All of our world leaders, atheletes, celebrities, and high class business men have beyond millions of dollars.
Living in a predominately secular age, the world is concerned with scientific and technological advancement.
Yet, you have the lower class struggling, working harder physically, and third-world societies that are starving themselves to their own end.
If the world has all the resources to make everyone equal and help those who are in direct need, why don't they?
The money doesn't even mean anything, send these guys food and support, tools and homes, why can't we accomplish this?
If there is only one life to life according to popular secular belief, what use it is sitting in luxury with millions of dollars telling Mexicans to pay for their border which is "our" idea, while we clearly have all the money we can ask for and do it ourself?
This predominat secular society is going to bring about its own destruction.
>If the world has all the resources to make everyone equal and help those who are in direct need, why don't they?
Because they don't and you can't and you shouldn't. Attempts to do so are the biggest source of evil in our age.
What do you think is more important? Helping a third world country with a surplus of money or building a new and improved atomic bomb?
With all the money we supposedly owe China, it is amazing how much we pay football players.
I like religion, but using religion to spread peace doesn't always work out, like the Christian inquisition, it isn't a religious thing to do, but through religious imperialism they take away the credibility of God's message.
One of the many faults of mankind.
What is evil about sending out surplus resources?
The average American wastes more food than they consume, spends more money on things that they don't need, and all these "new employment" opportunities are going to people who have degrees and opportunities to go to college, and not the average low class citizen who needs a job and can't get one because they lack credentials.
The 'christian inquisition' worked as intended and was one of the best things the catholics ever came up with.
Any ideological system without an inquisition will inevitably undergo degenerative memetic mutation through mobocracy.
If some illiterate confused rabble accuses me of 'heresy' because Bob is mad I ran the table on him at poker night and wants to get back at me, I'd much prefer if someone who could actually read scripture stepped in to actually give a fair trial.
OP this might shock you but inequality and self-serving elites aren't a product of modern secular age, they've been with us since people walked out of caves
seriously stop romanticizing past, it's cancer
The Catholics only lost their credibility of being the people who should have been representing the teachings of Jesus. That is what inquisition means, they were looking out for their own welfare and not looking out for God in anyway
What is evil is sending good money after bad. Breeding evil is evil.
If we spent treasure on frivolous shit like giant casinos in the middle of a desert wasteland, that would still be preferable to actively subsidizing deleterious dynamics, it is at least a non negative outcome.
It does matter that back then, it was the same situation, but not doing anything about it is "cancer", that is submission to higher class citizens who are no better than you, me, or someone starving right now with no possession of luxury, but because they have more money, they are seen as "great"
That's why you don't send money to bad people or invest in a casino, both serve useless.
The goal should be helping the needy people who could use the surplus resources of those who have them, and waste them.
it's called hierarchy, look it up
And today's system isn't as half as bad as it was in the past, in fact you have much higher chances of living at least decent life today (not being super-extra rich, mind you) than ever before
Here's the good news my man, that rhetoric like 'helping needy people' is precisely the sort of feelgoodisms that so often lead to the proliferation of man shaped refuse, so you don't need to worry about it any more!
War is a huge waste of money when the war doesn't mean anything.
The world wants to horde all its economical sustainability for themselves selfishly, and all the wealth they keep and all the material advancement they have serves fruitless when they die, and they let all these other people die in the mean time, because they were too busy wasting money going to Mars and sending out political ad campaigns.
>War is a huge waste of money
True in most cases, but war is also where the resources, riches and resources beckon, so that takes care of that
Nobody sane fights a war just because they feel like it, but because they want to gain something in that war
What makes you ask?
It's a good thing to take note of, "helping the needy" is my lack of education term for "there are people dying right now meanwhile America uses that money instead to go to Mars mannn"
They have bad intentions and don't care for their people.
Trump might be at top, and he is a racist and hates Muslims, that is not someone who is qualified to even be running for president.
Seriously. "Hey guys let's spend all this money on a nuke"
That's actually a big problem. "We need to see if aliens live on Mars so yeah let's blow a few billion dollars" when someone who could use ten dollars is without anything to the point of starvation and disease.
The world doesn't actually care about anybody.
What more could we ask for?
Just saying, "technological advancement" means nothing when you are concerned with making bombs and not even attempting to help lower class citizens.
This is what a secular society does. It doesn't teach any fundamentals for self realization or any conception of God, which makes sense considering the butthurt factor of parents, but this society that bases it's "truths" off scientific methods and "objective atheism" can change its data even after a discovery is stated as the "truth"
One is on the path of civilization, the other is the path of a global dirt farm, stuck in time. You'll never run out of nignogs or other untermenschen to feed. If you try, there will always be more asking next time, only now even more will be starving and suffering, because youve artificially inflated the carrying capacity beyond what they are capable of. Until you are ready and able to judge better from worse, you will never be able to draw that line, you'll just keep going all the way into oblivion. You'll have to decide to stop somewhere.
I have no respect for autists who think having the mentality of a cockroach is the height of morality, people who think the path to holiness is a mere numbers game of the maximal amount of human(ish) things living possible.
Just saying, we don't need the billions of dollars to go to Mars mannn you can get high for under ten dollars today.
The people who could use our surplus resources aren't getting them because the top class is hording everything.
>This is what a secular society does. It doesn't teach any fundamentals for self realization or any conception of God, which makes sense considering the butthurt factor of parents, but this society that bases it's "truths" off scientific methods and "objective atheism" can change its data even after a discovery is stated as the "truth"
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I live in a society with little to no religion, and I have no problem with self-realization.
Just because it's not your specific flavor of self-realization doesn't mean there's no self-realization going on
This isn't the point of the thread though.
A secular-humanist society that doesn't actually care for the world (atomic warfare) or people (starving, death by disease)
The secular society doesn't mind bringing down how many people live on Earth because it's "easier" for them.
Pol Pot saw the world as you describe. He fixed Cambodia. He fixed it real good.
In a world that has no basis for any spiritual principles, and cares for its scientific advancement, this is the by-product of this "objective truth" that science and atheism tends to claim itself to be.
The government should not hold anything in its own possession.
There needs to be a way to cultivate for all beings without the control of communism or the conspiracy of capitalism.
Never read too much into communism though
It doesn't need a space program, they need food and water, stuff we throw away and take extra long hot showers...
But America is too busy making $ and spending money$$ so people like Tom Brady and Jay-Z can be rich, but we owe China all this money.
It's a false reality, and people are too busy listening to music and watching football to even think for a second. I know it's a radical opinion
>your greentext didn't say anything I mentioned this whole thread
>try making a point to learning before you come on here with your opinions on a board that let's you posts your opinions on history and humanity
Just saying this predominately secular society has a huge hole in itself
>because the top class is hording everything.
There are far worse things those resources could be doing. There are worse things those resources *are* doing.
Did you know that, for instance, in 1949 the population of Africa was around 200 million, while today it is over a *billion*, a nearly *quintuple* increase in *hardly half a century*? Such a thing is unprecedented in all human history!
All the choking violence, the starvation, the wars over rapidly shrinking living space, rapidly shrinking resources. Its all because of people like you, people who are not being good, but rather are LARPing as a good person, mouthing easy pieties and engaging in moral posturing to show other people how much holier they are than them, not realizing the implications of what they say, the damage and consequences the things they preach have (because all values are implicit teleologies).
Know this man, righteousness is *not* a numbers game, if you truly wish to be good, you need to realize that there is no easy deontological rule you can hide behind to do your thinking for you, no system level 'hack' that will let you completely escape from having to do object level judgment, from ultimately having to judge better from worse, *including people*.
I mean the places that don't have them, and the lower class who could use them.
Again, how much money does America owe China? How much money is the average football star make? How much money do you make?
>Hey I work pretty hard
And yet the people on top, with all this "money" gotta go to Mars mannn toke it up blaze it 420 billion dollars later.... that's all just something to think about.
I'm not an expert or some fucking 4chan scholar who has all these terms to throw out there, I just feel it's important to spread this message.
The rudeness isn't directed towards you either
Its entirely reasonable, for them.
It would of course be a lot less messy to bring the rule to them than bring them to the rule, which tends to create a great many, how to say, 'negative externalities'.
See now that's something I can read.
You're point is simple in that post.
It isn't a giant paragraph about a bunch of stuff that *tries* to *convince* the point by trying to point out hypothetical scenarios that kind of mean something in a sense don't get me wrong every opinion has its *value* but you have to realize what this actually looks like when you just want to have a simple discussion you know no offense but call me *stupid* isn't going to change my opinion on how I view the world, big deal get to the point anon, like why are you typing so many words in such a small block of information okay like use a few words that makes sense you wanna prove your point it works out nicely of course sometimes you have to use *alot* of words and I get that but if you really don't *have* to then why do you you know just chill out and relax man its all good
How can you have the presumption of starting a philosophical discussion when you are ignorant even of the things that describe yourself and your position? You literally know not what you do. There is a minimum standard to actually have a conversation on a topic like this and you're below it. We can not communicate with each other so this discussion is pointless.