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>>3225937
kurds are a meme race

they are arabs + armenians thats it

>>3225956
They are nomadic iranians

no, its fundamentally redundant because all religions contradict each other on basic levels

It's objectively among the worst. It's a predecessor to retarded new age perrenial bullshit

>>3225780
way too short and slim
>inb4 bloated buggs

>>3225780

god i can't believe churchill went for a motorola piece of shit phone instead of an iphone or samsung. i'll bet he even took bathroom selfies, the narcissistic faggot.

best PM my arse.

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>>3225743

t. someone who doesnt read a lot of history

>>3225743
>rome LARPers are the most interesting thing that happened in human history
I politely disagree

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>>3225811
I don't care that the Germans were LARPing as Romans, it was still aesthetic.

>>3225560
they got Turked for 1000 years instead

>>3225570
>they got Turked for 1000 years instead
I am tired of these memes. No, Persians did not get Turked. In fact, the reverse happened: all became Persianized.

>>3225560
Turks didn't live there, yet. Just some Iranian nomads.

>>3225557
Probably not. If it could be conclusively proven that it didn't happen? I imagine the really hardcore Orthodox sorts would simply refuse to change their beliefs anyway, and the Reform types would shrug and not care anyway since they don't really believe in most of the historical aspect of it anyway. The effect would probably be most pronounced in the sort that are in between those two extremes, but I honestly have no idea how many Jews fall into which groups.

>>3225557
It never happened. Simply no archaeological evidence for a mass migration of a million people out of Egypt and into the fucking Sinai out of all places. There's not even evidence for 40,000. Moses almost certainly didn't exist, and both him and Abraham are legendary figures cobbled together from a dozen different traditions and cultures. All the evidence suggests that Jews are local Canaanites that suddenly went /pol/ on everyone else.

>>3225557
>Did the Exodus from Egypt really happen?

This has plagued many scholars for years, people who talk about the happening of it and deny it completely are usually novices at biblical scholarship. From the journals, essays, books and papers I've read on the issue, the idea of the Exodus not happening is more unlikely. But the important note is the PORTRAYAL of the Exodus doesn't need to be 100% accurate to still find out if there was an Exodus.

From what I've read, the Exodus is one of the oldest traditions in the OT. All writers of J,E,P,D, affirm that the event happened, with a majority of the prophets of Israel also noting it. Unless you are an ultra minimalist, this leads to believe that the tradition of the Exodus has some credibility. Two the Exodus narrative lines up pretty well with event the Pharaoh Ramses II meeting with raiders along the Sinai regions. These called Shasu (meaning Bedouin) had a series of raids with the Egyptian people. Craved pictures show Shasu being captured and taken to Egypt. Some scholars have hypothesized that some of the Shasu made up a combination of the Israelites (Judens specifically) and migrated south of the Levant around 1200 BC while the pastoral Canaanites integrated with these new immigrants.

Others have said that it is likely that the Exodus tradition is a vague narrative of old traditions by combining the Shasu with YHWH's coming from the south near the Gulf of Aqaba where Moses went after running away. Additionally they argue that the cultural motifs of snake charming and names that reflect the time when the Exodus happened.

>>3225308
I like to hike about 15kms up and down mountains while listening to audiobooks related to the topic of history.

Dan Carlins Fall of Rome for romaboo shit in general.

Also looking for them though, as I'm not a romaboo.

Anything written by Lars Brownworth is worth listening to. Easy to absorb and simple to understand.

>>3225274
bump

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>>3225274
I love it. Awesome Mandinka story. He actually gets his own campaign in Age of Empires II. Knowing /his/, though, this thread is gonna die down pretty soon. Nobody here has even heard of the guy, it seems.

WW1 would happen anyway even if Princip didn't killed Archduke. Austria wanted to conquer Serbia ever since Serbia got rid of Turks. Assassination was just an excuse. Nationalism and tensions between countries on which is better or stronger were on the rise. So WW1 would happen later maybe in '20s but still it was unavoidable.

>>3225672
I know this, but i would like to know what would have happened after Kaiser´s death in 1916

>>3225672
WWI literally wouldn't happen without fucking Germany.
AusHungary wouldn't start shit without them.

>>3224656
Why do people have faith in logic? It's an invisible order that exists in your head.

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Speaking on their behalf... some things do lay outside the strict calculations of logic and science. For example one might find a very efficient way to build gigantic pyramids using science, and that is all very well, however what is your motive? Are the goals worthwhile? Why bother in the first place? They have a similar attitude towards capitalism, viewing themselves as lofty ethereal intellectuals and the only ones who can see past the rat race and question what it is all for.

It is less a rejection of science and more an abuse of subjectivity. For example if they insist a urinal is art, that is their subjective opinion, they have decided it is good and they want more art like it, you can't scientifically prove it is not art. If you support public arts funding expecting beautiful murals, ornate statues and colorful mosaics adorning your city and instead get splattered paint and blobby statues you can't complain.

>>3224661
Because logic isn't an invisible force in your head. If there are 2 apples on the ground, there are 2 apples on the ground. That's not in my head; I'm able 5o scientifically confirm there are 2 fucking apples in front of me. I know you're speaking to logic but I'm talking to science.