>Brit conservatives hate him because he sold the Empire off for a song and because Gallipoli
>socialists hate him because of economic policies
>leftists hate him because muh colonalism muh racism
>Euro nationalists hate him because Dresden
>Americans don't like him because drunk banter
>the French hate him because he cucked CDG
>even Jews hate him because White Paper
Why the fuck is Churchill seen as a popular figure? For giving a couple of speeches on the radio?
Basically because he was the figurehead of Britain while it won WWII. Had the war not occurred, he would have been reviled. Had he lost the war, the public would have hung him in the streets.
But how did he go from "drunk incompetent asshole with some redeeming qualities who was in the right place in the right time", to one of the people brought up in every list of greatest modern leaders?
Isn't it a republican neocon thing for the most part? I remember George W Bush got his bust in the White House, and one of the first things Obama did was to remove it and replace it with Lincoln.
Because there actually is such a thing as moral leadership and strength of spirit, and Churchill did a good job providing it when Britain needed it most.
Same with King George. Britain always seems to have great leaders ride to its rescue.
I wonder if this isn't deep down a reason why the Brits still have a soft spot for him. I've always suspected that, despite their current chumminess, deep down they still don't like the French and never will.
Because before resigning from office Chamberlain was seriously considering surrendering to the Nazis. Had that happened the Nazis would have almost certainly won. From the day Churchill came in he knew that this was a war he was going to fight till the end and never once strayed from that idea. He had an iron will and guided the British people to the defeat of the Nazis. His speeches were firm, striking, motivating, honest and exactly what the British people needed. I'm sure a lot of people here can recite the peroration of at least one of his speeches.
We shall go onto the end....
If Chamberlain had surrendered, the Brits would have retained their Empire and be relatively independent (plus Germany would be diplomatically favorable to them). Instead, they lost the Empire, got chained down by the EU, and pretty soon there won't even be Britons living in Britain. Nice one Churchill.
He was gassed the Kurds when they rebelled against British rule
>"I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes... it would spread a lively terror."
Winston Churchill: literally Saddam Hussein
>Had that happened the Nazis would have almost certainly won.
The Soviets literally carried WW2. The Red Army was responsible for something like 80% of German military casualties. I can't abide any theory that provides an instrumental role for any of the other allies, who provided marginal support and logistical roles, at best.
He should have been tried both as a traitor, for pushing his country to a war of choice and compromising its imperial assets, and as a war criminal.
Say what you will about Hitler and Stalin, at least they did their deeds as patriots. Churchill was a low cunning backstabber.
Yeah but you forgot how many German forces were bound by the presence of a fighting British Empire in the West (similar to the huge armies the German deployed in nothern Germany during WWI to prevent an invasion). And I say this as someone 50% who is Russian and who likes to point out that more Russians died at Leningrad than American in the whole war.
Clearly know nothing about Churchills political career. Churchill advocated war during the Nazis march into the Sudetenland to prevent the Skoda factory falling into their hands. The war would have been decisive and without much bloodshed, leaving a strong Europe to resist the soviets. Chamberlain literally allowed WW2 to happen and may have been a marxist himself.
as a Fleming I can understand the undercurrent of suspicion of and hate for the french
if he had taken the german peace offer then We'd be an independent state (but probably a puppet when it comes to external relations). And at very least rid of those god damned walloon half french bastards.