what is /his/ opinion on Saladin ?
Islam wasn't a new religion. It was new revelation on the old religion. The books we know as the Bible weren't canonized yet, and many people knew of Jesus from many different, and sometimes conflicting, sources. Islam venerates the writings in the Jewish Old Testament and even Jesus. It sees itself as a continuation of those old teachings. It probably borrows much of its theology from Arianism, which was a Christian doctrine. Furthermore, Mohammedans regard Jews and Christians as a different type of infidel than pagans and those of other religions.
I mean, you could say that schismatics are not part of the religion. In that sense, you would have to say that Arianism, Nestorianism, Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Hussites, Protestant, Reformed, and Mormon churches are all distinct religions. You would also have to say that Judaism of today is a different religion than Old Testament Judaism due to the fact that the Pharisees oversaw a transition of Judaism from the Priestly Judaism to Rabbinical Judaism and, more specifically, Judaism of the Talmud rather than the Torah. You would also have to say that the Sunni, Shia, Sufi, and whatever other rethinkings of Islam are different religions. Schismatics are regarded as virtually nobody as separate religions.
>inb4 I get called out on the Hussites
Last I checked, the Moravian church was the modern Hussite church and were not in communion with the Pope.
He was respectful to King Richard the Lionheart, but I do not know how he treat usual people.
Seems, spirit and meaning of islam was very modified from days of Saladin to this day.
>Under Saladin's personal leadership, the Ayyubid army defeated the Crusaders at the decisive Battle of Hattin in 1187, leading the way to the Muslims' re-capture of Palestine from the Crusaders who had conquered it 88 years earlier. Though the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem would continue to exist for an extended period, its defeat at Hattin marked a turning point in its conflict with the Muslim powers of the region.
A man who is today revered by such a multitude of demographics that it really speaks to his character. How many figures are there, really, who've inspired the admiration of both Christians and Muslims alike?
>he has the admiration of christians becuz a movie I saw
Overrated because the Crusaders wanted to make it look like someone special beat them. Basically, he was an opportunist who took advantage of the Fatimid collapse and the weakness of the Crusaders but failed to build anything enduring and the Ayyubids got BTFO just like everyone else did in the 13th c.
A pretty exceptional tactician and state-builder. A smart dictator, which is good because that's the best you could do in the 14th century - most everywhere else were run by incompetent dictators.
Limbo. Not Purgatory. Purgatory is where Christians who have sins left to expiate have to go to before getting to heaven (in Roman Catholicism). Limbo is where virtuous pagans go, and yes, Saladin was there. So were Averroes and Aristotle.
Mohammed, on the other hand...he didn't fly so good.
Ah, yeah, limbo was what I was looking for. Like I said, Mohammad is still characterised as a schismatic (which is considered even worse) rather than a heretic, which is interesting.
I read Dante had read Muhammad was a cardinal who got butthurt that he wasn't elected as Pope and so broke off to form his own sect, but I'm not sure how true that is.
Dante gave the shaft to two popes as well. In fact, Dante was in exile from Florence not supporting the Pope.
His work is greatly inspired by theology, but it's still fanciful. The idea that Julius Caesar (who is also in limbo--Brutus is of course at the very depths with Judas) could be considered remotely virtuous in a Christian sense pretty much attests to that.
I'm Orthodox, and we, being classified as "schismatics", sure as hell didn't fare well in Dante's work, you don't see me whining about it.
medieval christians believed some weird stuff about islam, i'm pretty sure they would have considered them pagan, going from this: