WW1 Helmets

Cause they look cool. I think it was the French Adrian helmet that offered the best protection. Brit helmet was shit tier.

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>>506007
Because they based them off the medieval sallet helmets

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>>506060
While the Brits based theirs off the their kettle hats

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>>506071
And the French off their Napoleonic helmets

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Americans had a similar helmet design but decided it looked "too german"

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>>506095

>>506036
The stahlhelm gave the best coverage and was the thickest. However, it was also significantly heavier than both the Adrian and Brodie. The Adrian was the thinnest, but was also the lightest. The Brodie was somewhere in between, but its coverage was theoretically lower than either, though in most practical situations this was not the case.

>>506082
i thought it was a firemans helmet

>>506095
That's important when you want to avoid friendly fire.

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>>506095
The Liberty Bell helmet is a little interesting, it was abandoned because the troops testing it hated it not because it was uncomfortable or ineffective, but because they hated the way it looked and refused to wear it. Apparently it bore too much resemblance to Chinese fishermen hats according to troops.

did any nation issue helmets to their troops at the start of the war, or did they come later?

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>>506169
what

>>506169
If you mean steel helmets, no nation had those at the start of the war. The Prussians had the leather pickelhaube, but it provided little actual protection. The French were the first to introduce steel helmets in 1915, after which the British and Germans followed.

>>506169
Germans certainly did, though it was the iconic pickelhaube rather than the later stahlhelm. Problem was that they were mostly made of leather, so they provided very little protection from shrapnel or falling debris. The french were mostly wearing Kepi caps until 1915 when they released how many causalities they were sustaining due to inadequate head protection. The British had gotten a chance to see the French's mistep in not equipping their troops properly, and manufactured most Brodie Helmets prior to their engagement in the war.

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>>506169
Not steel helmets. Those didn't come till 2 years into the war. German body armor came soon after.

>>506175
Most nations went into the war with leather caps senpai

>>506305
That doesn't stop a bullet though, right?

>>507463
That's a lot of metal.

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>>506007
Tbh I always prefered the french uniform in ww1 over the german's

>>506036
>Adrian helmets

Kek. Those things were basically metal hats

>>507463
Probably stop pistol bullets and shrapnel and deflect glancing rifle shots at range, but a full hit from a rifle will probably punch through it.

>>507538
France may have staryed with shit uniforms, but Horizon Blue + Adrian helmets are pretty sexy.

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>>507538
>Light blue
>visible from a mile away
>FRENCH
Bleh disgusting

>>507538
That looks like shit.
Shit taste.

>>507538
why the fuck are all of their faces so goofy

>>506144
I kind of like it. But I'm weird so what ever.

>>507538
Literally firemen with rifles.

>>507538
Wouldn't blue blend into the skylines on mountains or overall blue atmosphere from a distance?

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>>507538
sacredieu, when did we let them out of the colonial armies and into our regiments?

>>506134
nope, they just were too light for an actual combat so there soon were huge amount of surplus helmets that were sold en masse to fire brigades. it was discovered that they actually worked for that kind of job so when they begun to make their own specified firefighter's helmets they based them on adrian.

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>>507538
They looked better at the start of the war.

Obviously worse for combat.

>>507568
>visible from a mile away
it isn't really. of course it's more distinguishable than some khaki, brownish green or gray that were becoming "the thing" at that time, but that shade of blue actually blends somewhat well to environment, especially when you're covered in mud, dirt, blood and shit. there were still a lot worse things in use.

>>507654
Nice thumbnail faggot.

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>>507643
Nah they went with it for better camouflage since the red pants used before was the main reason why the French lost so many men in the early battles of the war.

But the reason why they didn't go for a less visble colour such as the British Khaki was for troop identification. At a time when pigeons and the telegram were the main methods of HQ-troop communications since radio and telephone were still in their infancy they needed a uniform that would not stand out as much as the 1914 version but would not blend in with the soldiers of other armies..

Whats the best WW2 helmet apart from the obvious Stahlhelm?

>>508626
back to int

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Adrian is probably the most aesthetically pleasing helmet ever

pikelhaubes desu

>>509816
Nah.

>>509816
Take away the little ridge on top and it;s a woman's hat

Tip your head to the right a bit, it's just like those 20s hats

>>508367
It's actually a screenshot of the above image you degenerate.

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I know the Japanese didn't actually use horned helmets, but the fantasy samurai helmets with horns, inspired by horned Viking helmets, look pretty cool to me.

>>506095
>Trench warfare where half the time all you see of someone is their head
>Implying this isn't a legitimate concern

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autist thread 2/5 shills

sieg heil

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Turks in WW1 had an interesting helmet concept, it was basically a moduled German Stahlhelm without a visor. But from what i've read, it was never used in large numbers, although there have been attempts to introduce it in larger numbers during 1917-18.

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>>506007
>visor
>angular for deflection
>actually enveloped the head

There's a reason the modern Germans still use a modified design based on this template. I've never seen a reason why it's not the best modern helmet.

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>>510397
Not just Germans, PASGT is a standard model helmet in many armies

>>510397
Hard to lie prone and hard to hear.

>>510417
Flared neck and ears negates both those problems.

>>508419
Looks sweet
Tbh

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>>510414
The US Army doesn't use the PASGT design anymore, though. It got replaced with the ACH which removes the visor part and covers less of the ears.

>>506082
What is that type of cavalry helm called?

>>507463
would stop some pistol bullets.

ammo propellants back then were not very good compared to modern. they had pistol bullet proof vests made from nylon between the wars.

>>507538
French uniforms were shit for summer. heavy wool greatcoats as part of the uniform year round.

>>506305
For the machine gunners it helped protect against all the cartridges that spat out the back of the gun, and also since they were sitting ducks.

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>>510718
Being a machine gunner must have sucked so much. The life expectancy must have been zilch with everyone wanting to hit you. You just expected that any time you'd be shot in the head or throat.

>>510850
Not if you had a proper cover from which you could slice the enemy with ease. The real threat for a machine gunner weren't bullets, but grenades and shells,

>>510862
Maybe you had a bullet shield that might deflect a 9mm. Still doesn't help that your target #1 for the enemy, and by 1917 I had imagined they had gotten better at killing those guys. Either they get tight grouping on the mortar and you get red misted or some lad would get a sniper shot on you.

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>>510663
Not sure if they had a specific name but that looks like a cuirassiers helmet, I think the style wasn't exclusively used by them though.

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>>510327
those weren't inspired by Vikings nor where they fantasy. some did wear giant fucking horns and other weird shit on their helmets. usually the most important of people to make them stand out more.

>>506134
Firemen all over the world use the French WW1 helmet
Except in Germany were they use variant of stalhelm

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>>506082
>>513009
Actually, they saw some action by the french, so it does classify as a wwi hemet

>>506210
>Germans certainly did, though it was the iconic pickelhaube
the pickelhaube at the start of the war was made from leather

>>508419
>since the red pants used before was the main reason why the French lost so many men in the early battles of the war.
yes certainly it was the pants and not the doctrines and tactics influenced by the cult of the offensive and the subsequent deployment of infantry en masse

>>513145
what were the weapons of the cuirassier at the start of the war? sword and revolver?

>>506007
The difference in gasmasks at the beginning of gas deployment was even bigger
English and French literally said "piss on a towel and putt it in front of your mouth"
While the Germans immediately got proper gas masks

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>>514437
By the time first German gas mask was introduced the British had already introduced the Hypo hood and the PH hood, which were definitely more than just pissing on a rag and stuffing it in front of your mouth. Of course they weren't true gas masks but they were an improvement over the earlier black veil respirator which was just a rag over your mouth.

>>513751

And the gold buttons.

Yeah its not something you hear often but thats why alot of the uniforms adopted later were done so. Because it was quickly found that bright ass colors are REALLY easy to see which means easier to shoot at.

Yeah, tactics and doctrine were shit but making them easier targets to see didn't help either.

>>506095
They also had a prototype that could be pulled down and used as a visored helmet. It was dripped because it qas impractical and heavy.

>>507463
The most powerful pistol cartridge widely used in ww1 ,until 1917, was the British .455 webley. It qas powerful but extremely low velocity with almost no pentetrating power. The french were mainly using .32 acp or something similar, while the Russians were using 7.62x38 a small highish velocity round or the .44 russian, a black powder round that was conparible to the british. The americans brought the .45 acp. But, like everything the americans did, it cane to late to have an impact.

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>>515269
There were a couple of the prototypes that covered the face, the most known is probably the No.8 helmet.

>>506095
>american model.no 2A

had things gone a bit differently we might have entered ww1 and possibly ww2 looking like fucking slavs. The horror.

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literally the best looking helmet in history

>>515331
>MEN...
>lowers visor
>CHARGE
>everyone is killed by machine gun fire

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>>515370
Cabasset > Morion

Cabasset has a more flexible style. Some have the same flared rim as the Morion, others can be made like Burgeonets, like pic related.

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>>515396
According to this image the helmet was to be used by people in stationary positions just like the German trench armor.

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>>515370
>>515419
you're both wrong

>>507579
They're French.

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M35 is nice

>>517307
>35

As in 1935. That's not a WWI helmet.

>>515370
I. . . agree

>>510386
>>510389
Any historical pics of people wearing this?

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>>509899
heh