Who's to say how long it would have taken for someone else to discover their contributions? Set back history a few hundred years (at the very least, maybe thousands even). Without Islam you'd be more likely to die of smallpox or some other such disease than old age.
it would be so drastically different it would be hard to fathom it.
>>3364047
Islam had nothing to do with it, those smart persians and indians would've existed with or without Islam.
>>3364064
but persians dont exist today
arabs and turkics raped iranians to extinction
I have a couple of questions, hopefully you all can help me out here. Most questions are centered around the middle ages, unless stated otherwise.
1) How were people with diaabilities treated? In particular, deafness and muteness. Were they taken care of, hated, treated?
2) Related to n.1, what exactly is illiteracy? Does a person who can't read see words the same way we see egyptian hieroglyphs? Do they understand words and grammar? And would a deaf person be able to use sign language despite not knowing how to write and read?
3) Was there any slavery during this time? Not quite forced labor, but explicit slavery.
4) Any big, noteworthy civil wars around this era?
5) How were different sexual orientations viewed during this time? I imagine a pair of lesbian lovers must've kept it pretty secret.
Thanks guys.
Anon "the middle ages" is around 1000 years of history, where and when do you specifically mean? The answer is going to vary a lot depending on that.
>>3363802
I wasn't thinking of a specific range, but I guess between the 10th and 16th century is fine. I hope it's not too broad, I'm genuinely curious about this and I'm not sure where else I can ask.
>>3363775
>1) How were people with diaabilities treated? In particular, deafness and muteness. Were they taken care of, hated, treated?
By their families. Deaf and mute people were seen as being disabled, it was mental illness that would attract fear and hatred, schizophrenics in particular were often objects of shame and hate.
>2) Related to n.1, what exactly is illiteracy? Does a person who can't read see words the same way we see egyptian hieroglyphs? Do they understand words and grammar? And would a deaf person be able to use sign language despite not knowing how to write and read?
Sign language does not require written literacy, although it is a related concept. Literacy was generally poor at all levels of society, but again there were exceptions such as England were peasants achieved high levels of literacy because the Common Law allowed them to sue their masters for breaches of the feudal contract, giving them a financial incentive to learn to read so they can check up on their rights.
>3) Was there any slavery during this time? Not quite forced labor, but explicit slavery.
It varied, in the North and West not really, Vikings kept slaves but in very small numbers and this custom died out with the spread of Christianity. Of course, the Byzantine Empire still used slaves in huge numbers, as did the Muslims.
>4) Any big, noteworthy civil wars around this era?
What era? "The middle ages"? Yeah, one or two.
>5) How were different sexual orientations viewed during this time? I imagine a pair of lesbian lovers must've kept it pretty secret.
Lesbianism wasn't understood as a thing. Sodomy was against God and so persecuted, and most people lived in very small communities where everyone knows everyone else, so keeping homolust secret would have been tricky. OTOH, most people then as now didn't much care what you get up to in your bedroom, and I'm sure many homo couples lived more or less openly, tolerated by their neighbors but kept away from the priest.
How viable do you think it would have been to draw 1941 USSR forces into a giant encirclement in Poland?
It's well-agreed that the USSR army was unable to conduct effective offensive operations in the early part of the war, so it seems to make sense to bait them into an attack. A rush to Moscow is also known to be out of the question, so speed is not quite as important.
1. Position Axis forces around the defensible river/mountain areas on the flanks that jut into USSR territory. Have central Axis forces fall back into Poland to the more defensible Carpathians and rivers, drawing in USSR forces.
2. USSR forces have accumulated in an area the size of Poland, with an additional secondary pocket in southern Ukraine. Advance mobile elements into the steppes, roughly along the border of the Dnieper.
3. We have now presumably encircled a massive part of the USSR army at a much lesser cost than if they were attacked on their home soil and have mobile elements in place ready to destroy rear-echelon forces.
Not as fast as the original plan I think, but certainly seems to be more manpower/resource-efficient. No significant manpower or industry is lost by giving up land in occupied Poland either.
Thoughts?
>>3363743
All you need is Spain to join the axis
>>3363911
Do you have an argument as to why it's untenable?
Why was their doctrine so fucking infantry-centered?
>>3363660
I'm talking about the Japanese btw
aircraft are dishonorabu
>>3363677
What about Pearl Harbor?
>>3363608
Would you consider African tribesmen to be of better character than people from first world?
Imo it doesn't produce people of better character, but people of simpler character.
>>3363608
>i want to be a farmer so bad
anon stop im sad
>>3363625
African tribesman are worthy of a certain amount of respect. Western numales not so much.
How do you feel about the "Heathenism Resurgance" /his/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D08C-apDxO0
>These comments
Gas them all
>>3363120
Asatru is a meme, but will become a very important meme when nordic countries begin to rebel against the EU
>>3363144
Stfu
That was so powerful, friggin WOW
Shook me to my core
Who's /his/' favorite American founding father?
I'm split between Aaron Burr, Jefferson, and James Monroe
>>3363091
Based Frankin for naming the jew before it was even thing and wanting an anglo only nation.
I never knew how intelligent Burr was before having read his letters. Madison seems the most intelligent to me.
>>3363094
Link plz, I don't believe
Was he the best stateman of his time ?
>>3363018
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer"
>>3363026
This
>Inb4 hurr hurr lost the war
He was betrayed by the anglo
>>3363026
Do you personally like /his/? Do you think it should be improved or is it fine the way it is?
It was destined to fail and people knew this long before it was even created.
>>3362823
As long as the mods refuse to ban people /his/ can never improve.
I come here to learn and read about interesting events in history.
I dislike the /pol type posters and all the africa kangz bs but ive been on 4chan a long time and I'm accustomed to scrolling past shit.
Its all the mods
Which Christianity. Catholic, Protestant, or Nestorian?
>>3362656
Jesus's own brother was Chinese so pretty big
>>3362692
Top kek
To be fair, they killed him long before Mao arrived
How did he stay in power for so long? How did he not end up like Mussolini/Saddam/Qaddafi?
>>3362373
He played the game right and didn't go against the US, if you're a dictator and want to live long that's pretty much all you need to do.
Didn't gas his own people like Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam and Gaddafi but he was still a fash.
>>3362397
basically this
Franco didn't waste time and risk his position going on pointless World Wars for some pipedream colonial empire (Mussolini) and instead consolidated his power home and waited things out
Did all those people have to die because he was an angry manlet with a faggy voice?
>>3362321
>>3362333
Is this a yes?
>implying Stalin killed a single person
Liberal revisionists OUT
Why do people cite non-Bantu civilizations when defending Sub-Saharan Africa?
>uhh look at the Mali tribe
>uhh look at mansu
That's like saying yeah look at the romans when someone asks why Finland has never accomplished anything.
>>3362310
Why did Finland never accomplish anything?
Why do people shit on sub-saharan Africa when they're actually just criticizing Bantu civilizations?
Because they're from Africa.
Why did the Orthodox Church venerate Stalin as a saint?
>>3362271
because that's how ethnic religious groups work
Because the Orthodox church is run by former members of the KGB
Because the Russians were, are and always will be slaves.
And when you see the Western /pol/shits and Russians here talk about muh traditional values and Christianity they mean icons of Stalin and priests with wrist watches and cars that 99% of the population can't afford.
Who were the Avars and what was their contribution to history?
>>3362032
I think they made stirrups.
>>3362032
aryans who got killed by cousins of mongols - the hungarians
>>3362044
>turkics
>aryans