Can historical revisionism ever be used for good? Or will it always be up to ideological bias thus never be true or beneficial to anyone.
The danger is this
>history is being rewritten/revised
>majority believes in the lie
>..some people do research and uncover the truth
>majority accuses this minority of being history revisionists
I can't count the times I've been called a "tinfoil" or "conspiracy nut" by retards.
Funny enough, I had a fedora tipping Marxist (also an SJW) dismiss everything I said as historical revisionism when the only thing I did was simply say that the historical events, he had the gall to say that it never happened and I was making it up.
Revision has always been part of the study of history, it becomes revisionism when you start looking to pry the answers you want out of it.
>I had a fedora tipping Marxist (also an SJW)
See? This is what I mean.
You get this instant cognitive dissonance and defense-mechanism from people who refuse to do any research or study into the subject and simply cling to the "official" narrative.
>lemme post this reaction image
>that'll show him he's wrong!
theres footage of astronauts creating bubbles in space.. they are actually underwater
and the entire NASA (serpent tongue in its logo) program is a sham
the "floating" are done in zero gravity planes
and why is there still not a photo from the ball earth? all earth photos are CGI or composites
copernicus was a freemason, heliocentrism is about worshipping the sun (Satan)
Seconding this, the public in general knows fucking nothing about Europe during the Middle Ages apart from the history equivalent of pop-sci taught in high school, shitty fantasy movies, and some revisionist memes like "the church hated science"
the earth is a flat circle, like a pizza
antarctica is in the edges, and a dome covers the world like the "firmament" in the Bible
there are amateur rockets and balloons that go on high altitudes and show no curvature at all.
if you look at commercial flight paths, they dont make any sense on a ball earth.
a flight from chile to south-africa goes first to europe, and then all the way across africa. why not just across the ocean?
if you unfold the ball earth, all flights suddenly make sense. the flight from chile to south-africa is a straight line as it's supposed to be.
>Lol guys Troy is a myth and Europe had no civilization before the Ancient Greek city states
>Guy finds Troy and others the Minoan civilization.
Well gee, what a bunch of assholes for messing with established history.
>a flight from chile to south-africa goes first to europe, and then all the way across africa. why not just across the ocean?
because there is no demand for travel straight from chile to south africa hence making it commercially unviable?
Enjoy your fedora and neckbeard, don't forget to take a shower.
the official UN logo, aswell as the official map of the world in the 18th century.
if the earth is round, why does the UN use a flat earth model?
expeditions to antarctica are very few and heavily monitored. why all the secrecy?
it also has a heavy military presence
So there's no evidence you have for thebubbles?
They do have photos of the earth, but you're right, most are computer generated.
Ok, so any proof on the NASA being a sham?
There are some that aren't CGI, but they aren't in high quality.
I'm into the FES too, I like flat earth theories because they are fun thought experiments, but you shouldn't take them seriously. They rely on things like aether wind which is more bizarre than gravity.
this video shows that the sun is much closer to us than you've been taught
2:57 clearly shows a sun that is very close to earth, exactly as the Bible says
so much irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that proves a flat earth.
our ancestors were right. they knew the truth.
then came the freemasons and introduced the heliocentric model in an attempt to discredit Christianity.
after the ball earth theory, came the theory of evolution. after that, came aliens.
it's all designed to make you stop believing in god, that's satan's grand agenda
astronauts (or more accurately: actornauts) are on footage saying they don't get any water inside their helmet.
you can hear "action, go!". it's all a script, they are fooling you.
there is no space. there is no galaxy or universe. it's all fantasy and in your head.
no man has broken through the firmament.
they are telling you the earth is a ball..
they are laughing at you for believing it
I think it's dangerous really. I'd like to believe that there can be some integrity to history, but I think at the end of the day it is up to the individual to look past the narrative.
No it's just that your theory has been debunked and destroyed so many times but your paranoia has always completely dismissed it. How about you learn a bit of science before you believe in stupid shit.
Nah I don't think it would have imploded, and if it did it would have taken a lot more time to do so then what's usually projected. But I do think that ethnic tensions is downplaying a little bit, I mean Franz Joseph spent much of his time just trying to keep things together and everyone at peace.
The high point of the tensions happened decades before in 1848-49 and was steadily improving since. After the Austro-Hungarian compromise there were already plans set in motion to create autonomous Slavic crownlands within the empire.
IT'S SO FUCKING FLAT
You know, I was going to shitpost in this thread, but our pizza earther has me beat; there's nothing I could come up with that would even approach his level of insanity.
On a serious note, I get a little of what >>560444 is talking about when I try to bring up actual combat statistics involving WW2, especially when it comes to American armor performance. The notion that "Shermans sucked" is so deeply ingrained that nothing seems to be able to shake it.
Really? Well I suppose if it was steadily improving and they were just dealing with the rough bumps here and there, reminds me a bit of the FLQ in Canada, except there wouldn't be a referendum in the 1980.
If the Earth is flat, then how did Erasthones manage to measure its circumference based on shadow measuring? You wouldn't have different shadow lengths on the same day from the same structures if the earth was flat.
Because not all flights are direct? I mean fuck, one time when I was trying to book a trip from the U.S. to London, the cheapest flight had a stopover in Helsinki, which is definitely the wrong way around.
And in fact a lot of flight paths only make sense because of earth's curvature, especially going from northern North America to somewhere like England, it's often shorter to go up and over and then back down than it is to go "straight" across,.
Now it's your turn. How did Erasthones manage to do it if the Earth is really flat?
>Implying Satan's existence
>Implying one cannot perceive lies
>Implying there is no such thing as propaganda which flat earthers fall easily for.
>What is individuality and the encoding decoding theory which makes the concept of "agenda" moot
Are we done here?
Since your grip is with NASA here's a Soviet picture. The ruskies had no fucking reason to cooperate with us in space. If NASA was lying, they'd be called out on it immediately.
They have doctored pictures from the 19th century you idiot. No, earthrise 1971 probably wasnt done in Photoshop on Windows 7, but they had CGI back then you fucking unbelievable moron.
>Implying Satan's greatest trick even exists
>Implying I am going to hand over my individuality and freedom to a dogmatic religion that forces me to kneel to a non-existent deity in order to escape the clutches of a non-existent devil
Christians are funny. Enjoy fucking your bible, after that mind passing me it? I need to wipe my ass with it.
You handed over your "individuality" and "freedom" to the devil.
And the worst thing is, you don't even know it.
You *ACTUALLY* believe you're serving no one, but you're furthering someone agenda.
Atheists are pawns for Satan's scheme, you're a useful idiot.
From Cassini going past Saturn. Let me guess, this is doctored too?
Curvature of the Earth plainly visible here in this very rudimentary Soviet photo from the 1st space walk
>You dismiss them all as CGI or fakes.
See what I'm saying?
I'm still waiting for an explanation of Eratosthenes's little experiment. It would be completely meaningless (not to mention impossible) if the Earth was flat. How'd he do it then? Or is the conspiracy about 2,200 years old?
>Earth will never have an asteroid belt
Imagine how rich would art and literature had been with such a majestic and mysterious sight.
>You handed over your "individuality" and "freedom" to the devil.
You put quotes around those worse as if they are concepts with no value. You fuck, individuality and freedom is the sole thing we live by, it is the thing that makes us strong as individuals and even stronger as a nation. When you join a fucking dogmatic religion such as Christianity you automatically give up those things. You join a collective, a collective that is only meant to induce fear on each other and the people around you. Grow the fuck up, humanity already has.
You have freedom by being with God, retard.
In your natural state. The Creator who made you.
Satan wants you to believe there is no God.
Satan wants you to believe "you can become like god!" through technology and trans-humanism and New Age philosophy.
Good job getting deceived, moron.
Historical revisionism only got a bad rap because a bunch of right-wing dorks tried to deny the holocaust.
ball earthers place their entire faith in nasa.
they have faith that what they are selling you is true, that they are not lying and that they have no sinister agenda.
they conveniently ignore the fact that nasa is known to have forged images. if they can fake the moon landing, what else can they fake?
stop being such blind followers of the pop-sci cult. the nasa logo has a SNAKE TONGUE going through it ffs
Because the human eyes are limited and can't see that far.
If you use a camera, you can zoom in and see farther than your eyes, hence telescopes.
All of these questions are answered in a simple Flat Earth documentary, there are tons on YT.
I bet you don't even know about the prehistoric lizard empire, pic related
Yeah, they also ignore all the occult symbolism on NASA patches.
Or the fact NASA is riddled with Freemasons and occultists.
The Bible warned us that Satan would deceive the entire world.
I believe the "great delusion" and "false miracles" refer to Heliocentrism and Evolution.
>You have freedom by being with a god*, retard.
You obviously have no idea what freedom is.
>In your natural state. The creator* who made you.
That implies that any god is natural. Prove he made me you fuck. You will absolutely lose.
>Satan wants you to believe "you can become like god!" through technology and trans-humanism and New Age philosophy.
No one wants to become a god. Fucking christ you're retarded. Trans-humanism is nothing more than a philosophy in which we use technology to enhance ourselves beyond our natural capability, to do what previously could not be done. To integrate technology with us, rather than as an extension of us. Your knowledge on philosophy is severely lacking. Also Satan has to be the most convenient copout I've ever heard.
You worship yourself.
You're a materialist, fedora-tipping cuck that sucks the devil's sperm.
Whether you believe in God/Satan is irrelevant, you are being used in a spiritual battle that has been going on since the dawn of mankind.
You are on the wrong side of history.
I'll pray for you.
>some retards/sun worshippers believed in a ball earth
It didn't became the majority until Copernicus, which was a Freemason who delved into sun worship.
>yes goy, the Earth revolves around the Sun!
>the Sun doesn't revolve around the Earth as the Bible says, don't listen to that old book!
>worship the Sun! yess.. yesssss...
>You worship yourself.
You're god damn right.
>You're a materialist
Better than a spiritualist.
Those two are totally contradictory, thankfully I'm neither.
>that sucks the devil's sperm
If Satan's sperm tastes like nice scotch than I don't mind.
>Whether you believe in God/Satan is irrelevant
Apparently it is according to you.
>you are being used in a spiritual battle that has been going on since the dawn of mankind.
A spiritual battle that you can't see, hear, examine, touch, or anything like that. I suppose you're doing "god's work". Last time I checked, people that did god's work took down the twin towers. People that do "god's work" embark on crusades that kill millions of people. People that do "god's work" put all of Europe in an illiterate shit hole for 800 years. "God's work" is only used to fit an agenda and narrative with a supporting ideology.
>You are on the wrong side of history.
Then I love this side of history, and it is you that is phasing out of history.
>I'll pray for you.
Sure, and I'll pray to Cthulu for you.
>It didn't became the majority until Copernicus, which was a Freemason who delved into sun worship.
It quite literally was near universal since at least 200 B.C. Which is again, the entire basis of all those attempts to measure the earth's side by shadow estimation.
Your daily reminder that Columbus's argument wasn't flat earth vs round earth, it was about the earth's size.
By the way, heliocentrism and whether or not the earth is flat or round are two completely seperate things.
It wasn't believed by Europeans at all. It's a damn stupid meme.
Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference. He was only able to do so because of the Earth's curvature.
The guy talking makes a lot of sense actually..
>most of world believes earth is a sphere
>USA/Russia goes up to prove it once and for all with photographs
>instead they see a completely flat Earth
If they told the world that the Earth was flat, we'd be shocked because we believed in the heliocentric model.
But if they burried the truth and pretended the Earth is round, that would keep us in line..
Never thought of it that way.
>sphericity has anything to do with heliocentrism
>mfw i'm replying to a reddit shill
The KJV has no contradiction whatsoever.
Maybe your modern perverted versions.
You like the KJV, huh?
>And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
>And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
>And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
>When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
So which one of those 4 were Jesus's last words on the cross? And please note that Mark and Matthew give the same message, but make different claims as to what language Jesus said it in. Was it Hebrew or Aramaic?
In Luke and John, right there in the passage, given that he "gives up the ghost" immediately thereafter. In Mark and Matthew, 3 and 4 verses later, each containing an interlude about how onlookers thought he was invoking Elijah.
For that matter, what about the fact that John doesn't have the crucifixion on the same day as the other three?
this is the best photo of earth for dealing with flat earthers, the first television picture of the earth (and it shows my home province!)
>clearly shows the curvature of the earth
>showed the actual weather patterns at that moment, corroborated by US weather bureau (the entire project was to test whether imaging weather patterns from space would be feasible or useful)
>shown to the president the very same day in 1960 when image alteration was very time consuming
note also a whole bunch of pictures of hurricanes taken from space, you can check the dates they were taken against the recorded positions of those storms if you want, crazy person.