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Is America the only modernized country wherein over half the population can graduate high school and not know when the The Roman Republic existed, when the French Revolution happened, and not know who Voltaire is?
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>>553282

You're dreaming if you think more than 5% of the population of any country in the world could tell you those facts
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>>553282
Is America the only country where the critique of the history curriculum amounts to requiring knowledge of trivial Anglocentric dates?
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>>553331
>Anglocentric

The past is told by those who win, Mehmet.
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>>553282
The majority of people in any country couldn't tell you those things.
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>>553282
>and not know who Voltaire is?
why is this a bad thing? he is pretty much garbage tier tbqh
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>>553305
This.
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>>553351
I'm glad to see your only complaint is your cretinistic nationalism being challenged and not your cretinistic chroniclery.
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>>553282
A quick internet search and any person can find out all that information. Welcome to the 21st century, where it doesn't matter, and if it does, you can just look it up.
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>>553305
Vatican City
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>>553282
Exact dates don't matter, what matters is that you know what the event was, and the approximate time period that it occurred in, with those approximate dates getting more accurate the closer you get to present day. (ie, if you think WW2 happen in 1750 you're a retard, but if you think the Roman empire was founded in 200 that's more forgivable)
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>>554147
You're stupid if you don't think Rome, The French Revolution and Voltaire are extremely important parts of Western Civilization. Which, by the way, invented the device, the medium and the language you're using to shitpost. Also, Rome invented shitposting.

Kudos for inventing kebabs though, that shit is tasty.
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>>554231
>Western Civilization
Doesn't exist. There is no unique western way of building a city.
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>>553282
>implying Europoors can tell you when the American Revolution happened or who Thomas Paine and George Washington are.
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>>554237
There is a Western way of making history. THAT is Western Civilization.
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>>554237
Would you be angry if a Chinese classroom focused on China?
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>>554274
No, that would be some separate claim about a western culture. Civilisation means living in cities.

And there's no unique western culture.

I seriously hope you're not doing a history degree because you're going to be crying yourself to sleep with the mantra "Ps make degrees."
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>>553282
This thread is bad, and you should feel bad for creating it.
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>>554269
>when the American Revolution
1649 through to the mid 1930s. Largely coupled to the British revolution until 1783/1812

>Paine
A semi-radical whig revolutionary. Probably more significant for his influence on the British revolution (failed).

>Washington
A semi-tory whig revolutionary. Best known for his capacity to keep a pathetic main line force in retreat and cantonment without mutiny while the French and Spanish threatened Gibraltar with siege.
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>>553282
...what does Socialism have to do with this?
Well...better funded public schools, which can enforce stricter standards and hold back dumbasses WOULD help.
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>>554283

>“Effective working definition (especially by archaeologists): a grouping of at least several thousand people with a common culture, usually a common language, usually a geographic locale, some significant (usually monumental) buildings and architecture, and a political structure that is not necessarily unified” (Blaha 2002 and provided for this review).

Civilization does take cultural aspects into consideration (Western Individualism v. Eastern Collectivism), are you trying to imply there is one uniform global culture?

Or are you being contrarian to a pointless degree?
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>>553282
Japan.

>>554274
None of those things are Catholic though.
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>>554293
fifel put your name back on or better yet start tripping
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>>554155
this. lol who actually memorizes facts. It's all about critical thinking and creativity bro
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>>554269
Who the fuck is Thomas Paine?
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>>554412
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>553305
I'd be appaled if this wasn't known in most of Europe. Maybe the exact date of the French revolution would be a problem for some though.
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>>554575
1968 in May wasn't it?
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>>554155
a quick internet search will make you one of those monkeys parroting popular myths

pol is the best example
misinformation: the board
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>>553282
Americans are dumbed down because they cling to the belief that money is everything. If knowing anything about history doesn't improve their chances of being a millionaire - then it is superfluous.
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>>554604
This is a good point.
You can find extremely talented blue collar laborers, like mechanics and skilled trades, virtually everywhere, but most of them know nothing outside of their trade.
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>>554619
In my department you can find many good historians, like social or political historians, virtually everywhere, but most of them know nothing outside their vocation.

They don't know how to wipe their own arses basically.
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>>553282

>the roman republic
Almost no ordinary person knows these dates

>the french republic and voltaire
Ok, this everyone knows.
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>>553305
Quite common knowledge in mongoli... Finland
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>>554580
kek
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>>554619
>blue collar laborers
The rich are just as bad. All art, music, architecture is judged purely by its price tag.
Consequently, we have a cultural dark age since the 1950s, at least.
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>>554304
Rome and France are the most Catholic. The Pope lives in the Vatican City and Charlemange was a Frank.

Voltaire, not so sure about. He was French but probably not a devout Catholic.
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Holy shit the replies in this thread ate middle school tier

Wait

I always forget that not everyone on 4chan is over 18

Goddamnit I'm literally posting with a bunch of middle schoolers
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>>553282
I never knew any of that when I graduated. I was vaguely aware the French Revolution happened during the 1700s because of the makeup and wigs.

I taught myself about the Roman Republic, the French Revolution and Enlightenment philosophers only in the last couple of years.
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>>553305
>>554695
Basic stuff in Finland.
Can confirm.
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>>553282
I doubt Asian countries teach any of that. Especially Voltaire.
I mean how many highschool graduates in Europe or the Americans can name 5 pre-communist Chinese rulers? Any 5 Chinese rulers from the several thousand years of history?
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>>553282
>>553305
Pretty much every single male I know in my country knows all 3 of those things.

Women are another story.
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>>554994
What county are you from?

In Straya I reckon that most wouldn't know the distinction between the republic and Rome in general, next to nothing about the French revolution other than maybe guillotines, and most likely nothing about Voltaire.
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>>555002
Norway.

We have actually have a lot of European continental history in history class in high school, probably because our own history is so shit.
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>>554412
>>554422
This is Thomas Paine aka T-Pain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Pain
:^)
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>>554994
What country? In my country I don't think men are generally more educated, especially not about history.
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>>555027
Norway, but I'm talking about the masses in general.

Seems to me that men in general are more interested in history, why that is, I don't really care.
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>>554293
>1649 through to the mid 1930s

what?
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>>555081
huh.. my male friends seem far more stem oriented while my girlfriends care about all the humanities pretty consistently.
I'm danish, so I dunno, can't see our cultures being that different.
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>>555097
Sure. There are more women in the humanities at my uni.

But not history for some reason. Other things like sociology, and psychology for example are majority women.
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>>555089
>1649
If you don't know what that date signifies maybe "The Commonwealth" will help you.

Basically this is the inflection point for the British revolution's beginnings where British capitalists first assaulted the power of attainder.

>mid 1930s
When labour resistance as a call to the reconfiguration of the bourgeois republic in a "true and pure form" ceased and labour resistance now had to be configured around amelioration or revolution.

Read your fucking Marx.
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