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>On 12 September 1942, RMS Laconia carrying some 2,732 crew, passengers, soldiers and prisoners of war (POWs), was torpedoed and sunk by the German U-boat submarine U-156 off the coast of West Africa. Operating partly under the dictates of the old prize rules, the U-boat commander, Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartenstein, immediately commenced rescue operations.
>After surfacing and picking up survivors, who were accommodated on the foredeck, U-156 headed on the surface under Red Cross banners to rendezvous with Vichy French ships and transfer the survivors. En route, the U-boat was spotted by a United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) B-24 Liberator bomber. The pilots, having reported the U-boat's location, intentions, and the presence of survivors, were then ordered to attack the sub. The B-24 killed dozens of Laconia's survivors with bombs and strafing attacks, forcing U-156 to cast their remaining survivors into the sea and crash dive to avoid being destroyed. The pilots of the B-24 mistakenly reported that they had sunk U-156, and were awarded medals for their bravery.
I thank you brave american pilots for your sacrifice
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>>2952183
Why do you get a medal for bravery for sinking a submarine with a bomber? There's few combat tasks that are less dangerous than that. I mean sure, some commendation, but for bravery of all things?
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war is hell
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>>2952183
>I thank you brave american pilots for your sacrifice
Don't be a retarded faggot.
http://www.uboataces.com/battle-laconia.shtml
>The survivors waved and the U-boats signaled for help. As Red Cross flags were draped over their decks, the pilot Lieutenant James D. Harden turned away and radioed back to base for instructions. The officer on duty that day Captain Robert C. Richardson III replied with the order to attack.
>The officer on duty that day Captain Robert C. Richardson III replied with the order to attack.
>Captain Robert C. Richardson III
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Why are germans always like this
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>>2952172
Because jews have consistently been terrible to host countries. Do you think it's a coincidence that almost every country they've been to kicked them out?
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>>2952323
Give one (1) example when jews did something terrible to a host country when the non-jewish population didn't do anything to them (exept the foundation of modern israel)
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>>2952323
>Because jews have consistently been terrible to host countries
[citation needed]
most of the shit you hear about them is shady business deals and stuff, but everyone does that, jews just get punished as a scapegoat.
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>Ban the trade unions and we'll make you Fuhrer
>You got it
How did neo-Nazi revisionists manage to make Hitler look like a man of the people when he outlawed unions as soon as he got into office, dealt with industrialists, killed leaders of the communist parties, killed poor disabled children/adults and was essentially elected by the middle-classes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Meeting_of_20_February_1933
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>>2952125
By ignoring it or calling it jewish lies.
Neo nazis, as most conspiracy theorists, are just another product of post modern denial of objectivity.
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>>2952125
still, he gave the working classes work
building the autobahn, making tanks and other armament
the right to strike and to collective bargaining are nice, but if you're unemployed they are kind of meaningless
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""""Villains"""" in history who did nothing wrong
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He only did what he thought was best for France
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YOU BETRAYED THE LAW
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>Yeah sure Germany, have your way with my citizens
He was a cuck
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>>2952111
French women loved the german cock and invited it willingly.
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If it wasn't for the Black Plague, how much longer would the Mongolian Empire lasted?
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>>2952024
The Mongols didn't collapse because of the Black Death, they collapsed because Genghis died.
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The plague didn't affect the mongols that much. The Empire collapsed becasue it stopped being united around a single man. After mama seized power and was defeated in Russia the Empire started falling apart. By 1480 it was a shadow of its former self.
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>>2952029
Half true, they collapsed because they fell for the frankish meme and didn't have a proper succession system. If Ogodei got the whole empire and his best kid would've gotten it all as well and so on, well... maybe the mongols would've conquered the world who knows
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Any good documentaries on East Europe? I'm especially interested in the Yugoslav Wars
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Yes
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283181/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdS9M7oSVOg
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>>2952010
looks interesting will check it out. bump
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also interested in anything people can suggest. I started watching Yugoslavia: The Avoidable War last night. It's roughly three hours and gives a different perspective from The Death of Yugoslavia (which I liked a lot). The Avoidable War seems to deal more with Western influence on the conflict and with the responsibility of everyone involved, rather than just the Serbs.
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Austerity caused the fall of the Weimer Republic, NOT hyperinflation 2017-06-14 12:15:09 Post No.2951947
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Austerity caused the fall of the Weimer Republic, NOT hyperinflation
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Hyperinflation occurred in the Weimer Republic between 1921 and 1924 when the government printed money to pay off their World War 1 denbts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic
After that, the Germany economy was propped up by loans from the USA from the Dawes plan (1924) and Young's Plan (1929).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Plan
Everything was fine and dandy until in 1929, when the American stock market crashed and the Great Depression began, which severely affected Germany's ability to pay back their loans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic#Onset_of_the_Great_Depression
This motivated Heinrich Bruning to implement austerity measures in the Weimer Republic by cutting public funding and unemployment welfare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic#Br.C3.BCning.27s_policy_of_deflation_.281930.E2.80.931932.29
This basically caused deflation and depression in the economy as people's wages, pensions and welfare were cut, and subsequently most businesses collapsed.
And then in 1932, the Nazis came to power and the rest is history.
So why do the Germans promote this myth that "hyperinflation" caused the Weimer Republic to collapse, when it was clearly draconian Austerity policies?
Also why Europe is making the same mistake again by implementing austerity?
Do they like WANT another Hitler to come to power or something?
Also, why the FUCK is this not discussed in economics books? Why is it "still under debate"?
>PS: Mods, I'm asking this question on /his/ instead of /biz/ because over there all the threads are practically cryptocurrency spam, and any discussion of economics is essentially saged or hidden.
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>>2951947
>Also why Europe is making the same mistake again by implementing austerity?
What else to do when you don't have money for dem programs? Pay it with money you don't have? Steal the money, Reich style?
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>>2951961
You have to pay for all those "Peaceful Refugees" somehow.
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How can Jews/Christians/etc. actually defend that their holy books said that people lived to almost 1000 years old?
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You have understand, they believe that if they don't they go to hell/are separate from god.
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>>2951879
It was mostly mythology (correct me if I'm wrong), and obviously a human cannot live that long. I also choose not to believe in the Ark. are they possibly metaphorical lessons? That's what I choose to believe.
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>>2951943
No, according to Genesis it's canon. There's timelines of Noah's life over his hundreds of years. Some people say that the flood was God's wraith or something and this includes the shortening of human life but not to sound like an edgelord but I think it's all bullshit.
And yeah, your faith sounds like what my parents believe in. I forgot the word for it, but it's the opposite of litertalism and fundamentalism (maybe it's called modernism?) where you see the Books as a model or upstanding behavior and society instead of a historical account.
Do you believe Jesus was a real person? Personally I think he might have been but maybe there was exaggeration or information lost in time. I really do enjoy his teachings however. He's very similar to Buddha when it comes to goodwill and living in poverty.
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Things that make you go: WHAT THE FUUUUUCK 2017-06-14 11:16:59 Post No.2951828
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Things that make you go: WHAT THE FUUUUUCK
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Pic related, the Phrygian goddess Cyebele , Central Anatolia, 100 bc, on the right
The seated goddess with lions of Catal Huyuk, 7000 bc, Anatolia, on the left.
For fuck's sake they are almost 8000 years apart, this must be a coincidence right??
You can't worship the same goddess for that long!
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>>2951828
>8000
I meant 7000
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>>2951828
I don't think it's a "coincidence" so much as shared motifs. The women/goddesses are meant to look like queens, they both have cats, etc.
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>>2951828
>You can't worship the same goddess for that long!
>Who are jews
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>born too late to experience Western civilization at its all time high
>born just in time to watch it get more meaningless and pathetic every decade
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>>2951762
>born too late to look at history
>born too early to make history by exploring the galaxy
>born just in time to get drunk and browse history sites
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>>2951780
>history will continue after you die
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>>2951762
>not learning how to computer science in an age of near instant communication
>not parsing through millions of historical documents with a python script you wrote yourself looking for historical connections that no historian has noticed
>found one last week that involves america's revolutionary army, russia, and the modern US marine corp
I've got implicit evidence for my claim, no explicit evidence yet.
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How was the British rule seen in Hong Kong? As foreign occupation or perhaps as "our" government?
Let's focus on post-ww2 era.
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>>2951573
I ask the Hong Kongers at my university about this enough that I think i'm annoying them.
General consensus is they appreciate it was advantageous to be administered by the British and would rather that were still the case over Chinese occupation but ultimately would like to be Singapore tier.
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>>2951705
>Ywn never live in a timeline where Hong Kong and Macau become city states like Monaco and Singapore
The world needs more city states. I hate the nation states meme with "muh united Germanic peoples" and even more so the continent states meme with "muh united Europeans", City states are literally god tier from Athens and the City of London to Singapore and Monaco.
There just so comfy, easy to administrate, pleasant, and are actually something that people can be proud of and have inspired patriotism towards because you literally live their where as in places like the UK most people from norther town are disillusioned because they don't live in London which is the only part that matters.
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they were only given a democratic government in the 1970s, and while many hong kongers were happy about it they also criticized the move saying it was clearly a ploy so that when the time came to return HK to China the British government could say YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THEIR DEMOCRATIC HUMAN RIGHTS
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This thread is for discussion about the nuke army abolition. Is ther something more urgent?
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Lets abolish nuclear weapons so that i can be buried alive while my wife and baby are bayoneted instead.
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>>2951566
lets make everyone immortal instead.
probably more likely then abolition of nukes.
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>>2951566
Nuclear weapons are why the USSR and the USA never fought a major war. We need more, not fewer.
A couple of questions about the Hussite movement:
Utraquists and Taborites. Where they originally the same and then splited or where two different factions from the beggining?
I´ve read that the taborites banned marriage but also that they allowed priest marriage, which seems an oxymoron. What was their position on marriage?
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>>2951516
I don't know about the marriage issue, but the two fractions you've named were an outcome of disputes among the original hussite movement, Tabirites being a lot more radical.
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>>2951516
"Utraquists" is another name for the whole Hussite movement.
Taborites are a specific radical branch that is tied to city Tábor, which was founded specifically to be Hussite city. Which is why it became the most radically hussite city, and Taborites became a separate branch from the rest because of their radicalism.
i know they allowed priest marriage, i'm not sure about them banning marriage, but it seems bullshit, there were smaller sects who made up their own rules, but marriage is one of the crown principles of Christianity and i don't see a reason why Hussites would ban it.
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May I borrow your thread for a bit op?
What was the underlying factors to the whole rebellion?
could the church have handled it any better?
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What the fuck went down in the Western Mediterranean?
Cities popping up everywhere in Greece, Etruria, South Italy, Sardinia, Iberia and North Africa.
What the fuck?
A spark in IQ?
"Looking at the very different worlds of middle Europe, the western Mediterranean, the Aegean and the Levant in the first centuries of the first millennium BC, the clearest distinction is not that between east and west, but between the countries to the north and the south of the Alps in this period. Wherever one looks in the Mediterranean world around 800 BC, whether it be Phoenicia, Cyprus, mainland Greece, Sardinia or northern Italy, the signs of economic and political lift-off are there. All of these very different societies were undergoing mass population growth, rapid technological development, and the beginnings of advanced state-formation. North of the Alps, in middle Europe and beyond, there is no sign of anything of the kind. For whatever reason, the Urnfield societies of temperate Europe did not experience the same kind of lift-off as their neighbours to the south. This claim is not the result of cultural prejudice on the part of two authors trained in Greek and Roman history; it is accepted also by archaeologists specializing in middle Europe. The Mediterranean lift-off is not easy to explain."
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Totally not boats, you cant even sail to Sardinia.
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dude
phoenicians
lmao
Post pictures and stories about pagans getting btfo by based Christians and Muslims (or any monotheists, really), hopefully we can rid this board of pagan LARPers in the process.
>Thor's Oak, aka Donar's Oak in Latin, was a sacred tree to the Germanic pagans somewhere around the region of Hesse, Germany.
>In the early 8th century, Anglo-Saxon missionary Saint Boniface and his retinue cut down the tree, the wood then being used to build a timber church dedicated to Saint Peter.
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>kicking the ass of an entire continent
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>>2951412
Can't forget this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Milvian_Bridge
From this point on Rome was Christian.
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pagans BTFO