How would the world be different today if religion never had existed, and instead a major world wide focus on science took its place?
This is a hypothetical history thread.
Would we be 1000 years more advanced?
>How would the world be different today if religion never had existed
The world would be much less rich without mythology and great works of human imagination
On the other hand senseless cruelty born from superstition like human sacrifice wouldn't occur.
There would need to be some educated organization to gather knowledge without the work of early monks and priests
Overall nothing would really change. Humans are assholes when it suits us.
>major world wide focus on science took its place
We'd probably be a bit more advanced if the actual "Scientific Method" took off during the stone age
I'm trying to imagine a "world wide focus on science" making hunter-gatherers stop stealing from each other and dedicating time with their children at Gobekli Tepe.
Errmmm, seeing as 98% of the inventions ever invented came from White Christians of Germanic and Anglo-Saxon descent, probably not much. Freeing the masses of their religious beliefs wouldn't give them a massive IQ boost. And it wouldn't make society any more harmonious. People have plenty of reasons to exploit each other.
I think a more interesting question would be how much more advanced (technologically) would we be if we never abandoned laissez-faire free market capitalism.
That's a useless question because religion/spirituality is part of human nature.
That's like asking how the world would be today if sex never existed, or eating never existed, or breathing never existed.
Imports from India?
But seriously, Monks have helped in advancing science, so if we should blame anyone from slowing the inventions it should be Henry VIII with getting rid of monks in Britain, and Romanesque period, when they had massive boner for Ancient Rome and Greece, and massive hateboner for Medieval Europe, which led to having to reinvent stuff that already existed in medieval times.
There wouldn't even be a science right now if Arabs and Christian monks didn't preserve ancient Greek texts you mongoloid. Also I think it's hilarious how religion pre-1900 is reduced to "those retards thought Zeus made lightning lmfao" while completely ignoring it's transcendent dimension and wealth of wisdom writings
Just once I'd like to debate with a Fedora who actually knows his shit and isn't a fucking reddit drone
Humans were doing science the moment they realised that rubbing stuff together makes fire. Science is just trial and error so a science based world would be one based on assumptions, unlike religion in this world all religious beliefs would have been tested before hand then considered false if proven false.
>all religious beliefs would have been tested before hand then considered false if proven false.
You don't test "religious beliefs"...
It helps idiots not commit suicide at how spiritually numb reality actually is, I mean most people dont realize they are just talking carbon animated by various electromagnetic phenomenon.
Religion right now is the most important aspect in developed nations, especially the west. We are going through spiritual tribulations, nihilism is a huge problem. Religion is honestly the biggest problem we face in the world. There needs to be an ethical framework in place.
while I agree with the sentiment of that image, many of the christians i've met interpret those stories in a literal sense, as though they're proper history. not even an atheist, but I live in a fairly rural area so that may be part of it.
>I mean these retards don't even get Beethoven's 5th is just made up of individual notes! Heh what are they getting so excited about heh
Fucking clown. What something is made of invalidates all value and meaning, yah great argument brosef go back to reddit
Wrong christian retard I have alot of self control meaning I dont need religion to restrain myself. As an atheist I know exactly how to rid the world of degenerate uncivilized behavior but you religious types call it immoral or inhumane. It involves human experimentation.
>Who is Francis Bacon?
>Who is Leonardo Da Vinci?
>Who is Rene Descartes?
>Who is Isaac Newton?
>Who is Gregor Mendel?
>Who is Pierre Teilhard de Chardin?
>Who is Arthur Eddington?
>Who is Georges Lemaître?
This list is only Christians. If it were religious people in general, all the names wouldn't fit.
If religion had never existed, we might actually be more primitive, since the initial process of forming civilized society depended heavily upon religious belief to bind people together and make them respect their leaders.
It's doubtful that we could have gotten rid of religion with no ill effects prior to the late 1600s.
>What does religion have to offer anybody now?
An incredibly effect path for self-growth and introspection that can lead to a better appreciation for life and more altruism?
Well, unless you don't count those things as benefits.
We'd be still stuck in the Stone Age.
How would you convince Mr. Obtuse Neanderthal to cooperate with you for something other than self-defense and hunting?
>A council of men like you has decided that you must not shit in the streets anymore
Who the fuck are these men? I'll keep shitting on the streets, kthxbye.
>This powerful invisible being that sometimes throws thunders on the ground told us to never shit on the streets anymore
Oh shit, let me invent the toilet!
We can't escape ideology, my friend.
We're eating from the trash can of ideology constantly.
>I already am eating from the trash can all the time. The name of this trash can is ideology. The material force of ideology makes me not see what I am effectively eating.
- Slavoj Zizek
Human cooperation is a very ancient trait that goes back to our days as monkeys 50 million year ago, we aid eachother because we are a social species that works together to survive. However the basis of religion is trying to explain existence without science or just feel good assumptions so religion is inevitable really.