Does anyone have examples from history when ordinary people encountered something that would have been entirely unknown and terrifying to them (with accounts if possible). For example, I imagine an ordinary legionnaire encountering elephants at the battle of Asculum for the first time would have been fucking terrifying - they would have literally seemed like monsters.
Imagine encountering gunpowder for the first time, you'd have literally no frame of reference through which you could conceive firearms, it must have seemed like magic. I mean, even if we got invaded by a super advanced alien race, we'd still be able to conceptualise their weaponry as 'a more advanced gun'. The Aztecs wouldn't have been able to at all.
Naked fanatics - fast, brutal, and naked
Immortals - heavy infantry that just never actually dies (except in the case of the 300 and Alexander)
The Japanese - suicidal zerg rushers
Vikings - to warriors, they might not be all that scary but chances are if you are fucked by them you are a member of the clergy in a church which is basically the only "safe zone" at the time
Machine guns - remember those legendary pre-gunpowder age warriors that train all their lives to be the most brutal and effective warriors under the sun? well they're all dead
Horses were fucking horrifying to aztecs when they first saw them in the field. Prior to that, they only saw them trying to move on paved city streets, and though they were pathetic.
>you'd have literally no frame of reference through which you could conceive firearms, it must have seemed like magic.
...or it just seems like what it is. An exceptionally advanced ranged weapon. They absolutely had a frame of reference for them
>Naked fanatics - fast, brutal, and naked
Not anymore than the other celts were.
Maybe BEFORE they got showered with javelins.
>Immortals - heavy infantry that just never actually dies (except in the case of the 300 and Alexander)
Could you please not post on this board?
We're not on /k/. Read for a bit, then come back.
Let me tear this apart and call you a faggot.
They may or may not have had scale vests. There's currently no evidence for ANY persian on foot wearing a helmet.
No, fuckfuce. The name refers to the fact that after the battle, more men would INSTANTLY be put back in the ranks to bring the unit up to strength.
If you didn't have any Persian-speakers in your army, you'd never know their name, and certainly wouldn't think to call them immortals. They'd just be very brave spearmen, and their perceived quality and quality of arms would vary depending on how your own people fought.
The greeks in particular found them to be brave and skilled, but armed so poorly that they may as well have no fought at all.
>Machine guns - remember those legendary pre-gunpowder age warriors that train all their lives to be the most brutal and effective warriors under the sun? well they're all dead
Men of that stripe literally never encountered machine guns.
I'd disagree with you on the Aztecs having a frame of reference for firearms. There's lots of historical records of those encountering firearms for the first time panicking and thinking they were 'magic'
>The Russians won the victory thanks to their use of firearms unknown to the Tatars, who thought the firearms were some kind of magic and fled.
>"The Iroquois were much astonished that two men should have been killed so quickly, although they were provided with shields made of cotton thread woven together and wood, which were proof against their arrows. This frightened them greatly. As I was reloading my arquebus, one of my companions fired a shot from within the woods, which as-tonished them again so much that, seeing their chiefs dead, they lost courage and took to flight"
I'm sure the mystery and terror around them wore off with increased exposure, but this thread is about ordinary people encountering things for the first time.
When the mongols faced war elephants for the first time in India. The horses were panicked so the Mongols simply got off their horses and rained arrows on the war elephants until they run amok their own army. Fucking mongols, slanty eyed fuckers always found a way. They were probably scared as fuck, but still managed to defeat a much larger army with war elephants... on foot.
>always found away
The mongols thrived because there were noone else worth a damn during their time. Rome in their prime would have slaughtered those fuckers, stop glorifying them. Woah, damn, they beat some barbarians that managed to tame a huge animal, goddamn.
>Horses were fucking horrifying to aztecs when they first saw them in the field. Prior to that, they only saw them trying to move on paved city streets, and though they were pathetic.
yeah horses arent that scary
untill theres 40 of them trying to run you down
I didn't say anything about a thought pattern, it's a fact that they function on completely different principles, the bow functions on a principle that is intuitive, that we use by instinct from when we are babies, the other completely alien and something we didn't originally have a frame of reference for. It was another anon that argued that would freak them out, I'm just saying that it's totally valid to call it alien, cause it definitely was.
>woah, huns, greatest ever
i tought we where talking about mongols tho
no one said greatest ever, anon if you cant accept that the mongols where one of the greats then tough shit
and the huns did fuck over rome (not single handedly but they played a big part)
>the Tatars, who thought the firearms were some kind of magic and fled.
To be fair, this is probably conjecture on the part of whoever they wrote that. The Tatars might have just simply routed in the face of superior weaponry without needing to rationalise it as "magic".
That one guy who was at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
That's the thing about romans. Because the armies were almost always delegated to nobles and patricians, it's a crapshoot whether they had any military talent.
I can't remember the names, but when the republic was being invaded by a shit ton of Germans, the first two consuls got fucking rekted into oblivion, but when gaius marius campaigned against them the germans didn't even give him a real fight.
>Korean who was conscripted by the Japs
>captured by the Russians in the Battles of Khalkhin Gol.
>was then conscripted and fought against the Krauts.
>who in-turn captured him and he was conscripted again and sent to Normandy
>where he was captured on D-day to the bemusement of Allied soldiers
Claudius brought African elephants to Britain around 100AD. Cattle at that time was quite small so the largest mammal the celts would have seen is an Irish Elk. Had an impact because elephants remained in Medieval literature and iconography in Britain for some time.
There must have been a few occasions when ordinary people during WWI got freaked the fuck out by soldiers in gas masks. Maybe not quite no frame of reference freaked, but they look kind of scary even now.
>Dr. Livingstone, I presume.
Dude got lost on an expedition. Was presumed dead. Blacks found him and thought he was a funny looking animal of some sort. Kept him in a cage until another white guy found him.
>implying they wouldn't come down and party on fag world, and love it so much they allow babies to be born from our butts
We've always had the ability but when they first planted the seeds of our genes they kept our true butt birth potential locked down and hidden away.
none of the people vikings raided even mentioned any berserkers and trust me something like that would catch attention Celts for example were noted for fighting in frienzed state hell even wearing bearskins alone would be mentioned but no it wasn't
berserkers didn't exist kid
>Are there any diaries of Australian colonizers? I wonder how would they describe the animals and insects living there
L. A. Gilbert, 'Banks, Sir Joseph (1743–1820)', Australian Dictionary of Biography, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/banks-sir-joseph-1737/text1917, published first in hardcopy 1966, accessed online 14 January 2016.
This article was first published in hardcopy in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 1, (MUP), 1966
Machine guns and "modern" artillery had been used before that. The commanders that did that shit knew full well what the effect would be, but they just wanted their victory for personal prestige.
Istanbul true Rum, faggot
>Rome fought against barbarians who wore pants
You think its so easy to walk into a huge forest, find barbarian encampment, kill their vicious warriors and rape their women?
Even fucking britons had trouble vs niggers. And they had guns.
Walking into a forest with a professionaly trained army that wears much better equipment then it's barbarian counterparts to beat those said barbarians is totally difficult guys!
Battle of Teutoburg Forest: Never Forget!