Japanese "comfort women" Were they real, or is it all

>>493717
Definitely true.

What's even worse was the equivalent in Russia for the German army. An estimated million babies were born by German soldiers and Russian women.

People always talk about how horrible the Russian soldiers raping German girls was, which it was, but people don't see the Eastern front.

real and exaggerated.

Taiwanese

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q06nTrB21tw

Chinese

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MxsJJzGnaRM

Also Indonesia and Dutch

>>493717
>all just typical Korean lies and exaggeration?
You do know people from China to Burma experienced the same atrocities too right?

>>493731
>German women had it worse.
Lolno. Russians pretty much raped them and left them. Or killed them afterwards. Very few kept the same woman around. Hitler's last secretary comes to mind.

Meanwhile women across asia were kept as sexual slaves. Systematically.

>>493717
The fact that the Japanese treated THEIR OWN WOMEN in the same way certainly makes me believe they would have had no problem treating foreign ones likes that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreation_and_Amusement_Association

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>>493894
>"And so we unite and go forward to where our beliefs lead us, and through the sacrifice of several thousands of "Okichis of our era" build a breakwater to hold back the raging waves and defend and nurture the purity of our race, becoming as well an invisible underground pillar at the root of the postwar social order... we are but offering ourselves for the defense of the national polity [kokutai]."

>[The "Okichi" referenced was the possibly legendary maid of Townsend Harris, the first American consulate in Japan from 1856 to 1861, who was pressured into becoming his consort]

Yeah, when I saw someone compare it to the treatment of French "collaberators" (because it's more important to beat up the girl who sucked dick for food than the cop who rounded people up for the nazis, after all he might fight back), I thought it might be the case, but then I remembered >>493894

>>495942
>>>/pol/
don't come back

>>493717
It definitely occurred, but governments in South Korea and China like to inflame the issue to distract from problems at home, and Japan has a habit of not being specific enough in its apologies and electing openly revisionist politicians.

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>>493717
>typical Korean lies and exaggeration?

>>495944
>>>/Reddit/

You might find more sympathy among the weebs on /pol/ and /int/, friend.

>>493717
I like how Japan couldn't conquer any part of the word China.

>>493717
real but obfuscated for political reasons

local men and families played a huge role in recruiting women (especially in areas that had already been occupied/colonized by Japan) which is usually brushed over because its political inconvenient, and there were plenty of women who signed up willingly

of course, Japan was ultimately responsible for the institution and the suffering it caused

It's true. Japanese are rapist monsters by nature. Read also about UNIT-731. Probably worse atrocities commited in the history of mankind.

>>493717
Korean lies.

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>>493731
>>493881
>raping
>German women had it worse.
We all know there were far more than a few volunteers. (like the American women with German prisoners in WWII America)
>Alpha fucks, beta bucks

>>493863
>1 billion yen

That's like 40 USD for each woman. What a joke.

any pics of those comfort women when they were still young?

>>493717

Take your ignorant, ahistorical troll post and shove it up your arsehole.

You've asked a baited IR question, you know IR belongs on >>>/pol/ and you can fuck back off there.

>>501358
Infra-red?

>>501358
fuck off
the question maybe bait, but the discussion isn't

>>493881
I wasn't doing the oppression Olympics, and Russian women were kept as sexual slaves you dumbass.

GERMAN soldiers systemically raping RUSSIAN women.

>>493881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Mass_rapes

Seriously, the Germans did some pretty fucked up stuff to the Slavs.

>>501367
Interracial Relationship?

>>493881
>You do know people from China to Burma experienced the same atrocities too right?
but muh kpop

Modern Japan should not be held culpable for "atrocities" allegedly committed in their distant past, which for all intensive purposes have never been demonstrably proven beyond reasonable doubt.

>>503336
This.

>>503336
being this much of a weeab

you are also probably a virgin too, only wanting a pure japanese gf

>>503336
>Modern Japan should not be held culpable for "atrocities" allegedly committed in their distant past
They should be held culpable, what they shouldn't be is extorted.

>have never been demonstrably proven beyond reasonable doubt
Just stop.

>>503336

>intensive purposes

Google this please

tends to be highly under-exaggerated by Japanese

mildy over-exaggerated by Chinese

>>493717
I watched a documentary about the Burma railway

According to Japanese veterans, bamboo cages were lies and they suffer as much as the British while building the railway, also the ones who attacked prisoners were the Korean guards because they resent the British and the Japanese

I wonder how many of this is true, maybe everything

Wew hiring whores like literally every other army in history.
Muh poor CCP crying about their pure maidens.
Literally a non-issue. Straight up extortion.

>>503502
Japanese guards were bad, but the Korean guards were notoriously reviled.

When you're being treated like shit and suddenly in a position of power over other people, you're gonna be just as much (if not more) of a shitbag.

>>496921

Something to do with Unit-731 is in a Pokemon handheld game.

>>503336
9/10 b8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdLzsFGm9h4

Its all in English. If you are interested in confortwomen issue.

>>503823
Should modern Americans be held accountable for native American massacres ?,
should native Americans be held accountable for their atrocities to settlers or other tribes ?
should Mongolians be punished for pillaging a quarter of the world ?
should Mexicans be castrated for their crimes against the tribes of their north western territory ?

Also we should take a close look at what have happened in Vietnam, and modernday China.

part1
>>493863
part2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vX8eENgil8
part3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ_XJFuoKHs
part4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAFRm3xnKRI
part5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgh3wRrtWSo
part6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RjXzcRUP_A
part7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AacubG7yxbI
part8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfE8OXbuUQk

Its the report on confort women issue by Michael Yon.

part1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdLzsFGm9h4

sorry for that.

>>506309
the us government does pay reparations to native tribes though

>>506357
they do ?, sorry I am not American :c

>>506364
yes, a shitload of money that they used to build casinos and squander on alcohol.

Well, but the US government had confiscated a lot of lands after they have agried a settlment issue with the government. Everything is political and seems true to those who has power is always right... Never evolved since the anscient time.

>>506440
>Well, but the US government had confiscated a lot of lands after they have agried a settlment issue with the government.
The other way around, the US Government confiscated/gained most of its lands in violation of local treaties prior to public apology and compensation settlements agreed on in the 20th century.

Of course, by the time the Indian Claims Commission was set up, most of the land the US government had essentially stolen had been given or sold to private owners from the federal level (through the homestead act) to the municipal level, and it would be impossible to return the full rights to the stolen land to the tribes (which are technically semiautonomous bodies with their own laws) without jeopardizing the agreements made between the US government on all levels and these private landowners. That's why compensation comes in the form of money (which is systematically based upon the per-acre value of the land at the time of its confiscation) as opposed to just giving the land back.

>Everything is political and seems true to those who has power is always right... Never evolved since the anscient time.
Victors writing history is a meme, and wrong most of the time it's used. The obvious case of the fact that the United States, the Winners, are very very aware that they robbed the Native Americans blind is obviously one case. While maybe John Green and others may have some nice things to say about the Mongols, nobody ever pretends they were good people or that they didn't massacre a significant portion of the world population. The British defeated the boers and the Germans defeated the Herero in the late 19th-early 20th century, and yet we know both the concentration camps that the British put boer civilians into, and what some argue to be the first genocide, the deaths of the Herero. Roman annihilation of the Jewish state and early Christian forgeries have not hidden Josephus' Jewish perspective from us.

Countries other than the Koreas have had their women raped and used by the Japanese.

>>506495
Please do take a look at the video I posed at No.506347
If you dont want to admit that then better give us good evidence to support your statement.

>>506520

Do you even know how to use this website? That's not how you link.

Good chances are you're probably a troll with that. so I'll treat you as such and will promptly ignore you.

>>506309
Yeah, sure.

>>506536
Its my first time use this site. and I dont know what do you mean by "troll", for I am not a native speaker.

"Ignore" go right ahead. I cant stop you doing so.

>>506520
Fine, I'll bite. Yon's research is based on the Office of War Information's Report No.49 (10-01-1944), and his argument is that the report alleges that comfort women were paid volunteers who could have refused.

The report is here:
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/japans-world-war-ii-comfort-women-revisionism-comes-to-the-u-s/5453023
The report DOES note that they were living in "relatively luxurious conditions." That does not mean, however, that they weren't misled. Note the opening paragraph:
>The nature of this "service" was not specified but it was assumed to be work connected with visiting the wounded in hospitals, rolling bandages, and generally making the soldiers happy.
>The majority of the girls were ignorant and uneducated, although a few had been connected with "oldest profession on earth" before.
>On the basis of these FALSE representations many girls enlisted for overseas duty and were rewarded with an advance of a few hundred yen.
So we can already establish that most of these uneducated korean women were lied to and tricked on false premises into prostitution.

The article does note that
>The girls were allowed the prerogative of refusing a customer. This was often done if the person were too drunk.
However, this does not mean that they were allowed to leave the job as a prostitute they had been tricked into, or that they were ever allowed a break.
>The girls complained that even with the schedule congestion was so great that they could not care for all guests
Being able to refuse a single customer doesn't mean you weren't still in a job you didn't sign up for fucking people all week.

(cont'd)

>>506803
Also sorry, wrong url:
>http://texas-daddy.com/comfortwomen.htm
is the right one.
Next up is the allegation that they were free to leave once they had paid their "debt". The report does say that
>In the latter part of 1943 the Army issued orders that certain girls who had paid their debt could return home. Some of the girls were thus allowed to return to Korea.
However, it also notes that
>The "house master" received fifty to sixty per cent of the girls' gross earnings depending on how much of a debt each girl had incurred when she signed her contract.
>Many "masters" made life very difficult for the girls by charging them high prices for food and other articles.
So even if these unwilling, uneducated prostitutes were well-paid they were still losing the vast majority of their pay to their house-masters.

>>506309
none of them should be conveniently quiet about those events
that's the point

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>>506831
Another interesting part of the report is the list of the "comfort women" in 1944. Note how over half are 21 or below in 1944 and were shipped in 1942. This means that some of these girls were as young as 17 (Kim Yonja) when they were recruited. Under the International Convention for the Suppression of the Traffic in Women and Children, signed by Japan in 1921, these women were legally minors, which means that the IJA was also engaging in child trafficking.

Lastly, note that this whole report is based on an interrogation of 20 comfort women from a single location. That is neither an adequate or proper assessment or a system that spanned most of southeast asia at one point and included thousands of comfort women. Perhaps Col. Maruyama was particularly kind, perhaps he was particularly cruel. Either way, it is very dangerous to generalize the treatment of thousands of women on the basis of twenty from a single garrison--women who also, when asked about propaganda, suggested
>it would be a good idea to utilize the fact of their capture in any droppings planned for Korea.

KOREAN LIES

Japanes comfort women is exist
Chinese comfort women is exist
Indonesian comfort women is exist


etc..

So Koran comfort women is Exist.

Real, but it was 70 years ago, plenty of atrocities have been forgiven or forgotten in that time.

Plus Korea and China like to drag things out and exaggerate them depending on how politically advantageous at the time it is. Theres been periods when Korea/China wanted extra close relations with china so stamped out all mentions of comfort women themselves.

Now they are stronger economic rivals they are putting on a big show to make themselves look and feel better.

>>507051
Ugh, brainfart. i meant extra close relations with japan.

>>506413
>casinos
As much as I hate the white privilege bullshit, maybe it's our turn to be on the receiving end of a bad joke in this case.

The house always wins, paleface.

>>503511
yeah who fucking cares?

>>507018
Don't forget Flip women.

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>>493717
Typical Welsh nonsense!

>>507362
Oh.l knew it
But lm sorry

Filipino, Dutch, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese, Thai, Indonesian, Malaysian ...

'>muhh 200,000 comfort Korean women

there were estimated to be as high as 200,000 comfort women, but they weren't all korean and included many prostitutes from other asian countries. Realistic estimate would be around 100,000

>>493717

slippery slope to torture

Seems the average Japanese males, with their infantile dicks, decided to put them to use.

I'll bet the Korean women barely felt it.

as much as 4chan hates women, Japanese government and males have an extremely exploitive and abusive attitude towards women. it isn't so much of an issue among all the different asian countries. it's more of a societal issue in japan, where they would institutionally sell their own sisters and daughters into prostitution. Japanese men think it's ok to treat other women like how they treat their own

>>501358
>How dare you discuss a topic I don't want discussed!

>>508690
>Realistic estimate would be around 100,000
That's basically 4chan levels in a month, anon. It was definitely more.

>>508708
QFT

Japan is one of the largest destinations for trafficked women yet they do nothing about it because the government is in bed with the yakuza.

>>508752
yep, seems like as much of a domestic issue as a international one. you look at karayuki-san and prostitiom in post war years. I highly doubt any of those women were willing to become prostitutes

>>506357
That is presumably as a repayment for the violated treaties, though.

Why don't Asian women have any qualms about whoring themselves? It's like fucking hairless Asian men probably won't feeling anything to them. They probably get off more to dildos than Asian micropenises, so it barely counts as sex for Asian women

>>493717
I'm Korean and I think Chink destoryed our country more than japs. Japs actually modernized our country and suppressed uppity peasant scums and commies.
>Pls let us back into glorious Co-prosperity sphere.

>>508856
but, you're a chink

>>508856
kill yourself faggot.
Korea is stronk!
We has nukes
Noone can stop us now.7
ten years from now on it will be us and the chink doing the rapu of japanese qts

>poor English speakers suddenly coming out of the wordworks
Is there an alarm for Japanese warcrimes threads or are they merely pretending?

>>508899
To be fair I came on /his/ looking for a comfort women thread after I saw it making the news and I'm not even Japanese.

>>508856
Takagi Masao, pls go.

>>508972
Fuck you cracker. Japanese empire will rise again!
And this time we kill ALL the gooks and chinks

>>508981
You will not stop the great Koguri Mongol Taiwan Coalition. We will crush you and annex you as Taiwanese East Koguri Slave state.

TAIWAN NO. 1!

>>508899
FAKA U

WHITU PIGGU

GO

HOM

>>508729
And number of people gonig to 4chan in a month has anything to do with that because?

It's real. That said, who blames a country for raping while at war?

That's just a staple of war.

>>509545
If you're America, you usually buy women rather than take them.

You can tell where American troops have been stationed by the presence of massive red light districts.

>>509568
>You can tell where American troops have been stationed by the presence of massive red light districts.
The 50 states are now the 50 Red Lights, Anon? Because this is what you're saying.