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Are we seriously, UNIRONICALLY supposed to believe there was just a random gigantic iceberg floating around in the middle of the atlantic, thousands of kilometres from the arctic? Why have generations of people fallen for this shit? There hasn't been a single iceberg in the area ever since, you never even hear of them that far south and no other ship has been sunk by one. Why did (((they))) purposely mislead the public, and to what end?
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Ah yes, the famous iceberg death zone at the same latitude as Spain, very famously responsible for millions of murdered innocent ships. Many such cases!
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>same latitude as Spain
Compare winter in New York with winter in Madrid.
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>>2955454
((Iceberg))

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What was philosophy like in the Roman Republic? It seems to me the prevailing opinion during most of the era was that the Greeks were gaudy and profligate and not to be admired. Obviously the opposite of this was the case during the Empire.
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>>2955339
>the prevailing opinion during most of the era was that the Greeks were gaudy and profligate and not to be admired
literally only Cato the Elder thought that
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>>2955362
He was right, but he probably does represent some degree of conservatism on the part of the Romans
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>>2955362
Oh, I don't care if I'm 100% wrong. Just curious about what the philosophical mindset of the Republic, especially if it wasn't merely Greek-lite.

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Prove that this chair does not exist.
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>>2955193
The Amazing Dildoni's Almighty Dick is the source of all truth.

The Amazing Dildoni's Almighty Dick does not mention your chair, therefore it doesn't exist.
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>>2955193
first define chair, and then I will prove to you that it does not exist.
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>>2955207
A rigid (artificial) structure capable of bearing the weight of the average human, with sufficient surface area to accommodate a human posterior without puncturing their anus, and elevating said posterior above the floor, which is suitably easy to mount and dismount for non-midgets.

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The Chinese intervention in the Korean War, the Sino-Indian War, and the Sino-Vietnam War all had huge repercussions that still exist today. Korean War lead to Taiwan and sanctions for 20 years, the wars with India and Vietnam only fed sinophobia in Asia and the western containment narrative.

It's all very confusing. Admittedly, the consequences don't seem to get in the way of China's economic ambitions today, but still, a high price for seemingly little gain. Were Chinese leaders so hellbent on doing things the Chinese way that they disregarded all but the biggest consequences? In other words, which of these were calculated, geopolitical moves, which were impulsive gambles?
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>>2955050
It was autism.
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>>2955050
No, they just had millions of people to waste.
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You're joking, right?

>Korean War
>beat UN forces back to starting line
>ensure buffer between China and America as long as DPRK exists
>average peasant chink now worships CCP because they fought off white imperialists and weren't crushed outright

>Sino-Indian War
>short, effective war that deterred India from challenging China in the region for decades
>Tibet is barely on India's radar now

>Sino-Vietnam War
>probably worst fuck up by PRC ever in foreign policy, wanted to protect ally (Cambodia) and show USSR China meant business
>got cucked by rice farmers and PLA was finally reformed after years of Cultural Revolution retardation

To be honest, it's not a bad way of fighting. If political objectives aren't within reach, the PRC tended to pull out. It's a more pragmatic method than pursuing wars that you know you'll lose in the end.

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THEY CALL ME THE GENERAL
I DON'T MEAN TO BE CRASS
I'M GONNA TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT
CUZ IT'S TIME TO KICK SOME BRIT ASS
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>>2955015
he would have never said Brit because all of the colonists were in fact British
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How can an entire nation be so btfo by one man?
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>>2955020
And Spanish, French, dutch, German, Swedish, Irish and Italian.

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Is there any mention in Pre-1900 History of what we called PTSD among history's soldiers and how they dealt with this?

Was there any rehabilitating techniques for a Knight who trembled every time he saw a sword? Was there any remedy for a Samurai who had constant nightmares of the men he killed in battle? Did the Spartans have a way to help a hoplite who just didn't seem quite the same as before he went to war?
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>>2954931
probably the most well-sourced versions of PTSD from before 1900 are soldiers accounts during the American Civil War, where veterans did "lose their minds" during when recalling battles after the fact, especially long drawn out sieges like Petersburg where crossfire and danger was a constant threat for months or even years at a time that wore down a soldier's mental state.

here's a good article that's worth the read:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ptsd-civil-wars-hidden-legacy-180953652/

but as for how it was dealt with, most families and communities understood that combat did lead to mental fatigue, especially for soldiers who were physically wounded in battle. It was rare for a soldier who just came back from a living hell to be told to just "man up and deal with it" by his community and peers, there was sympathy given out for the people who risked everything and came back.

as for care taken for them, that was mainly done by the families of those who fought along with churches and charities who were willing to take people in and give them as quiet and peaceful a life as possible, at least avoiding them from having to face war or physical hardship again.
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>>2954931
PTSD was mainly solved with alcohol for most of human history.

But yes, there are cases of PTSD or what sounds like PTSD going back as far as ancient Greece. The problem is psychology wasn't a thing that far back so you can't really look at a contemporary written psychoanalysis. You instead have to look for the symptoms.

I do think that it became a lot more prevalent in the 20th century do to the changes in the nature of warfare.
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>>2954931
>feeling bad for an enemy that's trying to kill you and rape your wife and enslave your children
yea bro they didn't fuck around in the old days, compassion for the enemy was an extremely rare occurrence

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Give me ONE good reason you haven't converted to the one true church, /his/
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>>2954913
Anglicanism isn't a religion son, you've been conned
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Because I'm Episcopalian.
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>>2954929
The extremely cucked stepbrother of Anglicanism

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Can someone share some resources about Islam that aren't biased? It seems like most modern books about Islam either glorify it or vilify it. Is it really just Wahhabism that is the cancer of the muslim world or is it just Islam as itself?
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>>2954880
>Can someone share some resources about Islam that aren't biased?

I honestly have no idea what this means. Any religious work is heavily biased towards itself. That's the point with the big 3.

"religions" which breeds some level of acceptance, like buddhism (if you call it a religion), are not biased.

ANything you read about Islam will be heavily biased on either side, unless you want to read about their practices and simply just that, then you are looking for how they practice.


I mean, what even is an unbiased conversation about specific religion? In it's unbiased form they are all the same.
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Wahhabism is definitely a cancer, but warfare and violence are part of the religion.
Conquering Constantinople is something Islamic leaders thought about autistically. Think about the Hadith concerning the city eventually being Muslim, or the story about Heraclius accepting Islam personally but rejecting it publicly because he was a coward.
Islam isn't all bad but it is obsessed with expansion.

>inb4 Christianity is too
We aren't talking about the christcucks here
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>>2954934
>Think about the Hadith
Great, now you've invited the muslim / muslim apologists who say the hadiths don't count.

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Let's talk about this book /his/. I have been talking to a lot of muslims over the past few weeks and the Quran has of course been a very big part of these discussions. They worship the book as much as they worship their God, which I guess is understandable because it's supposedly his words perfectly transcribed.

But what is the real history behind it? Is it true that it was NEVER modified? Is it true that there are NO mistakes in it? I have found evidences denying the veracity of both of these statements, but Muslims always dismiss those instantly. So I want to know the truth. If there is cold hard irrefutable proof that the book isn't as perfect as it's claimed to be, if it has been tempered with, I want to see the proofs.
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>>2954817
Man, /his/ really has a boner for Arabic Fetishism The Religion, eh?
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>>2954834

I just want to understand why muslims are so easy to brainwash into believing the book is perfect, that everything in it is true, etc etc.

Like muslims say it predicts the future and that it's full of undiscovered science.

Like "In the Quran it's said that it's harder to breath when you get higher in the sky".

Altitude sickness is something that has been recently researched and stuff, but it was known MUCH earlier by people who lived in the Himalayas or any mountainous region (Sana'a in the Middle East is a good one). So I argued that Muhammad had that written in the book cause he had learned about it from traveling merchants, being a merchant himself, and that it wasn't some holy knowledge.

And they just go NO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT HE COULDVE KNOWN WITHOUT GOD TELLING HIM.

It's like they doN't want to acknowledge Muhammad was a merchant who thus met other merchants, with whom knowledge has historically traveled.
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>>2954847
That nigga thought he was demon possessed at first, whose to say he wasent? Honestly it's not hard to think he just made a bunch of vague shit up so he can make a polity, which in turn would give him power.

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Can someone please reality pill me about this guy? Einstein studied him? Thomas Jefferson? Newton??

And then they found out that it was all bs? Who would write this stuff?

Or it was truly written in 8000 BC??

no comprende, internet not helping
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p.s. after reading that Isaac Newton was a hermeticist, I really wanted to try reading this stuff myself....

The Kyblion or whatever is truly difficult for me to care about... zen is so much better than this...
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>Hermes Trismegistus was a real dude

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

scientists probably studied this stuff because it was the precusor to real chemistry.
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>>2954799
well whoever dreamed him up was a pretty smart dude...

Are Italians really descendants of Romans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-kql7cpcOo
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Yes, neither the Goths nor the Lombards had the numbers to replace millions of Latins.
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>>2954790
Do we really need to go though this question twice a day?
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nah from chinese i think

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Hello, /his/torians.
Here's what happened on the 15th of June

>844 - Louis II becomes the Kingof Italy and the Holy Roman Empreror

>1389 - The Battle of Kosovo happens in Serbia between the Ottomans and the Serbs. Both armies are annihilated in the battle but the Turks recover since they have more troops in the east and eventually conquer Serbia

>1520 - the Pope threatens to excommunicate Martin Luther

>1667 - French physician Dr. Jean-Baptiste Denys performs the first blood transfusion ever

>1808 - Joseph Bonaparte becomes the King of Spain

>1888 - WIlhelm II becomes the Kaiser of the German Empire

Please contribute more if you can
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>>2954760
my birthday
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>2000- June 15th North-South Joint Declaration is adopted between the leaders of North Korea and South Korea.
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>>2954922
>2000 was 25 years ago
What a crazy future we live in

Why was universal suffrage voted into being when it's an obvious moral hazard?

>“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

>‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”

How was it pitched and accepted into society? Was there an event that changed people's minds? Old timey propaganda? How did such a flawed idea become a commonly held ideal?
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If the fundamental flaw with a democracy is that humans are flawed, do they stop being flawed if they become kings?
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Suffrage was handed out piecemeal. In the beginning the new western states had universal white male suffrage to encourage people to immigrate. The Eastern seaboard states, apart from SC and Virginia, followed suit to try and stem their citizens from leaving. Then it was extended to all males, though voter repression for blacks and others were common in certain areas.

Female suffrage followed after several decades as the arguments against it began to seem more and more arbitrary and with that you basically had universal suffrage.
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In the USA at least Andrew Jackson removed the traditional property based voting where it was done by heads of families and put in its place the "democratic" system whereby property owning blacks could no longer vote as it was a system of universal suffrage, but for white men only, by virtue of their being white men.

Then we come to the civil war era where we have universal suffrage for all free men, blacks are given the right to vote because they were now technically free men, and many in the north felt it would be an injustice to not allow blacks who had fought for the union to vote in it, not to mention the added benefit of a large north supporting voting block in conquered southern lands. Feminism starts as splinter groups of abolitionists with guys like Frederick Douglas standing by to sign their manifestos. Eventually feminist agitations come out on top and now everybody can vote.

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>read some Schopenhauer
>liking what he's saying and even think that he's like me (women and stuff)
>find out he's a poodle faggot
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Schopenhauer was literally the male equivalent of a 60 year old woman who never had children and lives with cats.

Wouldn't surprise me if he was gay tbqh.

All that said, he was a pretty smart guy nonetheless.
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>read communist literature
>realize im not retarded
>start reading mein kampf
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>>2954649
>read Communist literature
>read mein kampf
>realize I'm not retarded
>stop reading shitty books

I fixed it for you.

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Is it possible to restore the Egyptian language?
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>>2954603
just start a coptic nationalist movement in order to make them adopt an equivelent to modern hebrew
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I mean, Copts generally speak Arab, but I'm sure plenty still know
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Coptic still exists bro. They're still using the same writing system they did 2000 years ago.

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