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Don't cry because it's over.
Smile because it happened.
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Fuck you, I'll cry as much as I want. German culture is based, and it could've been the global hegemony if it wasn't for fucking England.
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>>2476220
Why would I ever be sad about a bunch of retards ruining their own country and whole europe not just one but FUCKING TWICE?
if i was churchill, i would make sure that germans ceased to exist after ww2
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>>2476220
Alsace-Lorraine is rightful French clay

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I have Done extensive research about the ethnicity of the rus and their raid(s) on constantinople

The Rus'–Byzantine Treaties give a valuable insight into the names of the Rus'. Of the fourteen Rus' signatories to the Rus'–Byzantine Treaty in 907, all had Norse names

According to F. Donald Logan, "In 839, the Rus were Swedes; in 1043 the Rus were Slavs."

When the Varangians first appeared in Constantinople (the Paphlagonian expedition of the Rus' in the 820s and the Siege of Constantinople in 860), the Byzantines seem to have perceived the Rhos (Greek: Ῥώς) as a different people from the Slavs. At least no source says they are part of the Slavic race.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_peopl
The early parts of this article also hints at them being swedish.

So, the rus, including their role in their first two attacks om constantinople were mainly swedish/Norse right? (Until the late 10th or early 11th century)
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>>2475616
>The early parts of this article also hints at them being swedish
Ignore that part, just read through the whole Wikipedia article
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>>2475616
>The Rus'–Byzantine Treaties give a valuable insight into the names of the Rus'. Of the fourteen Rus' signatories to the Rus'–Byzantine Treaty in 907, all had Norse names

I'd be cautious about assigning too much importance to this piece of evidence. As the emergence of the Rurikid dynasty in Kiev and Novgorod shows, it was common for Varangians to assume positions of power over settlements that predated their arrival, most likely by strength of arms that the local merchants and tribesmen did not possess. The names of the signatories would have likely been princes and magistrates, and not necessarily representative of the host as a whole.

The Rus would have been composed of a confederation of the major city states at the time, including the aforementioned Kiev and Novgorod. These city states began as trading settlements between the competing regional tribes, quite possibly established as localized markets by Khazars. Consequently, the people there would have been Balto-Slavic, Finnic, and even Turkic if you went back far enough.

As you mention, the Nordic population would also have have been observable following the creation of trade routes between the Varangians and Byzantines - but the cities the Scandinavian princes would come to rule were already there and fully populated. To answer your question about the raiders the Byzantines referred to as the Rus, some undoubtedly would have been Scandinavian - but it's also quite probable that anywhere from a significant minority to a strict majority would have been locally-sourced Slavs serving foreign masters.
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>>2475616
Swedish wasn't a thing back then but generally they were scandi rulers that live in their forts and treated the native slavs little more than cattle to be exploited for resources.
That being said, the quickly assimilated into the slavic culture and allowed slavs to join their group.
It was a smart strategic move that ensure their rule over the land for the future centuries because the slavs were much more numerous than them and would eventually just figure our the scam with killing their norse leaders.

Why were merchants looked down upon in many Ancient societies?

Greeks and Romans considered merchants a shitty career and something no noble ought to do. Ancient Chinese social order placed them in a lower social order than artisans and peasants. Why is this?
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>>2474285
I only know the Chinese reason: they don't produce the shit they sell. Ergo they're lower than the people who actually produce the goods. Furthermore they were seen as benefitting off the work of others.

Despite their low status in the Confucian social order, they did have a lot of de facto influence and it was still considered a desirable way of living, particularly by city dwellers. In addition, rural villages - who in China were often all related, clan villages- often sent a member of their village to be a merchant in the city, and basically have him represent their interests in the merchantile scene.
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>>2474297
Greeks had the same sentiments.
>While peasants and artisans often sold their own wares, there were also retail merchants known as kápêloi (kάπηλοι). Grouped into guilds, they sold fish, olive oil, and vegetables. Women sold perfume or ribbons. Merchants were required to pay a fee for their space in the marketplace. They were viewed poorly by the general population, and Aristotle labeled their activities as: "a kind of exchange which is justly censured, for it is unnatural, and a mode by which men gain from one another."[3]
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>>2474285
>>2474297
Merchants are also known for their immorality when they do anything to get their sale.

Like the famous Chinese fable about a merchant who is selling both an unbreakable shield and a spear that can pierce any shield

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Is there anything wrong with vigilantism, /his/?
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>>2473419
It gives the plebs the idea that they might not need to be totally reliant upon the state and we can't have that can we?
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>>2473419
Ask Robespierre
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>>2473419

NO.

IT IS THE DUTY OF EVERY CITIZEN TO DEFEND HIS/HER COMMUNITY AGAINST ANY THREAT.

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It still hurts.
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Modern German borders are so ugly. Second Reich borders are top tier though.
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>>2466606
Why? After you started two world wars you should be happy that Germany exists at all.
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>Meme Land

Post /his/ paintings that make you wish you were a /his/ figure.
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>>2460684
>ywn be one of the most influential people in history and have your name immortalized in history
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>>2460684
>whaaa why won't a girl love me whaaa

fucking loser
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>>2460692
You know that's not why I chose this one -- read the filename, faggot. While yes, having the favor of a princess is fairytale-tier, but ... look, it's fucking chivalry.

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Which tank of WW2 was the best overall and why was it the Sherman?
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Churchill
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>>2459546

>>>/k/

And this thread will not end well, and that's speaking from the perspective of someone who agrees with you.
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Panther, Sherman Firefly, and the Model 1942 T-34.

All brilliant tanks.

We were so close to a resurrected Rome...

Why is fate so cruel?
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>>2476522
Because ebil nazis xDDDD
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>>2476522
>Italians
>Ruling anything
We are talking about people who cant even manage basic garbage disposal.
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>romans
>italian

i thought this was meant to be the history board

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What is god?

This isn't a shitpost, I legitimately want to know what god should be defined as.
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God is the creator of time, space and matter.
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Let A be a set containing the infinite mix of psychologies, intentionalities, and mechanics that could govern universal and trans-dimensional beings.

Now derive a judeo-christian God that is the truth and the way.
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The ``First Cause´´ that kickstarted the universe.

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Bulgaria should have been divided long ago.

North of the Balkan Mountains should be Wallachian territory.

South of the Balkan Mountains should be annex to Turkey.

What other retarded borders make you upset?
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>>2473566
How do any of the Balkan countries even exist?
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>>2473566
Not how it works, bud.
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>>2473571

Russia and Austria disrespected the TURKS and made a crucial mistake of creating more independent slav polities.

Give it all back to the turks along with the Arab World, I say.

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>“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest.
>It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

Do atheists/materialists have any good argument against this?
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>>2473276
it is suspect to demand adherence to "authentic" spirituality on a societal level not simply because of avoiding unintended consequences but for the detail that such authentic spirituality is only achieved when the "germination" of that spirituality is personal. It has to be personal because otherwise it isn't true.
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What is his argument exactly?
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>>2473276
He's almost 100% right, but the real origin of this modernist capitalist garbage is England, not America. America merely adopted it.

Why did Neolithic art look so abstract?
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Because realism takes skill.
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>>2471596
It's like preschool art but on a global scale.
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>>2471596
because sex is pretty abstract.

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What were the causations and build ups to the 1992 Los Angeles riots?
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>>2469397
Kim Jong-il paid protesters to attack South Koreans in Cali.
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like why did the whole city go berserk over it?
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>>2469397
Granny with a gun shoots a girl who happens to be black and all the black people chimp out.

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In your opinion?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12475255
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Where are the Jews?
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>>2464296
Whites, blacks and native americans aren't civilizations. Stop grouping things in monoliths.
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>>2464303
They're white (even though they hate it)

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So is he a heretic or what?
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No. His complaints against Catholicism are valid. Granted, 99% of Christians are awful Christians with no idea about their scripture or history and believe in crappy apologetics, but Protestantism is closer to Christianity than Catholicism is with all the shit they did, on top of all the pagan influences co-opted into the religion to make converting people easier.

It may be an overused meme, but Catholics are barely Christian outside of paying lip service to Christ.
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>>2477990
>uses udes grape juice during communuon because alcohol is haram

t.poortestants
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>>2478001

I'm not even Christian. So, no, not protestant.

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