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What must have been going through the minds of the first Gaijin to meet the fierce but honorable Nihonjin (and vice versa)?
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>>516505
"Look son, Barbarians."

Since, you know, the first Gaijin (meaning Foreigner) to meet Japan were the Ancient Chinese and the Koreans. Who both had a low opinion on the tribes who dwelt there.
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>>516505
"Hey look there are still retards that use swords"
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Probably

"Holy shit, look how short these little fuckers are. And why are they wearing dresses?"
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>>516516
>Hey look there are still retards that use swords
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>>516555
For main combat rather than a gun.
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>>516570
The first westerners arrived in Japan in the late 16th century.
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>>516586
Yes but we had archaic firearms at that time.
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I bet it was like morrowind
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>>516589
It's not like they didn't see the value. The japanese took to firearms extremely quickly.
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>>516589
Alongside more archaic weapons such as crossbows and pikes. Japanese tactics wouldn't have seemed particularly archaic to a 16th century European. Plus the Japanese developed pike-and-shot formations themselves once they adopted the musket.
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>>516589

And swords.
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>>516598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ST1wRzfgmI
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>>516505
"I bet I could sell these guys something."
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>>516589
>Yes but we had archaic firearms at that time.
so did the japs
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>>516614
Quite an obviously expectable outcome, given the weight and maneuverability of the weapons
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>>516505
samurais, ninjas and vikings are meme shit.
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You know, you don't have to ask an anonymous Chinese cartoon board.

They wrote about it extensively.
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Iwakura Mission report from 1871 used to be posted on /int/ with first impressions by Nips travelling around Europe.
Lots of stuff like how they viewed their neighbhours, what their major exports and imports were, how the countryside/city was and cultural notions like how North and Central Europeans considered keeping their bloodlines pure important.
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>>516596
Unlike the Chinese, who never used pikes in the early modern period.
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>>516849
oh i remember that one, i remember one of the ambassador talked with bismarck during his visit in germany


>tfw the foolz archive is lost forever
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>>516614
Well that's just sad.
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>>516514
>Since, you know, the first Gaijin (meaning Foreigner) to meet Japan were the Ancient Chinese and the Koreans. Who both had a low opinion on the tribes who dwelt there

Silly island dwarves thinking they matter.
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They loved the Dutch is all I know
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>>516598
>"""Superior""" nihon playing dirty to defeat gaijin
Pissed me off desu. Also the comment about the rapier being made of inferior metal to katanas.
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>>516849
Where can someone read this online in English?
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>>516614
Given how light the fencing foil is and the greater reach of a one handed sword thats not impressive, particularly because the fencer receives a hit that would split his head open less than a second after landing his hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WoYNb6lr94&list=PLs2MdELJ2tstlllG6DIMLmbHMzelHlaIw&index=2

Now this example isn't much better, so lets go to primary sources

http://www.tameshigiri.ca/2014/05/07/european-vs-japanese-swordsmen-historical-encounters-in-the-16th-19th-centuries/
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