yes. /his/ makes up bold statements without the backing of evidence.

We're Herodotus alright.
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>>570188
I've been there quite a few times -- it's mostly shitposting and trump posting


>>570265
You haven't even read Herodotus, shut the fuck up
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>>570298
>The Persian army had like 60 bajillion dudes in it.
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>>569416
>marx
>/lit/
nope
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>>570351
I disagree with this one as well. I don't know what it would be though.
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>>569439
This
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N-names pls...
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>>570850
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>>570540
Probably Kierkegaard.

/lit/ loves Kierkegaard.
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>>570850
From top-left, to bottom-right.

>Julius Evola
>Alastair Crowley
>Herodotus
>Diogenes
>Nietzsche
>Max Stirner
>Schopenhauer
>Karl Marx
>Rene Descartes
>Slavoj Zizek
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>>570045
>žižec, with a c

we've come full circle it seems
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>>570865
That's Socrates, not Herodotus.
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>>570865
>>570876
T-thanks...
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>>570876
So it is, my bad.
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Add:
>Adam Smith - /biz/
>Camus - either /soc/ or /fit/
>Betrtrand Russell - /sci/
Change:
>Nietzsche - /v/
>Schopenhauer - /r9k/
>??? - /int/
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>>570921
>>Camus - either /soc/ or /fit/

theres only one philosopher for /fit/
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Poor evola doesn't deserve to be associated with /pol/.
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>>570937
>posting the wrong pic
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>>569416
> /pol/ not Heidigger
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>>569416
/lit/ would be Dostoyevsky not fucking Memerl Memex
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>>570939
You're right.

His particular insane shitposting deserves something much worse.
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>>569416

which board is the most NEET friendly? Thats what Marx should be since hes the king of NEETs
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Anyone else find it sad that Descartes, with all of his achievements, has been reduced to a dick joke?
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>>570965
/r9k/.

However if communism were ever to actually happen /r9k/'s population would starve to death.
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>>570973

no, its pretty funny.

>spend your entire life busting your ass to be a great whatever
>finally achieve it
>people study you for generations
>finally, people just use you for a dick joke from some porn website
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>>570973
Becoming a meme is no great shame.
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>>569416
Descartes is /d/
Give her a dick
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>>570876
Anon, he was told it was Herodotus in his travels
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>>569521
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>>570973

>dualism
>achievement
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>>569416
is s4s that one greek dude who jizzed in public places all the time?
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>>569441
They frequently overlap.

But Machievelli is WAAAAAY more into /k/'s thinking.
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>>571178
/d/ gravely misunderstands the meaning of give her the dick.
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>>571429
Whilst Machiavelli certainly said a lot of things /k/ would agree with. The man himself, and even his works, don't have much to do with the /k/ lifestyle.
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>>571438
He literally formed a militia of armed citizens, when conventional wisdom was in favor of a disarmed populace.
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>>571449
Yeah and he also got rekt by the Medici's so that should tell you what all good an armed populace is.
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>>571458
And instead, he went off and wrote two books about how how cool Florence and their republican militia was.

Machievelli's philosophy is just 16th century Rhodesia wanking. If the Florentine militia wore shorts, it would be a perfect fit.
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>>571434

I spit my dreenk
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>>571476

Literally this. Machiavelli was a militia fetishist even though when he was on Florence' Council of War and actually got the chance to implement his ideas his citizen militia got absolutely spanked by the Spanish army.

People think he was some sort of visionary pragmatist when he was just wilfully disregarding his own life experience in favour of what he thought was more "virtuous".

If he was really a scheming pragmatist he would have seen which way the wind was blowing, backed the Medicis, and might not have gotten tortured and fired for his trouble.
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>>569416
>Zizek
>Reddit
>Implying most of them understand shit about Hegel
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>>569416
Well, he's more of a political and juridic scientist but I think Carl Schmitt should be the one on /pol/.
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>>570921
>Betrtrand Russell - /sci/
A challenger appears
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50/50, it either is or is not
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>>569416

>crowley

>a philosopher
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>>573065

Lol no

/sci/ is Hawking
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>>570316
He still had evidence, sources aren't always reliable.
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/x/ - Hermes Trismigistus
/pol/ - Donald Trump
/his/ - Tacitus
[s4s] - Petronius
/r9k/ - Elliott Rodger
/b/ - De Sade
/int/ - Voltaire
/lit/ - Keirkegaard
Reddit - Neil Degrease Tyrone
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>>573142
Didn't Hawking claim that philosophy was dead?
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>>569416
This whole fucking thing belongs on Reddit
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>>570188
I browse it frequently and I can't remember an instance of this guy
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Who would be /mu/?
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>>569416
Why is Descartes /s/
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>>573449
Exactly.
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>>573065
Ian Curtis was a philosopher?
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>>570188
>>570298
>>573487

Evola hasn't been popular on /pol/ since the exodus to 2*4chan.

Honestly one of the worst parts of that exodus was that all the good traditionalists and reactionaries left, leaving /pol/ to become the shit heap it is today.
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>>573517
>Who would be /mu/?
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>>573517
Nietzsche to be honest.
>wrote a book about music genres that analyzes them in a level of verbal masturbation that would make p4k blush
>liked the ancient version of harsh noise (dythrambus)
>claimed the early shit (Aeschyles) was better and the later (Sophocles) sold out
>listened to Wagner before it was cool and ditched him went he went mainstream
>talked tons of shit in general
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>>573573
>Honestly one of the worst parts of that exodus was that all the good traditionalists and reactionaries left, leaving /pol/ to become the shit heap it is today.
That was the plan from the start. Turn /pol/ into a mongrel between between /int/ and /s4s/
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>>573517
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>>573573
Some of us are still here.
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>>569416
Can't agree with Marx and Nietzsche

Aside from that yea it's pretty accurate
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>>573573
Seriously, I miss the mix of philosophies. Now it's just the most extreme far right/alt right types on the other chan, and base elements of right populism mixed with shitposting on 4chan. /his/ is all that's left here.
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>>573188
>/b/ - De Sade
no, he's /hc/
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>>573674
>/his/ is all that's left here.

Honestly this board gives me hope. It reminds me of the old, good /pol/ a lot sometimes.

I like hanging out here.
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>>569416
Reddit should be Stirner
[s4s] should be Zizek
Diogenes should be /b/
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>>573154
Would anyone rather we be Thucydides instead?
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>>570965
Why? He worked most of his life as a journalist. None of his philosophies favoured people who willingly did nothing with their lives and lived off the state.
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>>573573
Honestly there was never a worse time to be on /pol/ than the summer of 2014 when the Iron Pill craze was in full swing and everyone starting being a reactionary to be hip.

It was like if no one on /his/ had ever read Schopenhauer but suddenly out of nowhere Idealism became the hottest shit and everyone started claiming to love Schopenhauer. The traditionalist phase was an absolute shitshow.
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>>569416
>/his/ is socrates and not herodotus
>/pol/ is evola instead of literally hitler
evola is /k/ desu
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>>576039
>/k/
I meant /fit/
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>>573831
Reddit is much too haunted to be Stirner.
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>>575499
>Thucydides
>I'M ANGRY, ANGRY ABOUT CLEON
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>>576035
These are the same 'traditionalists' that will tell you that Nationalism is compatible with traditionalism.
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>>569416
Schopie is /r9k/
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>>576209
You don't even know what nationalism is, I'm guessing you're American?
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>>569441
he preaches pure pragmatism, which counts as philosophy, could be likened to utilitarianism
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>>569604
there are a lot of socialists on lit
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>>569416
/hc/ - Vatsyayana
/r9k/ - Schopenhauer
/his/ - either Plato or Confucius
/int/ - a Panslavist or some other nationalist philosopher
/tv/ - Carl Jung (meme magic)
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>>569416

What the fuck is Crowley doing? Is he pouting?
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Evola is just a philosopher /pol/ users namedrop as to not appear completely illiterate, as opposed to actually good fascists like Heidegger, Hegel and Zizek
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>>576604
>fascist
>Zizek
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>>573612
Let me guess, an upper middle class white man reviewing rap music as if its high art.
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>>576575
It's mainly apolitical -- people just think it's leftist as it's not a populist shithole like /pol/
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>>573578
Wholeheartedly agree.

Also I got triggered by equating Žižek with Reddit.
Sagan or maybe Dawkins is more reddit tier "philosopher".
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>>573573
>Honestly one of the worst parts of that exodus was that all the good traditionalists and reactionaries left, leaving /pol/ to become the shit heap it is today.
>implying they're not mostly back. Everytime I check 8gag, it's pretty much a wasteland, with /pol/ being only one kind of populated- And their /pol/ is far from some kind of a traditionalist heaven, but more like stormfront circlejerk.
I think the quality of /pol/ is more to do with new batch of memes for /pol/ to latch on.
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>>576486
>You don't even know what nationalism is
A modern political ideology.
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>>576639
>I think the quality of /pol/ is more to do with new batch of memes for /pol/ to latch on.
Nah, sad to say most of the posters are stupid mouth-breathers that can't take a joke.
At least old /pol/ could laugh at Israeli flag posting, now every-time Israel posts it's "FUCK OFF JEWS!!!!!"
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>>576658
Yep, thought so..
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>>572977
>implying Zizek understands shit about Hegel
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>>576721
Actually he does. He's just very good at hiding it behind the comedy.
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>>576639
>I think the quality of /pol/ is more to do with new batch of memes for /pol/ to latch on
Also they they steal all their menes from /int/
t. tourist from /int/
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>>569416
/tv/
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>>569416
Reddit fucking loves Bertrand Russel.
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>>576721
You're an idiot if you think he doesn't
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>>576607
>he fell for the "hegemonic critique makes me a leftist" meme
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>>570921
>Adam Smith
>/biz/
>Not Jean-Baptiste Colbert
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>>569416
very nice rlly
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>>576729
>>576779
>this is what zizek shills actually believe
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>>569416
I would argue that kafka, even thought wasnt a phillosopher is much more fit for /r9k/.
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>>569416
Nietzsche is /k/ as fuck. /r9k/ is a horrible fit for him.
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>>576749
>steal
>implying Aussie crossboarders don't spake them everywhere
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>>578958
Explain.
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>>576663
Honestly on /pol/ these days Jews get treated pretty well.

But god help you if you post with an Indian flag.
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>>578958
I've been trying to think of an appropriate fit for /k/ for ages.

I'm thinking Hunter Thompson or Maynard Keenan.
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>>579060
The Unabomber.

It's the only option.
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>>579049
>>579060
Think of the concept of the Ubermensch in the abstract. An ascendant being that has mastered his life, his environment and that has unfettered himself from the world at large. Weapons are the nearest fit for this analysis. A guarantor that, come what may, you can at least attempt to keep your independence. That someone will have to kill you or overcome lethal force in order to enslave you.

Taking this a step further with firearms in particular, they invert a situation. A 120 pound middle aged woman is now no longer subject to the threat of force posed by a 200 pound 20-something man. She now holds the balance of power based upon skill and discipline rather than physical might. In a broader sense, we can use the firearm as a symbol of civilization, holding the strong back from oppressing the weak.
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>>569416
/lit/ is on the Zizek meme train.
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>>576663
>>579055
Can confirm, Jews get bantz but will be listened to
All Indians are disregarded immediately and bombarded with shitting memes
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>>579108
>implying the strong shouldn't rule the weak
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>>579149
Nice try Schlomo. Now fuck off to Reddit.
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>>576021
>worked
>as a journalist

He was essentially a professional shitposter.
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>>576663
>old /pol/

Jesus fuck how new are you, /pol/ has had flags since like last year
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>>579162
>your country
>white
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>>579158
>implying whoever is ruling at the time isn't, by definition, strong, and whoever their subjects are aren't, by definition, weak
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>>579108
You're thinking of the Ubermensch as a very rugged, manly concept focused entirely around independence.

That isn't entirely true, there's much more to being an ubermensch than being independent. And even still the kind of independence being discussed here is very different to shooting down black helicopters when the government comes for your guns.

If I was going to assign Nietzsche to a board it would probably be /gif/. Because /gif/ is totally unhindered by concepts like prudishness or any such thing. And /gif/ has the creative drive to make hot as fuck webms to enrich the culture of the board. That creative spirit that /gif/ has, is something /k/ lacks.
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>>579170
>The weak haven't subverted all morality and enslaved the strong

Get a load of this, guy.
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>>579069
This, it HAS to be Unabomber. His shit is basically innawoods: the philosophy, not to mention he was making his own guns.
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>>579179
If the weak enslaved the strong, it follows logically the weak are the new strong and the strong are the new weak.
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>>579185
As Nietzsche rightly pointed out.
>As we all know, priests are the most evil enemies to have -- why should this be so? Because they are the most impotent. It is their impotence which makes their hate so violent and sinister, so cerebral and poisonous. The greatest haters in history -- but also the most intelligent haters -- have been priests. Beside the brilliance of priestly vengeance all other brilliance fades. Human history would be a dull and stupid thing without the intelligence furnished by its impotents. Let us begin with the most striking example. Whatever else has been done to damage the powerful and great of this earth seems trivial compared with what the Jews have done, that priestly people who succeeded in avenging themselves on their enemies and oppressors by radically inverting all their values, that is, by an act of the most spiritual vengeance. This was a strategy entirely appropriate to a priestly people in whom vindictiveness had gone most deeply underground. It was the Jew who, with frightening consistency, dared to invert the aristocratic value equations good/noble/powerful/beautiful/ happy/favored-of-the-gods and maintain, with the furious hatred of the underprivileged and impotent, that "only the poor, the powerless, are good; only the suffering, sick, and ugly, truly blessed. But you noble and mighty ones of the earth will be, to all eternity, the evil, the cruel, the avaricious, the godless, and thus the cursed and damned!" ... We know who has fallen heir to this Jewish inversion of values.... In reference to the grand and unspeakably disastrous initiative which the Jews have launched by this most radical of all declarations of war

The strong have been taught to hate their own strength, and the weak have been exalted above all others. This does not make it so that the strong are any less strong, it's just a testament to the all consuming power of venemous jealousy.
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>>579172

>And even still the kind of independence being discussed here is very different to shooting down black helicopters when the government comes for your guns.

Opinion discarded. I was thinking more along the lines of civil disturbance or the need to hunt food for yourself. Don't make assumptions based upon your own biases.

>If I was going to assign Nietzsche to a board it would probably be /gif/. Because /gif/ is totally unhindered by concepts like prudishness or any such thing. And /gif/ has the creative drive to make hot as fuck webms to enrich the culture of the board. That creative spirit that /gif/ has, is something /k/ lacks.
>Implying we're not

I'm on my laptop. Does anyone have the cap of the guy who used his Mosin-Nagant Bolt Handle as a butt plug?
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>>579215
>Opinion discarded. I was thinking more along the lines of civil disturbance or the need to hunt food for yourself. Don't make assumptions based upon your own biases.
I was joking, my friend. Black helicopter paranoia is just such a ubiquitous symbol of gun-culture I thought that would be clear.

Additionally, the independence of an Ubermensch isn't the same as self-sufficiency in literally harvesting your own food or some such. It's more an independence is total deprogramming from all the things society would condition you to believe, and a strength of will to reprogram your morals and values independently.
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>>579230
>I was joking, my friend. Black helicopter paranoia is just such a ubiquitous symbol of gun-culture I thought that would be clear.

Yeah, but it doesn't make you any less of a faggot.

>Additionally, the independence of an Ubermensch isn't the same as self-sufficiency in literally harvesting your own food or some such. It's more an independence is total deprogramming from all the things society would condition you to believe, and a strength of will to reprogram your morals and values independently.

The media endlessly repeats that we're horrible people. That we have no place in polite society for choosing to engage in an activity that hurts no one and we do it anyway.
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>>579243
>libfags libfag
>conservatives conservate
>everyone feels persecuted

And life continues as always.
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>>579249
Or you could refute that point. Y'know. If you feel like it.
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>>579243
>Yeah, but it doesn't make you any less of a faggot.
Sorry if I offended you then.

>The media endlessly repeats that we're horrible people. That we have no place in polite society for choosing to engage in an activity that hurts no one and we do it anyway.
Some of the media, other media outlets fully support your right to bear arms.

This is why /k/ has created nothing new here, they're still within mainstream values - just on a controversial side of it. This counter-culturalism isn't particularly ubermensch-esque any more than how the media demonizes smokers yet they still do it anyway. It is just irrelevant to ubermensch-hood.
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>>579259
Well, your rights are secured by laws, which are there because of political and public support.

You seem to be crying because some people don't like you.

Meanwhile, your grandparents grew up knowing they could die of strep throat.
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>>579279
My rights are not dependent upon law.

>>579265
As a matter of hypothetical extremes, yes. However, to a certain point it's a very Nietzschean spirit that animates /k/. We have literally created a joke religion based around a god that is the embodiment of man's ingenuity to use weapons to overcome adversity. This is what's Nietzschean in the /k/ ethos: The will to overcome. That being said, we're still at the camel and have not yet attained the Lion if you'll let me stretch a metaphor.

Ave Nex Alea. http://kweapons.wikia.com/wiki/Glorious_Murder_Cube
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>>579325
I can't dispute that.

But as I say, /gif/'s total disregard for any conventional bashfulness and the pure volume of webm's it creates is much more ubermensch like than anywhere else on 4chan. Its board culture is enriched and totally dominated by a small portion of contributing users, this is a very Nietzsche like way for culture to work. As opposed to /k/'s more general and slower growth from the popular community.
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>>579349
Well, we can share :P

That being said, this uninhibited disregard for the norms of society. This was your reaction. That sad, tired, old black helicopter joke. >>579172 An immediate attempt to marginalize us all as a certain subsection of the population bound up in bellicosity and paranoia. As a danger to civil society. So that process is clearly at work here.
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>>579376
If black helicopters came to take your guns would you fight?
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>>579385
I dunno. If I came to claim your ass would you fight?

Please say that you'd fight. I likes'm when they fight.
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>>579395
Because if you would, then the joke isn't exactly unfounded.
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>>569416
My picture for /x/

And better off -
/x/ is more about
-Dude magic is real I took drugs MAAAN

-Aliens must be real because I had a dream where I communicated with them.
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>>573573
How about you go there then, faggot?
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>>576800
Tbh I think most "leftists" here and on 2x4chan are left-fascists anyway.
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>>579212
If the strong are so feeble they can be molded that easily, they're weak.
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>>579405
Or maybe I'm just a dick.
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>>579581
Strength isn't the ability to others down, strength is the ability to raise yourself and possibly even others up.

Being a giant hater and getting butthurt about other people's strengths so hard that everyone starts to believe you doesn't make you strong. Sure it makes you influential, but not because of any merit of your own, but because of the fact that so many people would like to believe what you're saying that your collective rage easily smothers the glory of the few.

But this is kind of Nietzsche's point, the really strong should be able to just resist this brainwashing and be ubermensch.
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>>573674
>/his/ is all that's left here.
/his/ is shite and it also ruined the few good threads on /int/

/pol/s fault really.
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I just realized something:

philosophers are most useless people ever.
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>>579852
Define "useless".
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>>569441
Watch the back blast you idiot
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