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Why are they so dickrided? They were complete failures and even behaved more like bandits than knights. Was there any non shit knight order anyway?
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>>511974
Teuton wankery is a Germanophiliac meme.
>Was there any non shit knight order anyway?
Hospitaller?
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>>511974
The paladins of the order of St. george
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They were failures, but the Pollack / Lithuanian / Russian view of them as pure evil is the same magnitude of idiocy.
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>>511974
>Was there any non shit knight order anyway?
Knights Malta.
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>>512063
>be fresh christian nation
>invite german settlers because they are well behaved and work hard
>works very good
>invite the teutonic order aswell
>they try the same shit as they did in poland
>scheming for more rights
>attempt to appeal the pope so they can get their dirty hands on the land
>have none of that

disgusting greedy and ungrateful brats using religion as a disguise
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>>511974
TEMPLARS
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>>512063
they had no redeeming qualities aside from looking cool
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>>511974
>Why are they so dickrided?
Because they were both brutal and successful.
They also looked really really cool.

>They were complete failures
What? No they weren't.
Militarily, they created a state based on conquest that lasted for almost 300 years, 200 of those were solid expansion.
Culturally, they succeeded in both Germanising and Christianising the conquered provinces.
Economically, they succeeded in a large scale immigration, trade flourished because of the presence of the Hansa, Novgorod and the Dutch.
Politically, they were ruthless backstabbing power-hungry maniacs. Maintaining an order of that size for so long is also impressive.
Architecturally, they built over a hundred castles.

>behaved more like bandits than knights.
I won't be able to defend this one, you're right.

>Was there any non shit knight order anyway?
All of them were great, from the Order of Saint Anthony to the Knights of Saint Mary and even the Muslim holy orders. The Order of Saint John/Knights Hospitaller will always be the GOAT though.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Cross_with_the_Red_Star
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>>511974
>Was there any non shit knight order anyway?
Templars.
Knights Hospitaller
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>>512086
>successful
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>>512101
What? They weren't destroyed and simply morphed into Prussia.
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>>512101
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
gj
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>>511974
>complete failures

No? They invaded and germanized the Baltics and part of Poland, something that lasted until ww2. I wouldn't consider that a failure by any means
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>>511974
That amour/colours though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZPgGbUuX0
This has to be the worst propaganda film ever made, since it made like the Teutonic Order more than the Slavics.
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>>512101
>>successful
That's a broad concept. What do you define it by.
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>>512070
t. Someone from Malta
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>>512248
Knights of Malta = hospitallers
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>>512063

hello reddit
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>>512302
Hello Szczszczski
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>>512232
>film made by a Jew
>in a communist Russia
>portrays the Teutonic Knights as evil nazis wearing swastikas on their armor
>the common boyars in Pskov are basically kulaks
>Germans are PURE EVIL guys, worse than the Mongols!
>portrays what was likely a minor skirminsh (Battle of the Ice) as something epic straight out of Tolkien

Communists, not even once
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>>511974
ÜMERA NEVR FORGET
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>>512308

>reddit reading comprehension

hello reddit
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>>512347
>>512302

Mad.
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>>512353
Reddit.
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>>512258
t. Someone from the hospital
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>>512063
Not polack but they had literally did nothing good (unless you're German)
They were supposed to leave after northern crusade to join crusades in south, but they became greedy and started to kill fellow Christians (Orthodox as well as Catholic) which started to destroy legitimacy of entire religion. Sure they looked cool, but they were cunts.
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>>512510
>brought civilization to the Baltics
>not good

Kekaroo
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>>512426

>using mad in the current year

hello reddit
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>>512565

woops

>>512353
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>>512570
>>512565
Thanks for the free (You)
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>failures

What do you mean with that? Was the Roman Empire a failure as well? They were highly successful for a long time until they got gutted hard at Tannenberg and while they became very irrelevant after that for a while they ultimately became the entity that is known as "Prussia". Not bad for a bunch of failures I'd say.

Also; a lot of the shit like "Knightly codes" and shit were only invented long after the medieval ages. Knights back then were just mounted nobility trained from birth to be super soldiers, nothing more. People at the time looked up to knights because they dominated warfare for centuries, not because of them doing shit like "protecting the poor 'n innocent 'n shietz"
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>>512519
>brought civilization to the Baltics
the Polish and Slavs did that more than the Teutons.
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>>512623
other slavs**
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>>511974

they werent failures at all, and what do you expect a conquering midieval armed force to behave as, UNPROFOR?

its like you have some unironicaly biased ideas on what military orders like that were about
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who were the teuton knights actualy, as in what was the backround of the average knight, germans, franks, veteran crusaders, what?
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>>512641
Most of the regular brothers were usually knights from Germany, the biggest number came from Franconia.
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>>511974
The Teutonic Order built up one of the most civilised and advanced states in Europe at that time. Everyone who visited the state of the Order was amazed by their postal system.
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>>512510
There's a pretty obvious line between "they were shitty opportunists and pretty much bandits" and "they were literally proto-Hitlers and the servants of Satan".
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>>512666
Devil trips confirm.
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BE A TEUTONIC KNIGHT
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>>512641
People from all over the place, from the Frisians to Bohemians, they weren't exclusively German.

As for settlement:

>To make up for losses from the plague and to replace the partially exterminated native population, the Order encouraged the immigration of colonists from the Holy Roman Empire (mostly Germans, Flemish, and Dutch) and from Masovia (Poles), the later Masurians. The colonists included nobles, burghers, and peasants, and the surviving Old Prussians were gradually assimilated through Germanization. The settlers founded numerous towns and cities on former Prussian settlements. The Order itself built a number of castles (Ordensburgen) from which it could defeat uprisings of Old Prussians, as well as continue its attacks on the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland, with which the Order was often at war during the 14th and 15th centuries. Major towns founded by the Order included Allenstein (Olsztyn), Elbing (Elbląg), Klaipėda (Memel), and Königsberg, founded in 1255 in honor of King Otakar II of Bohemia on the site of a destroyed Prussian settlement.
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>>512698
There were many Slavs in the Teutonic Order ranks. See >>512707
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>>512698
They didn't get rekt nigger. They lost a couple battles because they were either outnumbered and in some cases had poor leadership as was the case at tannenberg
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>>511974
>non shit knight order

How about the Knights of St. Lazarus?
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>>512715
Not to mention that the siege of Marienburg is always conveniently ignored: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Marienburg_%281410%29
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>>512721
>few more days needed to destroy the teuton menace
>lets go back to poland

FUCKING NOBLES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>512715
GRUNWALD BATTLE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
>NOT GETTING REKT
>YET REKT THEY WERE
THEY WERE SHIT TIER SHIT
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>>512810
t. Pyotr Barbosa
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>>512810

Jesus, how can someone hold such hatred towards half a millennium old Knight order? Did they murder all of your super-distant ancestors or what? Did you lose against people playing the Teutonic Order in your favourite video game?
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>>512735
Malbork was unsiegable at the time m8, the way it eventually fell was the Polish king just paying the angry unpaid mercenaries manning it.
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>>512902
Nothing to see her, just the eternal p*le being butthurt as usual.
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>>511974
They were successful as fuck though. Even when they failed they formed a secularized state that would create the framework for modern Germany.
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>>512076
Looking cool is the only obligation you have in 1200. Beyond that you are just supposed to pillage and rape things.

pic unrelated, not stop option
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>>513309
The Kingdom of Prussia was created by Brandenburg.
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>>513147

This. Marienburg/Malbork was the largest castle in the world (and still is FYI) and its defenses were state of art. The primitive cannons of the time wouldn't have been able to smash the walls, especially considering the Poles were lacking in ammunition.

Also by the time the attackers arrived they stockpiled so much food starving them out would have taken extremely long. Considering the logistics back then it's even likely to assume the attackers would have been starved out before the defenders since the Poles had to take a fuckhuge army with them.
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They were all great. Don't believe prottie propaganda
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>>513309
so successful that their own peasants rebelled against them and asked polish king to introduce polish laws and annex them
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>>514957
samurai could beat them all
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>>513177

>using butthurt in the current year

hello reddit
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>>513177
but Poles rekt them Hans and so did Ruskies
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>>516898
>battle of the ice
>an actual thing
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>>512101
Yes, successful.
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>>512086
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