>your favorite historical figure goes to a bar
What'll it be?
>>2892966
a Bloody Mary
I imagine Bass Reeves, deputy US marshal in Indian Territory, would've ordered something like a pint of Choc. http://www.drunkard.com/strange-brews-choctaw-beer/
>>2892984
You win.
>Alexander the Great
A literal bowl of wine please
Dishonored Traitor or Hero?
>>2892958
Proof that German nationalism is a vicious cancer that has been present since they lived in mud huts. You can take the German out of Germany, but you can't take the perfidious maniac out of the German.
>>2892958
Depends on what you think the actual importance of Teutoburg was.
If you think its importance was overrated and held up to represent more than it actually meant by later historians, then he was just a dishonourable traitor.
If you think that the battle actually caused the end of Rome's ambitions toward Germany, then he was both a dishonourable traitor and a hero.
Pic related makes it kinda hard to take Teutoburg as any more serious an event than any other battle with 20-30k lost soldiers, of which Rome had plenty.
>>2892958
Traitor obviously
>stops Roman influences into Germania meaning tech is lost during the great migration and walks fall
>is remembered by his Latin not Germanic name
>kissed Varus on the cheek before leaving
How much can you tell about your ancestry based on where you live/your family have lived and your second name?
I have a friend who reckons he's descended from Thomas Clarke of the 1916 Irish Rising due to the fact his second name is Clarke and his family have been in Ireland for quite some time.
>>2892916
From my father side as far as I know we were peasans with no fame, just plain working fellow, generation from generation of farmers in souther france.
I'm a black man named Jamal King. I'd imagine the "king" part comes from the fact that my ancestors use to be pharaohs in Egypt.
Peasants from the Rhine and East Prussia.
>The "dark ages". It was only dark in Europe. The rest of the world was thriving with knowledge and expansion. The Dark Ages is a eurocentric view on history which is now no longer called "Dark Ages" but the early to middle ages.
Why is normie history so cancerous?
>implying that's wrong
>implying there wasn't plenty of advancement even in Europe during the Middle Ages
>>2892873
>normie history
>as if the belief that the dark ages were the worst thing ever isn't the actual, wrong normie history
It doesn't make sense because the dark ages always refered to Western Europe. If I talk about the warring states period It's implied I mean China. Not the whole world.
It seems like an issue of retardation. Somebody was so stupid when they were taught about the dark ages growing they said. "HURRR DUREE BUR WUT ABOOT DIIS PLACE DUHH" like the driveling non-human they were. And some advice to whoever said that. "Early Middle Ages" specifically means Europe also.
Will we ever see a revival of Neoclassicalism?
Not to be edgy, it's just so pretty.
No it'd probably be another classical revival i.e. from the source itself rather than the late 18th C. movement. If anything I think there'd be a Renaissance revival.
>>2892855
If there are any extremely rich nationalists/imperialists probably, as well as similar thinking strong and decent politicians.
Otherwise its just gonna be the odd american political building.
>>2892855
Yes. Unfortunatly they won't be painted.
How could MURICA win the war? if there was even possible for them from the start of course
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbI0cMyyw_M
>>2892719
needed more flexible strategy, you kinda still see it today
They needed to have promoted a politico-civil-military strategy that 1. didnt install a weak RVN govt 2. didn't include bombing the shit out of peasants 3. created stronger civilian institutions that promoted liberal democracy ic law, justice etc
Like their grand strategy was still based on inter-state attrition warfare instead of counter-insurgency so their tactics were pretty much working to provoke battles that give 'definitive' victories plus helicopters rather than using military force as a stronger version of police to clamp down on insurgent activity
To be fair tho, hindsight is pretty sweet and plus they still would have had to tackle the NVA in the north
>>2892742
They tried all of that shit. Its not like they were retards.
The only Way to win would have been full escalation from the start.
1) Invade the North when a South vietnamese state still exists outside some offices in saigon and washington.
2) Immediately cut of every supply route china could use.
3) Win the war against Soviet supplied china.
No Way in hell that would have happened After Korea and with Johnson more preocuppied with domestic reforms.
>>2892719
Wasn't the goal to weaken communist russia by making them invest into a proxy-war and destabilise them and their economy?
Seems to have worked.
>most people unironically think all Greco-Roman buildings and statues were left unpainted
>>2892717
>most people
Isn't this like the "whales are actually mammals!" type of trivia?
As in, something that was a fun fact 30 years ago, but by now everyone knows?
>>2892722
no, i assure you most of people remotely interested in greco-roman history think this and a lot of movies and documentaries leave the buildings in white aswell
>>2892717
To be perfectly honest, I study ancient history and have to constantly remind myself that that is the case. The pure white marble is such a strong meme though.
So this is not trying to start a shitstorm or bait thread, but I am geniuenly curious.
As a super power that's been on top of the world for a while, is it me or is the U.S. kinda weak and failing at it?
>partially failed in Korea and created a 70 years stalemate
>failed intervening in Cuba
>failed(hard) in Vietnam
>failed to stabilize Somalia for 20+ years after Mogadishu
>questionable intervention in Yugoslavia, created a lot of problems
>failed in Afghanistan, didn't stabilize or secure anything, withdrew and country is as hostile as ever
>toppled Saddam in Iraq but again, couldn't establish anything and now there's insurgency and ISIS
>arguably failed in Libya, Egypt and Syria by supporting islamist "revolutions"
America is a bit retarded desu
>only country that could help UK, doesn't until 1941
but when it does, becomes superpower post war
>Cold War:
Leader of the 'Free World' -> segregation... black people are literally second-class citizens
>"We hold these truths to be self-evident... all men are created equal"... unless they aren't white
But Space Race and technological innovations etc so that was good
>Korea:
MacArthur pushed too far, gets China involved
>Vietnam was just cooked
>Post-9/11:
half-hearted attempts to nation-build but doesn't realise that everything cannot just be done with military force ie. need actual civilian institutions re: Afghanistan
>Iraq:
Killed Saddam but doesn't really matter because they flip the ethno-power meaning more people are unhappy and Baathists are still about... American political mentality is tied with the Presidency so changing leader = change in governance (Iraq, Libya, Egypt etc)
>muh 2nd amendment rights = freedom
>more guns = more freedom
Why don't we give these already unhappy people more weapons?
Wait, why is this descending into chaos?
>Then with military intervention:
have great military force but no exit strategy, the warrior American people become weary when their sons die and want total pull out (War is good until my son/daughter/father/mother died so now it is bad)
>pull out method doesnt work
Doesn't want to spend money on lasting missions like post-WWII Germany
idk but it just seems like American mentality is:
we are the best, no one can compete also here's some guns and freedom but we can't really afford to promote institutions like laws and democracy effectively
Also Trump has made the US even more of a laughingstock
You're paying too much attention to the wars. American economic hegemony, first through the Marshall Plan/Bretton-Woods (more Keynesian) and later through the neoliberal Washington Consensus, is far more important.
In recent years, however, China's state-capitalist investment has granted them much more influence in Africa and Asia; there's been plenty of exploitation and neocolonial behavior but they've also done a lot of good (sort of like how European colonialism had both horrible and positive aspects). Whether they will usurp the United States as the dominant global economy remains to be seen.
>>2892681
USA´s isolationist tendencies.
What are some historical titles that dictators used to avoid being called dictators?
I am particularly interested in communist countries, where in theory everyone would be equal, and it would be hard to justify having your "director" or "chairman" be an absolute ruler.
Also general lore behind the titles, like mandate of haven, divine right, blue blood, god-emperor cult, etc.
Autocrat titles and lore.
>>2892533
Autarch is my favorite.
Despot and Tyrant are also classics that would never fly today.
Member of the Committee of Public Safety might work.
>>2892549
>Member of the Committee of Public Safety
The french revolution was so dank, I regret we didn't keep more of their inventions.
The current system of 60 minute hours, 24 hour days, 7 day weeks, those are all based on astrology and are hard to work with, just finicky numbers.
I wish we'd have another clean sheet, just forget all the stuff that we have just because we had them last year, and build a world wide system that everyone is forced to use.
You know, for the common good.
>>2892560
Finally, someone who agrees with me!
Relative, 24 hour time is an unnecessary, obtuse abstraction. What the world needs is metric time, based on either 10 long hours or 100 very short ones, that are used in sync across the world.
What is the most bare-bones monotheist religion?
Christianity has tons of rituals and the trinitarian theology
Islam has lots of rules too
Judaism is nothing but mitzvah Pokémon
>>2892497
>has lots of rules
so? the idea behind them is to realize one's "fitrah" (primordial human nature). it's similar to the idea of entelechy in aristotelian philosophy. become what you are.
http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/DefinitionFitrah.htm
article came up when i googled the term, let me know if it helps
>>2892497
moralistic therapeutic deism. the average person in the west knows next to nothing about their religion and tends to follow a set of basic principles:
>A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over human life on earth.
God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as taught in the Bible and by most world religions.
>The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about oneself.
>God does not need to be particularly involved in one's life except when God is needed to resolve a problem.
>Good people go to heaven when they die.
Can anyone explain Chinese Legalism? From how I heard it described on /his/ it is somehow the most crazy evil political philosophy ever created. However when I looked it up it didn't seem that bad, it's just saying some things that we take for granted in the West. Things like
>we need the rule of law to punish crime and reward positive contributions because morals won't stop individuals from being selfish to the detriment of the collective
>the government should be an organized and closely monitored bureaucracy ruled by law and not left to its own devices
>government should be meritocratic with performance of officials regularly evaluated and good performers promoted
What am I missing?
i think most criticisms allege that this system stifles creativity and promotes mindless conformity
i cannot speak for the accuracy of those claims or lack thereof
Didn't he basically create legalism for max militarism of Qin? It's as rigid and unimaginative as it's effective.
>>2892456
Yeah, apparently his administration and Legalism was hated so badly that his empire lasted about 15 years before promptly collapsing under the weight of mass revolts and all subsequent governments had to govern according to Confucianism instead because everyone hated legalism?
>>2892444
But how does rule of law promote mindless conformity?
Sloth is the best sin.
deadly sins are made up
>>2892429
>this is what sloth niggers actually believe
Greed 4 lyfe
>>2892633
I'd argue with you, but I'm hungry.
The butcher of Balkans, or a smeared champion of Serb interests, whose reputation was dragged through mud by propaganda?
Aparatchik who exploited the power vacuum and was controlled by his wife and others, as Hitchens claimed, or a fearsome warlord and dictator with a vision?
Megalomaniac who ruined his nation, or a tragic hero fighting against Western imperialism?
Let's discuss Slobodan Milošević, and Yugoslav conflicts in general.
Disclaimer: I'm a Serb, but I'm pretty objective and willing to hear arguments.
>>2892414
There was no "good" guy in Yugoslavia, but if we compare pasts, the Croatians are the most evil, the Albanians the most savage, the Bosnians the most unecessary and the Serbs unfortunately got the short end of the stick
Sure, sure, muhh Kosovo and muhhh Srbrencia but nobody talks about the Serbs in Krajina or Slovenia
>>2892441
In other words the Bosnians did literally nothing wrong and the Serbs sperged out.
By the way, when Croats were committing crimes against the Serbs, Western soldiers (I think Canadians?) actually did intervene.
>>2892446
Their intervention was slight and never stopped anything, all the Krajina Serbs left, meanwhile Serbia got bombed
>Bosnians did literally nothing wrong
Many Bosnians had become Mujahideen and used Srbrenica as headquarters for their attacks since it had become a UN safezone, when the Serbs had enough of their shit and intervened, shit went south fast
Why weren't newer theological texts added to the bible?
>>2892207
It's unnecessary
>>2892207
Because that isn't what the Bible is for?
They did at one point. Look up music from before the middle ages.
Is Afghanistan in central or south asia? I've read conflicting things. It's such a clusterfuck of ethnicities that you can't tell
>>2892145
What a stupid picture.
>>2892145
It's an unfortunate country located precisely on the crossroad between Persia, India, and Central Asia.
It's the sort of thing that happens when you take a rump state that roughly overlapped with a few historical "empires" (big kingdoms) and only enjoyed nominal sovereignty over most of its territory, decide to freeze in time the arbitrary borders, keep them even after the monarchs whose property they were supposed to delimitate got overthrown etc
>>2892155
It's TRUTH