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>>2484355
>How does /his/ feel about them?
shit
>How do they compare to the UN?
shittier
>Was the first example of globalism?
yes

>>2484378
y

>>2484348
>I find it interesting also that the Incas had a communist-like system themselves.
They didn't.

>The Asiatic mode of production is said to be the initial form of class society, where a small group extracts social surplus through violence aimed at settled or unsettled band communities within a domain. Exploited labour is extracted as forced corvee labour during a slack period of the year (allowing for monumental construction such as the pyramids, ziggurats, ancient Indian communal baths or the Chinese Great Wall). Exploited labour is also extracted in the form of goods directly seized from the exploited communities. The primary property form of this mode is the direct religious possession of communities (villages, bands, hamlets) and all those within them. The ruling class of this society is generally a semi-theocratic aristocracy which claims to be the incarnation of gods on earth. The forces of production associated with this society include basic agricultural techniques, massive construction and storage of goods for social benefit (granaries).

>>2485802
Didn't they have a collectivist economy and engage in minimal trade outside of frontier zones?

>>2485802
>Incas
>Asiatic method of production
What am I missing here?

>>2484348
You know, OP, you may have had gotten more replies if you didn't spend two paragraphs just relating what you know for barely any reason at all.

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>>2484223
I'll go first:

Offensive and defensive are both necessary at different times. we'll call them left and right, conservative and liberal for ease. both sides have pulled to their side of history in an eternal tug-of-war. Both sides trying to pull to their side unaware that the true direction is at the center:

fuck donald trump and fuck white people

>>2484235
not at all. you're implying im in favor of puling things to any side , quite the opposite really

>>2484183
Despite no animals, Mesoamericans were fast at relaying messages. It's how the Aztecs became aware quickly of the Spaniards arrival. Teotihuacan was not the first empire with far reaching power. The Zapotecs did something similar in the Preclassic period. And apparently Teotihuacans influence went as far into Honduras.

>>2484183
>, Mesoamericans were fast at relaying messages

Relaying messages is one thing: it is relatively easy to have a system of practiced and seasoned runners who can cover ground quickly. But it is another thing entirely to march an entire armed host with its assorted food supplies, weapons, and equipment (without horses or carriages) through the dense, marshy jungles of the the Peten.

human slave labor in the transportation of military supplies is a globally observed phenomenon, it's nothing unusual. past that, I think you might be underestimating the possibility of canoes being used to move supplies along coastlines. during aztec times, there were trade routes to islands that were beyond the horizon line from the coastline near tenochtitlan.

when it comes down to it, it was probably a mix of slave labor and pillaging.

When reading Plato you have a veritable platter of plating options. Plato, like plates, can be placed on a plateau of interest to pick from. The plethora of Plato's main points is to be understood only by the platitudes to which a person subscribes. Choose wisely from the placards placed before you. The placement of Platonic planning is most pleasant. Please enjoy you reading of Plato.

Any order you want. For the most part they're standalone things.

>>2484259
should i read anything before timaeus?
i recently finished the republic

>>2484049
From Ham's son Cush, they spread into Mesopotamic Kush/Kish then when it fell, they migrated through Hindu Kush

>>2484138
>genetic

What DNA markers are those mate?

>>2484143
God's marker, heathen

Because China had nuclear weapons and offered them a security guarantee against ground invasion.

That being said, in 1973 all of their guerrillas had basically been killed, which meant they depended on conventional offensives, which meant that the US could basically stop the NVA with a large enough strategic bombing campaign.

It's just that the war was so thoroughly unpopular that Congress straight up refused to enforce the Paris Peace Accords with a renewed bombing campaign.

>>2484035

It's not that they couldn't be defeated, but they couldn't be defeated on the level of commitment of resources and international involvement that the U.s was willing to put in Southeast Asia.

Remember, for starters, that you have the USSR hanging over things, and the possibility of this turning into WW3 if things escalate too badly, the sort of nuclear exchange that will lead to mass devastation on both sides, which nobody really wants over a jungle shithole. That rules out a lot of stuff like "raising an army and just seizing Hanoi"

Secondly, in large part to appease their own domestic base, the U.S. wasn't about defeating North Vietnam, it was about preserving South Vietnam. Unfortunately, the administration in Saigon were some of the most corrupt and ineffective pack of retards to ever assemble, and could barely hold off non-Communist revolts without the U.S. holding their hands. Trying to win a war shackled to those idiots made things pretty impossible right then and there.

>>2484058
>which meant that the US could basically stop the NVA with a large enough strategic bombing campaign.
>It's just that the war was so thoroughly unpopular that Congress straight up refused to enforce the Paris Peace Accords with a renewed bombing campaign.

Yes, that's why the Paris Peace Accords left the NVA in control of somewhere between 20-40% of the country. But it was peace with honor! The war was a draw! It was only refusal to commit LATER that meant the war was lost!

>>2484008
Yes. Listing the reasons that their performance was bad does not alter the fact that their performance was indeed poor.

>>2484010
True, but I think OP's trying to say that they should have done much worse

>>2484008
Central and Southern Europe had lacked cohesive nation-states for centuries so it's almost depressing they still lacked even basic uniformity beyond perhaps Army Slavic.
>80% casualty rate
Yes it seems glorious to imagine a diverse, sprawling, autocratic Empire like AH but it turned up to be a failure in this war, especially domestically.
Thought some victories were impressive in Italy and Russia, this negates that anyone could've done what they did.

>>2483984

Not all the time, but plenty of cultures, especially things like on the pacific islands, had public orgiastic stuff going on.

>>2483984
yeah man, sorry you missed out

I see chads and stacys sneaking each other oral sex in central park all the time. Can't even go exploring the parts that are off the established paths because of this. Fucking normgroids.

were could we get the manual then?

>>2484004
idk, some other form of communications that wont get me a nasty ban

>>2475460
deleted thread btw

Bad

>>2483950
corporate economics
Conservative social policy
authoritarian government

Ultra nationalistic and authoritarian right-wing reactionary movement opposed to communism, liberalism, marxism, and anarchism.

>>2483938
a lot of these small wierd countries can basically just rummage up a bunch of underemployed thuggish lads who already hate [ancient ethnic minority in border region] and spend the entire countries GDP on guns and say Let er rip, damn the international outrage, we weren't going to do anything productive this decade anyway.

Sure their country is stilla shithole but at least some General got a boner from watching all the civilian extermiantions.

>>2483938

>Why do small countries develop highly effective militaries while large countries default to overpowering their enemies with numbers?

A very odd claim to make.

Quality is bloody expensive

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>tfw the Germans will never be uncucked as long as they exist from here on out

I just wanna see a real nazi rally in my life time

>>2483831
He'd just salute back I imagine

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>>2483853
But anon you can :^)

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>atheist
>relativist
He's an idiot.

Post-modernism has already been discredited 50 years ago.

>>2483823
Reza Aslan has already exposed this Israeli Zionist as a fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwpwEFmkZCc

>>2483828
>the young turks

>>2483805
what is it good for?

>>2483808
Absolutley nothing.

>>2483805
Yes.

>>2483805
Sometimes.