>>540214 It may or may not be a real quote. It first appeared in Ronald Kessler's book in 1996, obviously substantially later than LBJ's presidency. We'll never know if it was actually authentic.
LBJ definitely used "nigger," there are plenty of well-authenticated examples of that. But the quote, as Kessler described it, was said in the company of two Southern governors - that is, southern Democrats who were probably not big fans of civil rights. (I'm not sure what "like minded" means in this context - that they were all Democrats? Like-minded about what? And "confided" sounds like a value judgment, making it sound sneaky and conspiratorial without any basis.)
One thing LBJ was really good at was molding himself to work over other people; he could be overbearing and intimidating, or he could flatter and suck up to people, even as the president, if he thought that was the best way to get them to do what he wanted. Saying "hey you guys know I'm just doing all this to get the niggers to vote for us right" in a private meeting with two southern Democrats is completely in line with how LBJ did politics.
It's kind of funny that we are constantly calling politicians slippery liars, yet with quotes like this one people seem to automatically believe it is a full, honest portrayal of the politician's soul. Biographers and scholars of LBJ generally agree that he had a lot of sympathy for American blacks and was genuinely supportive of civil rights, and it's much more likely that this quote - if it was actually said - was him attempting to buddy up to some Southern good ol' boys rather than a true confession of his political aims.
>>540441 Maybe. But as Senate Majority Leader he killed every Civil Rights Bill Ike sent to Congress. Almost all of Ike's bills were indistinguishable from the 1964 Bill. LBJ was a crafty mofo who was just smart enough to know which way the political winds were shifting later on.
>>540452 Whatever man. If you want to believe that a single possibly-authentic quote first mentioned 30 years after his presidency totally reveals a life-long conspiracy and obviously outweighs his entire career and all the statements of LBJ himself and the people who knew him regarding his views on civil rights, I don't think anything anyone posts is going to change your mind.
A buddy of mine went with his father to the Brazoria county fairgrounds for a political bbq. He was in his early teens at the time. Charlie went to the men's and was standing at the trough pissing when someone else walked in. He dismissed it as just another adult. The guy stood next to him and was also pissing when he offered his hand with the words, "HI, I'm Lyndon Johnson. What's your name?' Johnson was Vice President at the time. Charlie told him and went back to his father. A short time later one of Johnson's aids approached and asked for the young man's name and address. His father suspiciously wanted to know why, and the aide said that the Vice President had met the boy and wanted to send him a Christmas card. Charlie got a Christmas card from Lyndon Johnson every year till Johnson died.
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