*singlehandedly and unintentionally ends communism in the world*
>>3187868
He didn't end communism, which has survived in China and North Korea. China itself is coming up onto another five year plan later this year, which is a major problem as it pits communist bureaucrats against younger banks and the reality that Chinese businesses cannot hit their quotas unless they lie (a similar problem Soviet businesses had). This has major implications as China's market economy cannot tolerate impropriety, as investors will flee (as they've been trying to do hence why the stock sell ban is still in place). But this is more of an /int/ topic than a /his/ one.
Anyway, what Gorbachev did was probably for the best. Had he tried to fight a Soviet civil war, it would have easily been the most destructive conflict in human history as 50+ years of stockpiled arms (including gas and nuclear weapons) would be unleashed by all sides in order to maintain control. This would have likely resulted in a fascist Russia (actually fascist, not just the soft authoritarianism Putin uses) which would have meant Soviet invasions of any SSR or Warsaw Pact state attempting to break off. From there it is likely a NATO or US ship/plane/convoy would have been blown up and WW3 would begin.
Gorbachev realized that and chose not to do it.
>>3188071
>he still calls China a communist country
Opinion discarded
>>3188071
>China is communist
Nice meme. It's a capitalist dictatorship with substantial state interference in the economy.
So what were his talents?
I still fail to see anything that makes him leadership material.
He looks cool
>>3187834
I guess hard worker. Workaholic maybe. The man slept very few hours, and slept on his office, and woke up to work. Arguably paranoia, or both
>>3187860
Sounds like Drumpf
How was it possible for an average middle class man to support a wife and kids by himself from ~1815 to ~1970 but not today? The economy is so advanced that fewer people than ever should be working, but instead we've regressed 200 years.
>muh standard of living
The standard of living exploded in this time period, but wages did too. If your argument is that there is somehow an absolute limit on what the labors of one person can provide, then id be interested. What changed in 50 years time that we now need both people to work?
>women working
Ok, why did they start working?
>>3187821
>How was it possible for an average middle class man to support a wife and kids by himself from ~1815 to ~1970
It wasn't. In the 19thC 90% of the population were in, by modern standards, third world poverty.
The vast majority of women went out to work, as did the vast majority of the children.
The lifestyle you describe was enjoyed by a tiny minority.
>>3187821
Husband, wife, and children all worked 14 hours a day in a factory in the 19th century.
>we live in the timeline where power shifted from the Mediterranean to Northern Europe
WHY DO WE HAVE TO KEEP EXISTING WITH THIS MASSIVE MISTAKE? THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD.
>>3187796
With all the muslims and africans they are importing they will look darker than meds in a generation or two
>>3187796
>leaving pastaniggers in charge of global leadership
Not a chance Luigi. Unlike Rome, we knew that having a massive navy will help us conquer way more shit.
>>3187813
>he still thinks that power resides in the UK
>there are people who unironically believe that power still resides in Europe (and that includes the british islands)
>Be Ottoman sultan
>See the pope wearing 3 tiered papal tiara
>decide to create and wear 4 tiered tiara crown based exactly on papal design, even commissioned Venetian craftsmen to do it for accuracy
Was it autism?
p*pists BTFO
>>3187434
Always found it odd that they never converted, given the love/envy they had for civilisation.
>>3187434
Is it weird that he now looks like the ideal Byzantine emperor cranked up to 11.
Why do so many people glorify the past?
If we look at all the great emperors, all the conqurerors, and imagine they lived today, they would be like some African dictators.
>>3187237
Because their present is shallow and empty and they have no future so they love a romanticized version of the past
Except not being African, which is a HUGE difference. Authority is not inherently bad, see the China thread.
On the other hand African nations would be (are) African tier no matter the form of government they chose. The phrase "African tier" is a thing for a reason.
ITT: Heartwarming moments in history.
>That evening over 150 bombers left their bases in northern France and the Netherlands and headed for Belfast. There were Heinkel He 111s, Junkers Ju 88s and Dorniers. At 10:40 pm the air raid sirens sounded. Accounts differ as to when flares were dropped to light up the city. The first attack was against the city's waterworks, which had been attacked in the previous raid. High explosives were dropped... wave after wave of bombers dropped their incendiaries, high explosives and land-mines. When incendiaries were dropped, the city burned as water pressure was too low for effective firefighting.
>Fifty-five thousand houses were damaged leaving 100,000 temporarily homeless... by 4 am the entire city seemed to be in flames. A telegram was sent at 4.35am, asking the Irish Taoiseach, Éamon de Valera for assistance.
>By 6am, within two hours of the request for assistance, 71 firemen with 13 fire tenders from Dundalk, Drogheda, Dublin, and Dún Laoghaire were on their way to cross the Irish border to assist their Belfast colleagues. In each station volunteers were asked for, as it was beyond their normal duties. In every instance, all stepped forward... de Valera formally protested to Berlin. He followed up with his "they are our people" speech, made in Castlebar, County Mayo, on Sunday 20 April 1941.
>"In the past, and probably in the present, too, a number of them did not see eye to eye with us politically, but they are our people – we are one and the same people – and their sorrows in the present instance are also our sorrows; and I want to say to them that any help we can give to them in the present time we will give to them whole-heartedly, believing that were the circumstances reversed they would also give us their help whole-heartedly..."
The Christmas Truce is always a nice one.
The Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels were Papuan villagers that helped ferry injured Australian soldiers to safety during World War 2 when we were fighting the Japs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Wuzzy_Angels
You get a fair few heartwarming stories coming out of those cultures where some honour derives from taking care of and protecting travellers, often found in arid or semi-arid regions.
>>3187040
Sounds like republican propaganda.
The time a German pilot escorted a damaged American bomber back to safety, at the risk of his own life.
https://g.co/kgs/DJ3fUo
The best part is that the two airmen later became best friends, and died within a year of each other.
Imagine the year is 1903 and Germany is coming up with a war plan. Obviously, the Schlieffen plan didn't work out and by the time the Great War rolls around it's all they could really rely on. What would you change or do you have an entirely different idea?
>>3186933
don't do war
>>3186933
I have an entirely different idea, yes. Stop wasting money on a fleet and pissing off England when you have no real way to compete with them on the water, forge ties with Russia and the UK, and stop treating international diplomacy like a zero sum game of beat your rivals. There's NOTHING Germany could possibly gain in a war in the immediate future that justifies the expense and trouble said war is likely to have.
Also, if you're worried about British blockades in the eevent of something or other, forge strong economic ties with the USA, not with those piddling Latin American countries. THe Americans might not care if we get blockaded for its own sake, but they will get upset if their profits are being cut into, and ultimately, that's a far better security measure than a giant ass fleet that's still less than what the British have and you have virtually no means of projecting it outside the North Sea anyway.
>>3186954
This is now a pacifist thread.
Has there ever been a retarded theory about history that everyone laughed at that ended up being true?
The Trojan War.
Yes. Those elongated royals aren't aliens,they are a giant human race.
I listened to some commentary on the annunaki. it's fucking retarded
Claiming we're a sixth version of humanity, and that humans are actually 600,000 years old
Big fan of Napoleonic and revolutionary history here, gotten interested in the American Civil War recently because my sister wants me to play War of Rights with her.
Can anyone point me to some good reads about that war? Any interesting people and personalities i should read about? Interesting battles?
Also general civil war thread i guess.
>>3186818
Pic related is a good book on one of the strangest men of the war. Reading it you can kind of tell the author is a Forrest fanboy though.
>>3186873
sounds interesting thx
Mosby is a pretty interesting part of the war, one of the first to totally abandon arm blanche in favour of revolvers and repeating rifles
Also Republic vs. Empire discussion.
>>3186682
Why Caligula?
>>3186710
I'm a fan of his conquests and tactics.
Fuck the haters.
DUDE BOMBERS LMAO
THIS IS A GOOD IDEA
DUDE F-111 LMAO
>>3186656
Someone said bombers?
What did the vikings do with the women after they raped them?
They raped them.
>>3186578
yeah, they let them live and let them give birth or just killed them?
>>3186575
They didnt pay child support.
I want to hear your experimental ideas for forming a government and society no matter how stupid. Tell someone else why their idea is stupid.
I'll start with mine.
Every 4-X years, citizens vote for the top 5 priority topics the government should deal with on the national level. Doesn't mean minor issues of emergencies are ignored, but all time is reserved for those issues.
Citizens would still elect politicians who would vote/work on legislation that addresses that topic. Votes for politicians would occur more frequently than the vote for the topics.
Every Highschool Graduate gets $100000 when they graduate. Eliminate social security. May not be used to pay debts or transferred to another individual.
Collectivize all suburbs and organize them into villages where the elders organize tool-sharing and labor programs, enforce mandatory subsistence farming, replace grass lawns with vegetable gardens. Model children's education like scouting.
>mfw antimilitarist left and intellectuals try to stage a coup
>>3186485
Has this ever happened in history?
>>3186485
Where and when?
>>3186489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_Revolution