Which is more moral? A minority suffering grevous pain and misfortune

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>>546988
>morality
Am I in the majority or in the minority?

>>546988
majority being slightly worse

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minority suffering grievous pain

remove the minority and everyone can live happily forever after

deporting the minority

>>546988
From the sound of it, the majority being slightly worse off for the extreme benefit of the minority. From an utilitarian (ie real and scientific, read Sam Harris) point of view.

destroy ethicist thought experiments

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>>547016
>Sam Harris
>real and scientific
>utlilitarian

>>546988
depends on your point of view

Peter Singer: When we have the possibility to lessen human suffering without giving up something of comparable moral value, we have to do so.

The majority would even have to worsen their own condition themselves if it lessens the suffering of the minority, at least to some degree.

>>547012
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if they are in our country we can't enslave them for cheap sweatshop labor

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>>547114
>if they are in our country we can't enslave them for cheap sweatshop labor

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>>546988

> Which is more moral?

Neither.

Every person's moral decision-making must be aimed at allowing for every other person the same degree of moral decision-making.

For humans, the goal of ethics is not to maximize or distribute pleasures; the goal of ethics is to maximize and coordinate autonomy by respecting it in ourselves and in others.

- K.

I'd say the second

Ex.
Would you rather every working American pay $1 per year to keep a 1000 people from off the streets (via homeless shelter). Or not pay $1 per year and let 1000 people become homeless and suffer?

The benefit is extreme and the loss is very minimal.

>>546988
congrats, you just stumbled upon the deontology vs utilitarianism conflict

Depends on what the benefit or cost is, and how big the minority is.

>>547228
Lets work with these variables
5-30% of the population

>>546988
>quanitity over quality
morality doesn't work like that, you materialist.

the cause of the suffering must be considered as well.