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Extreme Wewuzism

Lets share some of the more unique examples of Wewuzism.

I'll start.
This website claims that the Swedish people are the descendants of the ancient Thracians.

http://www.osterholm.net/thracian.html
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>>3233999
This fellow here claims that the Franks where not of germanic origin, but of Trojan-Italo-Pannonian heritage and have always been French!
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A classic
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>>3234007
Why do Wewuz claims always involve the Trojans.

Even the Romans fucking did it.

Since the board is flooded with racist africa threads, let's try and have a normal discussion about african cultures and civilizations, here are a few things i know about Africa (not my field of study but African history is something i read about a lot).

Africa and its abundance of resources:
>Africa has had a long history in trading it's resources, the biggest African empires (Mali and Ghana) where concentrated around the Ghana lake (great for agriculture) but also the west african gold fields. The need for centralizing the Gold trade is what made these multi-etnic empires possible.
>The swahilli city states in east africa also traded in gold, salt and ivory. A lot of states around the eastcoast of Africa where very active in indian ocean trade routes and with that expanded the old world web.

African climate and development.
>most of the bigger states in africa developped around the Sahel region, this is the best region in Africa for Agriculture (agriculture was even invented in this region without connection to other agricultural cultures)
>Africa is a huge continent so the climate differs enormously, still a lot of africa has a tropical climate. A climate in which agriculture, sometimes just isn't the best option. A lot of African societies stayed hunter gatherers until European discovery, (although we know of some tropical african states.)

Why did africa develop slower than states in eurasia?
>Because most of africa was cut from eurasia by the Sahara, the biggest empires we know where the ones connected to eurasia:

>The aksumite empire at it's time was a major superpower. Aksum was located in a major location for trade between the roman empire and india. -> connected through the Nile and the Red sea
>The Mali empire Best known for its ruler mansa musa who single handedly caused inflation in the mideterranean goldtrade on his pilgrimmage to mecca. -> connected via the berbers
>The Ghana empire, a huge empire in Roman and medieval times -> also the berbers
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>>3233549
Cont

African culture and literary tradition
>African culture consists mostly of oral traditoins some of which are amazingly complex and have strong overlying themes that you don't often find in western literature
>favourite of mine would be the epic of sundiate which also has historical value because it tells us of an alexander-like figure who founded the mali empire on the ruins of the Ghana empire

African history itself:
>Studying African history is not that popular and pretty hard, there is an amazing lack of written sources but that also means there is still A LOT to discover.
>in current Africa there are not a lot of historians, so we do not have a lot of local voices to hear or give an opinion.

What do you know about the history of African cultures?
>Are there parallels to eurasian cultures?
>Do you know of intresting African literary traditions, Figures or states?
>Why do you think a lot of Africa adopted writing so late
>Is there someone with a degree on African history on /his/?
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>>3233549
>>3233570
i guess /his/ really is /pol/ with dates
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>>3233600
Both make fun of Hitler's low IQ?

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Why didn't the UN/America win the Korean war?
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>>3232285
The game wasn't worth the candle. Commitment of the sort of force to completely subdue North Korea after the Chinese entered the war threatened to drag the Soviets in openly ,and to turn the whole thing into WW3. Winning Korea would be nice, but it wasn't worth that kind of cost.
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>>3232285
Because the chinks invaded and ruined everything.
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>>3232285
Nobody wanted to escalate it into WWIII, wanting to contain it in the Korean peninsula.

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How did Mansa Musa compare to European and Asian kings?
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He was a poor cuck.
Stop with the Africa BS, please.
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>>3231859
He was a benevolent and wise leader. Many Muslim leaders saw him as a role model to emulate.
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hol up

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Which podcasts does /his/ recommend?
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Dan Carlin hardcore history for more narrative driven experience and Mike Duncan's Revolution and Roman History podcast.
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Read books and stop being a plebeian listening to pseuds and "entertainers."
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>>3231653
what's the backstory of that image?
I understand it's a Russian smugly sitting on Manchuria daring Anglos and Gooks, but the context evades me.

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I have been always thought that in medieval, people got power by being borned into the noble family and in capitalism by being rich. But it seems like that being rich was always more than being noble.
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>>3230494

for various reasons feudalism couldnt or wouldnt go trought the stages of accumulation and turn the capital into productive force the way urban craftsmen and traders did, thats why they got rid of feudalism and pauperised the pesantry till they all came to the urban centers to slave away for capitalism, feudalism wanted them stuck digging dirt to just recapitulate the same cicle each year without further complications

'mercantilism' and 'absolutism' were attempts to have a centrally planned state under a monarchy, a way to avoid revolution
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>>3230494
Capitalism is just feudalism with extra steps
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>>3230494
muh freedoms. In capitalism you can be born poor and become rich. You probably won't, but if you work hard you still have a good chance of significantly increasing your family's wealth.

Is he the greatest military commander alive? How the fuck did he do it?
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>>3229527
Tutsi superiority
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>>3229608
You're either a retard from /pol/ or HIDF
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paratroopers

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This needs to stop
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>>3229245
/pol/luters are absolutely OBSESSED with black people and Africa
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>>3229245
By this point, with so many hates, I'm beginning to believe Africa is the Chad Continent.
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>>3229262
more like the wimpy kid that everyone picks on.

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Why and when did people start to use the cross to represent Christianity when the fish was the original symbol
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>>3229152
>When
Around the time the Roman Empire stopped using crucifixion as a punishment for rebels and other scum
>Why?
Because the association with crucifixion for most people until Constantine abolished it was with criminals and other scum. Then you need a bit of time for the association to fade.
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>>3229171
Why switch from the fish though?
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>>3229173
Why not?

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>ancient civilization and nation with absurd population that lasted thousands of years
>only invented paper and gunpowder (which they couldn't utilize to even 5% of its potential until europeans and muslims got their hands on it)
explain this
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>only
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>>3228604
Rule of law, legalism, confucian principles, etc.
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>>3228610
China's overall contribution to science and technology is nothing compared with practically any prominent west european country.

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Is the Holocaust the most tragic event in world history?

>be Jew
>fight for Germany in WW1
>be an outstanding citizen
>family is upright and hardworking
>sent to death camp for no reason

>be Jew
>working my potato farm in Poland
>Nazis invade
>send me to concentration camp
>work till I can't work anymore
>get shot

>be Jew
>trying to keep my family safe throughout the war
>Nazis capture us
>sent to Auschwitz
>family separated and sent to other camps
>they tell us we're taking a shower
>people start falling like flies
>last second of life, I realize this will be my family's fate as well
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>>3226676
20th century Russia was far worse than the Holocaust.
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>>3226676
>be Jew
>sent to death camp

Why even live?
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300,000 dead people is not the worst tragedy in history.

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Africa is underdeveloped because they have shitty soil and no arable la-
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>>3223310
1) less than 10% of African landmass is rainforest
2) rainforest soil is fucking shit for agriculture
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>it's green so that means its good farmland
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>>3223310
http://www.soil-net.com/dev/page.cfm?pageid=casestudies_trf&loginas=anon_casestudies

Tl;dr if you remove the vegetation of the jungle for agriculture you are left with a shitty soil.

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Is it safe to say that monogamous societies are more stable than non-monogamous ones?
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iirc studies have been done that show polygamous societies are more violent due to the surplus of sexually frustrated young men
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>>3222549
I want to answer your question, but I simply don't know any
>non-monogamous society
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>>3222549
No since you /r9k/ types will still bitch about women not liking you or finding women you like but aren't virgin.

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Africa has no resou-
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>>3221189
I'm not even sure what argument this addressing.
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nobody ever said that
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>>3221194

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Just finished reading this. Impressive how a shitty destitute country managed to become a considerable power in a single generation just through the ambition of a few clever men. The moment they were replaced it all went to shit.
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I'm reading it right now. I'm Brazilian and we were taught in school that Vasco da Gama and Cabral were pioneering heroes, but it turns out that they were just complete thugs bullying Indians and Africans into "friendship," alliances, and trade.

So this must be how Americans must feel about Columbus when they find out how bad he really was.
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>>3184901
Columbus isn't really like some American folk hero, Italian-Americans tried for a while to paint him that way - even pushing for the Columbus day holiday.
Even in elementary school they tell you more or less the true story, and its not as much as a common misconception as it used to be.
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Finns have a saying: Hell belongs to heroes.

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