>>559840 Although he was absolutely fucking evil and I can never agree with the doctrine of socialism in one country, he oversaw one of the most quickest industrialisation/modernisation processes in human history.
>>560088 >I can never agree with the doctrine of socialism in one country, What... Are you a Trotskyite? Do you have any idea how stupid that is.
Stalin saved the world from exactly that evil, he killed all those psychopathic genocidal Bolsheviks and kept their cancer from spreading to rapidly and forcefully. He reigned back the hellish extremes of permanent revolution and instituted the lesser evil, and only other viable option at the time, of a typical Asiatic despotism.
>>560199 >bloodthirsty Based on what? >Jewish False and irrelevant >Stalin is portrayed as being so evil by the press is because he removed the revolutionary internationalist Jewish Bolshevik element from absolute power. Again false, basically no one mentions jews as a big deal regarding stalin except neonazis, but i'm not surprised that you believe in retarded conspiracies.
>>560212 Your /pol/tard buzzwords sure convinced me! Smith came up with the ltov, and surplus value/exploitation are a necessary consequence of it. You're not on /pol/, why don't you read smith and marx and come back with arguments?
>>560264 You are an ignorant /pol/tard that doesn't know shit about what you are talking about, and you should feel ashamed of your stupidity. Marxian economics is an analysis of capitalism, not a set of prescriptive rules for communism, which is barely mentioned in marx's work. The aim is to understand capitalism. Marx's economic work is derived from classical economists, mainly adam smith and david ricardo, and thus has a lot in common with them. Adam Smith economic theory is a lot more similar to marxist theory than to modern economics.
>>560271 >Wrong. Marx came up with the ltov, and it was promptly debunked by economists such as Menger. Too bad you didn't get the memo. Ah, so you're the average retarded internet austrian. I know using google may be a hard task for your little brain but i must urge you to try, you are objectively wrong.
>>560296 >True and very relevant. You'll need a source for that, given that every single source says the opposite. I can even give you neonazis sources that say that bukharin isn't jewish: "Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate, Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews." >http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html What's even more retarded is that you claim that "Stalin is portrayed as being so evil by the press is because he removed the revolutionary internationalist Jewish Bolshevik element from absolute power", but he was allied with bukharin when he overthrew trotsky zinoviev and kamenev. At this point, i can't really tell if you are massively ignorant or trolling me.
>>560382 Again, false. Feel free to prove me wrong providing a source that even claims that, since i can't find even a neonazi one that does, let alone a serious one.
Here's another neonazi (i think from a quick look) page that claims bukharin isn't jewish: >It should be noted that most of the Bolshevik leaders who were not Jewish nonetheless had Jewish wives, e.g. Bukharin, Rykov, Molotov, Voroshilov, Kirov, Dzherzhinsky, Lunacharsky. http://www.truthinourtime.com/2013/01/24/list-of-jews-in-soviet-russia/
In any case, and even though you're wrong, all of this is completely irrelevant, i don't give a fuck about who's jewish and who isn't.
>>560121 Although just a good old democratic socialist that finds the use of violence intolerable, I indeed do like Trotsky and would find more sense in his ideas. On a slightly different point, it would be interesting to see the effectiveness of Stalin's policies if none of the purges happened.
>>560755 >No he wasn't. He killed about 3 times the amount that Hitler did. That is demographically impossible.
>Not only that, but he also killed his own people, whereas Hitler didn't. >Adolf Hitler seems like the kind of guy you could sit down and have a coffee without worrying about the secret police dragging you off in the middle of the night to your death. Lol. Back to /pol/
It's pretty sad that people can't seem to be able to separate their political inclinations from their interpretation of historical facts. Also, i didn't know /pol/tards defended stalin. They really can't get more edgy, can they?
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