Good and evil definitely exists, but only in the human sphere. Eventually one must transcend all duality to a place where good and evil are replaced with beneficial and deleterious, wholesome and unwholesome, truth and error, etc.
>>523538 >People who slam the word subjective, have never really taken a basic philosophy course. There is intrinsic good. Prove it then. Shouldn't be too hard, just a syllogism or two since it's basic phil.
>>524259 >>524321 living in harmony with oneself and society. the way of being produced by mindfulness, detachment, and the extinguishing of unwholesome states. living life in accordance with a transcendent principle. the quality of a liberated mind that is not beholden to sensuality or other neurotic complexes. Eudaimonia. Following the Tao. Enlightenment. Spiritual growth. Self-knowledge. Producing the Gold of the alchemists. The list goes on and on and on.
>>524401 >posting on a history and humanities board >doesn't know what eudaimonia is
Fine: when you take care of your shit and live for something higher than securing your animal comforts the good reveals itself clear as day. But what do you expect from autists who think you have to logic the good into existence instead before they're allowed to experience it
>>524365 >Pick one of mindfulness, detachment, extinguishing of unwholesome states, transcendence, Eudaimonia, Tao, Enlightenment, Spiritual Growth, Self-knowledge, Alchemylol, New Age hippy shit, et cetera
Sounds pretty subjective and half-assed m8.
Also privileges "Harmony" as an assumed good when it's pretty clear some people just want chaos. It really is like you picked up The New Age Thesaurus and just listed a bunch of random entries.
>>524420 >Complaining about autistic logic >Thinks throwing out a truck load of phrases constitutes an explaination
Have a quote or you just gonna throw books at me instead of demonstrating any understanding of the words you type?
>among many, many other text >All of which I read of course, unlike your midget minded self You sound like a fucking hipster. You've been tasked with demonstrating "intrinsic good" and instead you've only engaged in some pathetic dick waving. Try an argument, or even a description.
>>524484 A detached, objective, systematic observation of one's consciousness eventually leads to the elimination of neurotic and otherwise harmful mental patterns, which loosens the ego's grip over the mind and leads to an unshakeable, expanded awareness that is universal across religions and is associated with qualities we call good.
In other words if you face up to and conquer the shit that bothers you deep inside, you're not as insecure and afraid anymore and the natural radiance of your mind shines forth. You literally can't tell me there's no evidence because I and millions of others have experienced it for ourselves
>>524524 Not that anon, but are you suggesting that your brain can't be 'over-clocked' like with hypo-mania and mania (crazy about of neurotransmitters or some shit maybe), shit can literally be epiphanies and euphoric as fuck, 1 week can feel like months.
>>524517 Are you suggesting that no crazy dictators etc have ever had a similar experience?
>>524517 >>524529 >"A detached, objective, systematic observation of one's consciousness eventually leads to the elimination of neurotic and otherwise harmful mental patterns" >"elimination of neurotic and otherwise harmful mental patterns" >"because I and millions of others have experienced it " >"This is what you get when you try to level with autists"
>>524536 Yes, I am, because a crazy dictator is not observing his thought processes as a detached observer. If he did, he wouldn't be a crazy dictator. We're not even taking about spiritual ecstasy. That shit is a hindrance on the path.
We're talking about perfecting yourself as a human being as far as it is in your capacity to do so. Theism, the Christian God, all that trash has nothing to do with this. That shits for plebs still waiting for salvation to come from outside themselves
>>524517 Funny, my impression of eudaimonia was more of a Virtue Ethics thing where it was a state of "happiness" or "fulfillment" that coincides with alignment with objective virtues that lie outside of oneself and has relatively little to do with personal self-improvement.
In short, more of a society oriented thing than an individual "conquer your own shit" thing. The degree to which eudaimonia has to do with your own improvement is incidental at best, only relevant in the assumption that what's good for the goose is good for the gander so-to-speak.
Also, as an aside, the Greeks didn't really have any problem with "ego". In no way would eudaimonia from embodying virtues entail a loosening of "ego". Not too sure that the case would've changed for the modern usage of the term either.
Anyhow, it sounds like you've misappropriated the word to me.
>For the basis of what I'm taking Eudaimonia to mean see: >http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-virtue/
>>524570 >thousands of years of wisdom writings You really ought to stop conflating different cultural ideas, it isn't all "the same stuff" and that's why I say you sound like a New Age Hipster.
like first poster said it never meant anything. Its been subjective since we created the concept, and the more specific the subject is the harder it is to place it in a good/bad category. Murder is easy, things like arbotion, gay marriage blah blah all subjective
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