What are some /his/ approved movies?
Really? It's Russell's best movie and the rest of the cast is great.
>What was wrong with the casting?
short (well shorter than maturin) aubrey
Don't get me wrong, I liked the acting a lot, it just irked my autism.
Based Preserved Killick was absolutely fucking perfect tho.
>mfw the movie's OST is in Darthmod Empire
I wasn't too happy when I heard that they cast Crowe as Aubrey, but I was pleasantly surprised with how well he pulled it off. Bettany was too handsome to be Maturin though, but he did alright too.
The only part in the whole movie that got me rolling my eyes was when during the final battle they assault the gun deck, and a 12-year old one-armed boy leads the charge, followed by Maturin who was barely out of bed after being shot and nearly killed (even if he is a master duellist). Still, 9/10 movie overall.
>also sequels never
How would you describe Graves' methodology of getting high on mushrooms and wanking to his waifu as a way to interpret 4000 years of archaeological and literary remains across thousands of miles into a syncretic invented religion?
>a 12-year old one-armed boy leads the charge
That was actually not that implausible given that all other officers had already boarded the enemy ship. Historically, midshipmen did indeed command guns and boarding parties.
If anything, the shit part is Maturin joining the fray at all. He did it once through the whole series and it was for the specifical purpose of catching a spy, he would never have boarded just to fight, both because his place as surgeon was in the cockpit to take care of the wounded, and because he was (most incredibly hypocritically of him but w/e) a pacifist.
>cutting men up high as fuck
Kek, I don't know if chewing a coca leaf counts as high as fuck, but indeed the guy had a fucking addiction issue, he went from a habit to the next as soon as he lost it.
>That was actually not that implausible given that all other officers had already boarded the enemy ship
Yeah no, I know that history is full of incredible-sounding shit like that, it's just the fact that he was an amputee on top of being a scrawny little guy that kind of pushes it for me.
Well if you're suggesting that Graves specious fiction was underwritten compared to O'Brian's masterful if Augustine prose, then I have to agree.
But they're both fiction. And poorly contrived fiction at that. One projects post-Empire bohemian petit-bourgeois sexuality onto the past, causing sexual assignations that were impossible in real life. The other, of course, is about the Greeks.
And yet amputee officers (at least arm amputees) were a relatively common occurence (even fucking Nelson). You might say that he recuperated ridiculously fast (how long could it have taken to go from Brazil to the Galapagos, 1-2 months?), but being an amputee wouldn't have held him back in the Royal Navy. Actually if anything the opposite (honorable wound).
Go read White Goddess. It is basically Graves masturbating.
Go read Aubrey/Maturin. It is basically Yaoi fangirls 1805- "We won Malaya / Winston was an Okay Chap / Home rule was a mistake".
Yes, he gave him the sword to convince Aubrey that the captain of the ship was indeed dead, as surrendering one's sword was the way to convey the surrendering of your force. However since he wasn't actually dead, he may or may not have been planning on capturing his ship back at an opportune time, like the dastardly Frenchman that he was.
There are no /his/ approved movies. There's always something odious little turd who thinks he's showing how clever they are by pointing out that the buttons are from the wrong decade or that the uniforms are too green.
Well the frenchman was just trying to ambush his pursuer (plus the glory of defeating a military ship as a privateer), whereas Jack was just overproud and ill-accustomed to defeat, and chose to exceed his orders rather than go back in failure.
Has the same problem as american sniper. All the soldiers are infallable gods and not people. Near the end oldiers go back to farm a promotion, which is ballsy but they ar painted as gods for such acts.
For films, I'd say Barry Lyndon, Waterloo, Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven (directors cut)
For tv, Band of Brothers, I Claudius, Sharpe and Hornblower would be my choices .
t. Napoleonic Fag
The Admiral: Roaring Currents
War of the Arrows
The Physician (2013)
City of Life and Death
The Passion of Joan of Arc
That is not at all implausible.
Back in the day, children (usually second sons) of wealthy families started training as midshipmen when they were 10 or 12. Officers were expected to be able to lead and command, regardless of age.
t. merchant mariner
The French ship is a stand-in for the novel(s)'s American counterpart.
Either way, it's a privateer preying on British shipping. Jack has to stop them or let the Bonapartists rule the seas.
True, but they would have still been out of the loop. The only time they encounter outsiders that aren't trying to sink them is when they stop for supplies on the coast of South America (Brazil probably), and when they rescue the whalers at Galapagos, and I doubt those folks got much news from Europe either. You have to remember it took weeks or even months for news to cross the ocean back in those days.
Two threads and no one mentions All Quiet On The Western Front?
Let me correct that.
the last emperor
>19,000 background actors
>What's /his/ opinion on this?
Very useful to train people that "you can't blow up a social relationship," and that militarising the party results in military coups not revolutions.
Unlike the United States' attempt to express the utter evil of the professional soldier engaged in an evil mission, Apocalypse Now, the French Paratroop Officer expresses something entirely different. To the French a man may be erudite, mannerly, civil, respect his enemy intellectually, and water board them for 72 hours in order to effect a minor arrest on a regional cell. Like the Front National, the State is run by intelligent men who maintain their humanity through their brutality.
Unfortunately the urban campaign was foco bullshit.
>The Admiral: Roaring Currents
>Koreans beating Japanese in a boarding action
>All the Korean marines dressed as if they were officers
>Myeongnang being some half-assed effort in which Yi Sun-shin didn't tell any of his crew anything about his plan and then winning them over instead of a coordinated attempt to lure the Japanese into a trap
/his/ approved my ass, it's a nice movie but definitely not historically accurate.
I had a military history class in high school. our teacher was an ex lt. colonel from the army and we watched every episode of Civil War in class. We also watched Gallipoli and that final scene is engraved in my mind.
Not a movie, but Vikings seems somewhat historically accurate. Not to say that it isn't cheap dramatic game of thrones tier stuff though.
My favourite. 7 hours long.
But not the comm chatter. I can only speak for the Army, but I've never heard anyone talk like that on the radio. Shit's inefficient as fuck.
Help me out here /his/. Are there any good films concerning 1) Rome and its dealings with the Germanic tribes or 2) the fall of Rome in general?
Full Metal Jacket
Saving Private Ryan
Lawrence of Arabia
Kingdom of Heaven
Days of Heaven
The Hurt Locker
Band of Brothers
These are just things I've watched. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>The Hurt Locker
That movie is on a completely separate level of shit from all the other hypothetical shit movies in this thread. It has a level of wet Taco Bell diarrhea all for itself. It's unrealistic "I cant handle my feelings, watch how hard and mysterious I am" feels-shit with completely shit tier and unrealistic action. Made by a woman, who has no idea how men feel and what war actually is. The tactics and actions of the protagonists are fucking laughable AND JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THAT SNIPER DUEL. Blood on the rounds is enough to jam a damn M82 Barrett? Fuck.
for anyone who wants a better understanding of US history, I would suggest these documentaries. They are not part of an official series, but they all kind of blend in together with each other and it covers from 1774-1946 about. Wont teach you everything, but it will give you a well rounded understanding of the country and its history.
This documentary is one big lie unfortunately. Safe, textbook version of history from a leftist point of view. Especially anything concerning FDR and his bit during the Great Depression. Perhaps it's good they didn't go in great details about his relations with the USSR.
They literally interview George Will dumbass, if it was a left-wing piece they would've had Paul Krugman instead.
Nothing but an 100% libertarian revisionist history is good enough for you people, isweartoGod.
this even just for the "it's good to be the King" gag
they have George Will talking about this "point of view" in the documentary, you obviously haven't watched it.
You probably don't even know who that is...and you think you are a conservative lol
Conservatives usually accept this point of view. There are legitimate questions about New Deal.
At least this one was recognized but many historians aren't really interested in economics and usually ignore recent research.
Stalingrad the german version from 1993. Pretty based tbqh familia. Same goes for Das Boot or die Brücke. German war movies tend to be pretty good concerning realism, its just always heavy and depressing material.
A few gripes I had with this film. First, that the cast is way too old. Most of the real participants at the battle were in their 20s and some were in their 30s. The worst offenders of this were color-sergeant Bourne, guy with mutton-chops, who was only 24 in real life and Ferdinand Schiess, the bald one, who was only 22. The list goes on, but both of these characters were portrayed by men well in their 40s.
Second is how the film basically takes a massive shit on religion. This is completely unforgivable. Rev. Witt, also too old by at least 20 years, was not a coward. He did not urge anyone to flee. He went back to his farm to be with his family. The film also completely erases the character of chaplain George Smith, who played a prominent role in the battle.
Any other complaints are autism, but these are pretty big. Not a bad film, but could have been better.
>movie ends with the zulu praising the british and doing their super special dance for them because they are so cool
I like the movie, but this part was cringe inducing. And people say American movies are nothing but propaganda
>saluting fellow braves
The Zulu didn't do that at Rorke's Drift and I can't find any evidence of them doing it at any other time. Can anyone find anything on it?
In reality, the Zulu ran away because the relief column arrived to save Rorke's Drift.
Put them to work. In the arms industry. What about other branches? For almost 10 years FDR, Tugwell and others did everything to make the unemployment rate as high as possible. Giving them shitty jobs, punishing farmers for too effective crops and so on.
Shit even during WWII unemployment rate went a little below 10%. That's not very impressive. Hoover and Roosevelt were intervening in labor markets, fixing wages etc.
Fall of Eagles:
A slow start, but a great source for following the pre and post world war I narrative.
Bismarck and Wilhelm II to Lenin and Franz Josef, all neatly humanized and made recognizable on the grand stage.
Patrick Stewart's Lenin steals the show imho.
Though if you want something more modern or to see how the Star Wars franchise squandered the talents of Ian McDiarmid, 37 days is for you.
Haven't watched Gods & Generals since it came out in theaters and my dumb kid self thought I would go see it. Is it actually good? I don't remember a thing about it aside from the atrocious video game they made out of it.
Complete coverage of the Julio Claudians from Augustus(played by BRIAN BLESSED) onward scrupulously researched and based around the writings of Tacitus, Plutarch, and Suetonius as contemporary historians.
While the conceit of the story of a heroic cripple emperor telling all may take liberties with the personalities in the history, (we cannot say given the sources) the events and chronology are rigorously accurate and the story is coherent.
Rome struggles to keep its identity as a king hating republic of the brave, but even in victory over MarcAntony the foundations are shaking; Agrippa the ambitious lieutenant, Livia the scheming queen in fact if not in name, her over-mothered son Tiberius who resents her, and the defeated and timid senate show in their secret ways the cracks in the Roman edifice even in the moment of its greatest triumph. Each in their full flower of evil are but a prelude as Rome becomes a truly despicable cauldron of poison under the mad Caligula and even more ambitious Sejanus (Patrick Stewart).
It's most powerful and unlikely leaders' cowardice, debauchery, naivite, and fear of disunity born of the very successes that empowered them ultimately produce a gripping and human tragedy that sadly ends with Claudius' reign before the year of the four emperors. Though it is clear that if Rome didn't die when Julius Caesar pronounced "alea iacta est", the death of Claudius before Nero's short reign was the end of the Julio Claudian emperors. All the rest were made by the praetorian guard as Claudius before them.
Follow up with reading Gibbon's History of the Rise and Fall of Rome if you are still interested.
>The Hurt Locker
>A gigantic .50 cal rifle gets jammed by BLOOD
>"yeah man that rifle is pretty intense just don't drip any blood in it!"
Marketa Lazarova Is always at the top of my list. Dealing with transition of Europe from paganism to Christianity, it explores the middle ages as well as the overall religious and social background in great detail through a gritty sometimes dreamlike lens, and on top of being one of the most beautifully shot films of all time. It's also challenging and high art, broken into sequences giving it an overall modernist structure, so watch it in the right mind set.
In the Heart of the Sea
>Call me Ishmael
Do you have any primary sources on how the Korean soldiers were dressed? I'll save you the trouble. There are none. So you thinking that Korean soldiers wore regular clothes with a big patch that says Water is just as historically inaccurate.
I never denied that the movie is historically inaccurate though comparing it to Braveheart is ridiculous and you know it. I'm not defending the movie. I think it's just an average action flick. But it's not the first time someone brought up the movie's prevalence of armors being "inaccurate" when Osprey's or whatever movie/drama/game you guys think is supposedly historically accurate are worse. If you look at actual paintings made by Koreans/Japanese within a hundred or so years of the war then there is much greater proof of normal Korean soldiers being armored than not.
So if you're gonna bring up the armors thing again you should at least have some sources ready to back up your statement.
Tldr version: tons of things to criticize about the movie but prevalence of armor is the least of them
Actually, if they had glossed over the war bit, and concentrated on the home front PTSD, it would have been a pretty good depiction of war from a woman's point of view, and the fallout they have to deal with. (Which, yes, pales in comparison to what the men have to deal with, but has an entirely different impact on the world.)
And it wasn't a terrible movie - just more emotional exposition than history, as one would expect from a woman.
>t. merchant mariner
Clever, you implied that being a mariner these days means you have accurate knowledge of how it was done in the past, when actually it's entirely different.
t. Merchant Navy Deck Officer
I really love Shakespeare, and Branagh is incredibly based, but I don't think you could ever call it historically accurate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikynTH9oJg8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM are eternally GOAT though.
I watched Zulu yesterday but i had to turn it off after two thirds of the film. I was getting too triggered by the inaccuracies of the portrayal of the battle at Rorke's drift.
>Zulus standing in the open, letting themselves get shot to "test" the firepower of the british.
>Zulus jumping over the perimeter wall at the first charge
>Witt staying at the station, being used for comic relief
>Jawdroppingly awful depictions of melee combat. People dying from having a bayonet stabbed into the air 3 feet next to them.
>Officers standing around and chilling outside the hospital while the perimeter is overrun by zulus in the background
Fucking amazing. So much detail crammed into every scene. Even stuff on screen for a few seconds. Most films/shows would just have a printed page slotted into some old book standing in as an illuminated manuscript. They had a real, what looked hand written and gilded page.
Thanks! Just want to make an observation though, that moonzund movie doesn't have any English subtitles
> 'Lo, there do I see my father.
> 'Lo, there do I see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers.
>'Lo, there do I see the line of my people...
>Back to the beginning.
>`Lo, they do call to me.
> They bid me take my place among them.
> In the halls of Valhalla...
> Where the brave...
Not a movie, but HBO's John Adams miniseries is pretty based.
Anyone here happen to know if pic related is any good or worth watching?
If were talking series, watch Hell on Wheels Based AMC on the Transcontinental Railroad