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I have noticed that this board despite being dedicated primarily for the discussion of history lacks and serious effort at actually sharing the historical knowledge between various peoples and their cultures.
In the name of fixing that I am willing to put in a substantial effort into translating various Serbian, Croatian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Greek and Italian historical documents and texts in order to actually familiarize you with Serbian history, beyond the usual memes and worn out cliches.
I have chosen the Serbian history because Serbia was located on the crossroad of European history throughout its existence and through its eyes you can see the history of not only the Balkans but a big part of Central, Southern and Eastern Europe unfold through the ages.
But before starting to actually contribute to this threads purpose I wish to hear if anyone is actually interested in what I propose, because what I intend to do will consume a significant part of my free time during this summer and may prove an exhausting endeavor.
So if this thread generates enough interest I will immediately start my work.
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there are 3 types of ppl on /his, just so you know before start wasting your time

>american nigger mutt or some sorta mentally handicapped pol escapists yapping about africa/nazis/communism

>meme lord: byzantium, bomber harris, lindy, lel ebin eternal teuton

>actually interested in history of just anything

the last is the minority
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>>3041169
Yes I'm quite aware of that but even if a couple of people declared an interest in this and decided to stick with me I would consider this project a worthy cause. Knowledge is priceless in my opinion and the minority was always the ones who decided to wield it.
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>>3041169
This guy's correct. It'll be a waste of time unless you also throw your documents around to places like Reddit, like five people here will appreciate this.

Would you happen to know any English books about Serbian history? Everything I know I learned from reading Byzantine and Ottoman histories which explained a quiet a few things and introduced me to characters like Stephen Dushan, so I don't have the clearest of pictures.

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Do british people actually exist? I mean, they must be a meme, there is a not a single thing about them. And I mean it. Let's go through the evidence:
Where are they from?
Not a single country in the world is named Britain. Some people say they come from England, and England is inside Britain, but if that was the case they would be British they would be Englanders. Also, heard some silly theories about them coming from whales. Guys, no, whale people do not exist. Whales live in the sea. Do there is a consensus on british people coming from Europe, but then we are left with a whole continent of possible locations. That's as good as nothing.
What do they eat?
Every country has at least one main dish. Even the US has their burgers. But these british people, what do they eat? Heard some people associating them with tea, but everyone knows that's an Asian thing. Shouldn't they come from Europe? One of these two points must be wrong them. To me, it looks too sketchy.
What language do they speak?
I challenge you, putting all my money and my ass on the line here, to find a supposed ""british"" person speaking their native language. Most of then just speak a broken ENGLISH. Yes, english. Really suspicious, huh? And I even tried to look deeper into it. Maybe british just SOUND like english, just like spanish could sound like portuguese for a non-speaker. So I looked up "british dictionary on google" and what I found was shocking: every word in there was AMERICAN. I kid you not.
What this could mean is beyond my capabilities, but I can safely assure you that british people do not exist.
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Nice copypasta, bro.
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>>3040771
No but really, how can british people be real if they dont even have a country?
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>>3040771

Even if it is copypasta, there's nothing more painful than reading something that is so, so, so much less clever than its author thinks it is

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Throughout the 20th century, Serbia turned from a beacon of liberation in the Balkans into a local bully. What happened? Inb4 Croatians.
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everyone in that neck of the woods wants things to be their way or the highway from what I've read

there's really not much else to it
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>>3040758
>no access to the sea

thats a disaster waiting to happen
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>a beacon of liberation

aggressive slavoturks were never a beacon of anything apart from savagery

>immigrants, we get the job done
But wasn't he a migrant?
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is that some idiotic lyric from that over-hyped Broadway nonsense?

worthless really
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>>3040755
>over-hyped
Biggest show since Wicked, at the latest.
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>>3040759
It completely whitewashes the characters saying that Hamilton was hispanic when really he was an anaconda.

Why was Mussolini such a goofy and silly leader compared to the dead-serious sperg that was Hitler?

Pic related
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>>3040716

HUBRIS LEADS TO ABSURDITY.
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he got caught up in all the pomp that he used to impress his countrymen I suppose

a parody of a leader he was, but surely no more fitting for a parody of a country
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>>3040716
German autism.
Even their goofy shit (eg larping as Romans) was hardass.

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How does /his/ feel about John Adams the series?
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>>3040695
I preferred his son, Quincy.
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Pretty great. A couple of historically inaccurate scenes here and there for the sake of drama, but nothing major. Anyone here read the biography on which the series is based?
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>>3040699
Now either you're stark raving mad OR I AM. Good day, sir.

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Remind me why Ovid's description of her punishment for being raped by a god was justified again?
I understand why she needed to be killed if she was born that way (like she was in some versions) but why did Ovid present her like that?
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Because Ovid's work was about metamorphoses, and that story of Medusa involved a metamorphosis.
Also, despite the fact that her story was tragic, and contrary to ill-sighted moderns, the ancients would have seen it as such, she was, in the end, a monster. Monsters need to be killed, because they are monsters.
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>>3040624
I appreciate that, but I'm asking more in the sense as to why she was transformed in the first place.
Was it just a face-saving necessity given Athena couldn't punish Posiedon? Was it actually consensual?
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>>3040639
Maybe Athena was a cold bitch who hated that her priestess got more action than she did.
The answer is Bitches, mang

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If blacks invented so much and had some ancient advanced civilization, as some afro-centrists claim. Doesn't its imply the whites were better due to the fact that

A. They conquered a much more advanced culture

B. Quickly went from primitive tech to being able to fully exploit and reproduce the blacks technology

C. Go on to dominate the world with it?
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Not better, necessarily, but it's too convoluted and improbable to be likely.
It's the same deal with the Christ Myth Theorists, it posits an insanely complex conspiracy of which there's no evidence.

You want to posit the most parsimonious explanation and only add convolution when it evinces itself
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>>3040088
I was more getting at the fact that there line of argument acctually makes the whites look more competent
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>>3040056
Egyptians were white though

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Joan of Arc: Heroine or glorified cheerleader?
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I dunno, but she was pretty qt in that film.

Kind of looks like Kate Bush

Does /his/ like Kate Bush?
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>>3039925
For generals on the field at that point in history that was really all they could be. Tactics were more or less nonexistent on the medieval battlefield. Two armies met on either side of a field, hill, or outside a fort, and they slammed together. The most important thing generals could really do was to keep morale up.
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>>3040323
I don't have a vast understanding of past warfare, but I definitely think that's wrong. There was lots of strategy utilized in flanking and manuvering your regiments into the most desirable position to try and outflank the enemy

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If the USSR and eastern block never fell
Would leftism in the west be as big is it now?
How would the USSR fit in the 21st century?
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How retarded is the person who made that image? WW2 was only like 3 generations ago. You'd blatantly know if your grandfather was a Nazi or not. Leftists can't meme for shit.
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>>3040128
triggered
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>>3040137
Shhh
This might trigger the right wing LARPers

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The greatest conqueror in history?
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Him or Alexander.
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Probably, but his kids fucked it up pretty quickly.
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>>3039689

It's sort of a catch-22.

A great system will produce consistent successes that are hard to trace back to one person, because one person didn't do it.

A great person will produce amazing successes, but they are hard to unpack, to disseminate, and so they end when that person dies.

If we have a Great Man in history, it's probably the produce of a Not Great System.

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Why did Portugal fall?
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THE DUTCH, THE DAMNED DUTCH
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>>3038954
>comfy country with best football player in the world
>fall

Portugal is fine desu
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>>3038954
A crazy shitty king that wasnt raised properly and was overzelous, we went to war with Morroco, got a few wins and he got cocky, any other general would have backed out but he went and faced an army 3 times the size of the portuguese army, ofc we lost, he left no children, because he was a fucking idiot, so the next in line was the Spanish king, since our army had just been destroyed in North Africa he just took the throne, we entered an Union with Spain and got dragged into their wars, the Dutch took advantage of our weakness and took the East colonies, and England which could have helped us was now our enemy because of Spain. That was pretty much it.

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Was he a good president?
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>>3038941
>wanted to help the Soviets and Nazis to kill as many civilians as possible
No.
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>>3038941
>created the NSA and CIA to spy on Americans and restrict freedoms
One of the worst presidents desu.
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I do have a lot of respect for his decision not to escalate the Korean war and normalize the use of nuclear weapons in war. It was an enormously unpopular decision at the time but it probably prevented ww3.

Within every civilized society there has rested an ascetic, vicious, harsh discipline. A grip thrust upon the members of the public. When the grip loosens the society begins to decay; when harshened, the society prospers. The collapse of Rome cannot be entirely attributed to the German invaders or the adoption of Christianity, but rather the leaders that let these things occur, the rulers who did not fasten their grip.

Where does this discipline come from? From whom does the spring of great civilizations find their origins? It is who it has always been: the Aristocratic class. The great advances and evolution of all things do not find their inception in a collective march towards “progress”; but rather in a small outlying group that dares to venture into the unknown, that dares to infinitely overcome itself, that dares to rule, that dares to look greatness in the eye and seize her. It is only much later when these advances have sat long enough with this class do the masses acquire it.

There are three classes of man: the class previously mentioned, which find their will to power in creating- the Aristocratic class; the masses of people who find their will to power in following- the Lemming class; and the weak and subhuman who find their will to power in almost exclusively destroying-the Parasitic class.

The first and third are eternally in conflict; typically the former prevails, but occasionally the latter is victorious. When that occurs the results are devastating- the extinction of a nation, civilization, or a race. It is necessary (in a civilized and progressive society) that for the Aristocratic class to ruthlessly hunt down and eliminate the Parasitic class. The result of not doing so it the destruction of all that has been so delicately built.
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As for the relationship between the Aristocrats and the Lemming, much more benevolent intentions ensue. The Lemmings are, and have always been, tools for the Aristocratic class; a heard to be tamed. Their function is to serve their masters, and nothing besides. They are those whom the discipline of a civilization must be inflicted upon.

This hierarchy of classes is the foundation for which civilizations rest in. The class is not some temporary phase of human development, but rather human development itself. To wish to abolish class is to wish to abolish civilization, and many egalitarians would not object to this.
The application of class Historically, the application of class, and further elaboration on who makes up these classes shall be visited again in other editions to this in the future.
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I'd rather be bitten by a flea than a wolf.
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>>3038850
>but rather the leaders that let these things occur, the rulers who did not fasten their grip

Was Diocletianic persecution not harsh enough?

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What caused the Protestant reformation to reject the Apocrypha?

Why do some Orthodox Churches have such huge canons?
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The apocryphal books were never acknowledged as sacred scriptures by the Jews, custodians of the Hebrew scriptures

No apocryphal book is referred to in the New Testament whereas the Old Testament is referred to hundreds of times.
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>>3043485
>no apocryphal book is referred to in the New Testament
>what is Enoch
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>>3043485
>No apocryphal book is referred to in the New Testament
False
>>3043447
They are manifestly uninspired. But the reformers were not alone in their rejection of those books. Plenty of Roman Catholics did as well until finally the Catholic canon was "infallibly" composed in 1546 at the council of Trent.

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