What does /his/ think of Austria-Hungary's role during the First World War? Do you think they contributed to the Central Powers or not? I'm really interested in hearing your opinion on this.
They suffered a similar fuckup as Germans in the beginning, name had to suddenly redeploy divisions from Balkans to Russia.
However how they held the frontline in the Alps, consistently outnumbered against Italy is commendable.
They got absolutely BTFO by Serbs initially, until Potiorek got replaced and Germans stepped into the fray.
Hungary ruined it because they refused to recognize Croatia and treated non Hungarians harshly
Their leadership, notably Conrad von Hotzendorf, proved incompetent at times.
>being wrecked in Italy
Italy had only front and couldn't manage a breakthrough until AH was collapsing.
Get a load of this bullshit.
Kingdom of Croatia for example, was an autonomous, separate administrative unit with it's representatives in Austrian parliament.
It was the rapid rise of Hungarian nationalism (A direct response to Germanization) that decentralized and ultimately broke the state down.
This is probably one of my biggest history related laments. I bitch about Hungary's shit luck throughout history but we made our bed, and our poor fortune only made us bigger assholes. We should have spent our existence cultivating good relations with our neighbors instead of messing with them.
Austria Hungary was a ticking time bomb. TBQH HItler was totally right about it.
I say that unironically.
How could the clusterfuck of pic related even expect to unify and fight and not blow up internally.
If none of you have read Mein Kampf I'll just summarize briefly.
Habsburg empire expands east and gains control over non-german nations.
This is good for the habsburg monarchy because of increased wealth power and prestige.
This is also during a time of nationslism and democracy.
The Germans living in Austria-hungary want different things than hungarians and other smaller groups.
The habsburgs attempt to ease tensins by giving more power to minorities and take it away from germans.
They ally with German empire, a natural ally, and appear to be very strong but internally Habsburgs barely have control.
HItler sees why Monarchy fails the right wing. Normally Monarchy works because the king's best interest are inline with the nations best interest. Eventually though the king's best interest will be dfferent than the nations. In this case the Habsburgs needed a multicultural empire but german austrians felt betrayed and slavs and serbs and hungarians felt the same way. When the war broke out the empire just collapsed.
But thats why Fascism rejects monarchy.
>legit historical source
In reality there were no serious secession movements right until ~1916 and the empire was certainly not in a state of "barely controlled" or in any kind of decline at all, this is all post-war little entente rhetoric to justify their massive territorial gains and to establich an easily understandable narrative of decline - > collapse - > partition.
Anyway your whole post is plain bullshit.
Habsburg Empire expanded way before the age of nationalism, during the 1500s-1600s.
>The Germans living in Austria-hungary want different things than hungarians and other smaller groups.
The nations themselves couldn't give less shit, it was all a power game of the political groups - the habsburg dynasty, hungarian and croatian nobles and intellectuals of other minorities.
Hitler was surprisingly right about a few things.
For example, he also stated that in a democracy the probability of getting a politician that works in the public interest is low, and that's why Fascism was needed, to him.
But anyway, back to the topic: Austria-Hungary was indeed a cluster-fuck of nations and people that couldn't agree,
I think that's why they wanted to annex Serbia in 1914, in order to exercise the control the monarchy felt it was lacking.
never, it was an anachronism in the 19th century already, no need to revive it now or ever
>the probability of getting a politician that works in the public interest is low, and that's why Fascism was needed
>Hitler was surprisingly right about a few things.
uhhh, read that again and consider what you wrote
I didn't say that Hitler was the guy that could save everybody.
But he was right in saying that a lot (but not all) of democratic politicians only work in their own interest and not the public's.
The Archduke got rekted