Guys, it's 2016. That means we can talk about 1991 now

As it turns out, command economies can work well when you're simply shoving peasants off of the fields and into factories, but when it comes to actually competing with an capitalist society, especially a capitalist society that has reached a post-industrial, heavily automated, service based economy, you don't have a chance in hell.

Gorbachev being a pussy.

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A system that routes too much complexity through too few people fails when traffic exceeds individual ability.

>>548154
the communists realise communism is too crappy to be implemented in populations over 20 people.

>>548189
Tell that to China

>>548701
China is a capitalist economy with a communist government.

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>>548701
we sure did champ.

we sure did

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>>548701
>china
>communist

>>548717
It begins...

>>548751
>china
>not communist

Westerners never understand

>>548762
您是中國人嗎?! How can you honestly believe China is communist? I've lived there and I've never seen such a hyper capitalistic, consumerist place. Not that I'm saying that's a bad thing, fuck communism. Taiwanese have more government welfare programs and public healthcare and education available to them than mainlanders. Having some heavy industrial concerns owned by the PLA doesn't make you socialist.

>>548189
This. I mean on paper it probably looked great since command economise are fairly common. They're called budgets and are used within a lot of companies.

But even handling a small company is a pain in the ass and unexpected costs fucks up your budget. This is common knowledge. Command economies won't work unless we have computers able to crunch the numbers. But by the time we have that we'll live in god knows what society since political scientists and sociologists will have computers strong enough to accurately emulate entire groups.

We're close to it. I mean we use the same programs people dealing with water movements use when we simulate how humans move when evacuating areas.

>>548154
>That means we can talk about 1991 now.
No, that means you can talk about 1990. Over 25 years = all of 1990.

>>548782
>But by the time we have that
1930. Soviet First 5 Year Plan. Done manually through commodity bundling and input-output tables.

In Russia, it was essentially a coup of the middle and upper classes against the entrenched military-bureaucratic alliance that had persisted since Stalin. While the planned economy was a failure precisely because it didn't service those in power effectively enough, the idea that communism imploded because of the economic troubles of the stagnation period is mostly false.

>>548779
You underestimate the amount of control the party has over that hyper capitalism. Sure it is a volatile, consumerist economy, but it is being carefully managed by communist regime.

>>548717
>>548751

> China
> Not a command economy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yQjGZ482l8