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So let's recap what happened in Genesis 2-3:

1. God put man in his garden to perform unpaid labour, effectively as a slave.
2a. God forbid man from gaining moral knowledge (i.e. to know the difference between right and wrong).
2b. God lied to the man about the consequences of any such attempt (he said man would die).
3. When man understood god was lying thanks to the serpent, he decided to just gain moral knowledge anyway since it was desirable.
4a. It is revealed that god's motivation for denying man moral knowledge is that it makes man 'like god' (only without eternal life).
4b. God curses and exiles man.

So what can we conclude from this?

Firstly, that to god, man is a slave. God treats his slaves well but only if they obey him, and his commands mean to keep man in a state of perpetual ignorance and therefore perpetual servitude.

Secondly, that god's curse and exile of man was not punishment for disobedience: it could not possibly be because man could not be aware of good and evil before they gained that knowledge, and so acted in innocence. Given that god gives his motivation as that of keeping man underneath him, and that all descendants of Adam are also exiled, god's wrath toward man can only be explained as god feeling threatened by mankind. To retain his power he banishes them, thus nullifying the threat they pose and preventing them from also gaining eternal life and becoming more his equals. Later when man tries to reach heaven by tower, he also stops that and then divides men by giving them different languages to further weaken them. In all these critical cases god acts swiftly and wholly to disempower mankind.

Thirdly, that god is a liar. And he lies specifically in order to keep mankind disempowered.

(2/3)

All this is consistent with ancient thought in which rule of one over another (slavery) is natural, and that parents rule over their offspring.

In this biblical way of thinking, to be good is to be an obedient, unquestioning, and thankful slave. God is justified in doing what he does to his slaves merely because he is their master. The only ethical imperative he has is to be a good master, meaning to kept his slaves sheltered and fed and rested; to keep them content even through ignorance.

So we are exiled slaves, and god has shown himself to lie to keep mankind in line. Why should we believe in his threats of punishment or in his claims of benevolence? He's the liar, the serpent, who he cursed, is the truthful one.

God does not even want mankind to be good for if he did he would give them the knowledge of good and evil, without which man cannot by definition be good. It is the serpent that gave man this knowledge. God merely wants man to be obedient.

To obey god is to be a cuckold: to be loyal to someone who is in fact your enemy, by being fooled by them that they are your friend.

To fight against god, a tyrant - someone who oppresses you out of fear that you may equal or surpass him in power - is the only serious option available to anyone with an ounce of self-respect.

(3/3)

Welcome to gnosticism.

>>2510310
it's comfy

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Why do slavs squat?

>>2510310
masters of karate

>how do we destroy civilization

Wtf is positivism

>>2510416
>Just bee yourself :^)

He must have had a KILLER resume

>>2510124
I love how relatively modest his tomb is.
He didn't need no super fancy monument to be remembered by, he knew he would be anyway.

>>2510164
The Greek didn't sacage it ?
When Alexander the great take the Persia. I have heard a story about Alexander being mad after the Greek soldiers for that cos he haven't see it with all the ornaments of gold.

>>2510122
Northen Europeans and some Eastern Europeans are the most similar


> N.Indians/Iranians and Europeans

Common yes, but very feeble, the former have some Indoeuropean blood but very little, while it varies between Europeans, from like 7% Yamnaya admxiture in Sardinia to like 65% or more in Scandinavians

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There were two kinds of Yamnaya; the R1b ones that lived in the south of the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the R1a ones that lived in the northern part of it. Eastern Europeans and Scandinavians are mostly descended from the R1a ones (Corded Ware culture) while Western Europeans from the R1b ones. Both of those haplogroups are thought to have originated in modern day Iran and migrated to the Pontic-Caspian steppe later.

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>>2510169

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Werent you being CHINK'd and JAP'd before the Spaniards showed up?

>>2510116
>Werent you being CHINK'd and JAP'd before the Spaniards showed up?

There were tributary states to China but I never heard one to Japan.

>>2510101
>gib me land, austria
>fuck no, here, take this from bulgaria
>gib me land, russia
>fuck no, here, take this from bulgaria

>>2510101
Nationalism, land grabbing and hatred for the Ottomans.
Big players in the area: Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Wars

The Ottomans where pushed almost entirely out of the peninsula, their fleet was btfo the aegean and everybody rushed for clay.
Then the Bulgarians didn't get the land they were promised so they threw a fit and everyone ganged up on them.

>>2510101
Everyone united to jump on the Ottomans because they just lost a war against Italy.
Funnily enough Montenegro started the war.
The Balkan league was a series of agreements.
The agreement between Serbia and Bulgaria stated that both countries will stand by each other in case Austria-Hungary intervenes vs Serbia or Romania intervenes against Bulgaria.
When A-H screwed Serbia (and Montenegro to a lesser extent) over and forced the release of Albania, Bulgaria was silent.
Romania and Bulgaria had a deal that Romania would not get involved in BW1 if they're granted Silistre. Bulgaria was silent.
Bulgaria tried to claim Thessaloniki, a very multi ethnic city back then (full of Jews mid you), now the second largest and most important city in Greece.
Serbia was upset about losing the land it took, and asked Bulgaria if they could reconsider their border agreement, wishing to keep more of the land they took from the Turks. Tsar Nicholas offered to arbitrate. Bulgarians responded by launching a surprise attack on the Serbian army.
Greece joined in to defend Serbia (as the Serbo-Greek alliance was stronger), Romania announced that if it doesn't get what was promised it can't stand on the side while a conflict rages on in the Balkans and soon after decided to intervene as a "peacekeeper". Turkey got the chance to get some land back and took it.

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>>2510082
Origen thought so

>>2510082
If you wanna man, he don't judge.

Especially if you have problems controlling sexual urges. "If your eye offends, pluck it out and throw it away"

How much more the sacs of men!

>>2510082
Ever heard of celibacy?

>>2510042
cyka blyat

Overly prosaic

>>2510072
commonly i face the same on russian boards.
you ask for smth special and surely get wrong.

wasn't henry viii over six feet?

>>2510004
They were shorter because giants were preferably solders and good targets for arrows and bullets. Nothing personal, just evolution.

>>2510004
Perhaps in some cases, yes.

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hannibaaal

cannaaee

>me
>the battle of ur mums bed

>There never ever had a general called Gaius Julius Caesar Persiacus thanks to Brutus and senate scums.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

fucking serb subhumans

everyone

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nobody dindu nuffin

No culture and toxic society->seek refuge in religion

>>2509946
it's impossible to not have a culture anon

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>>2509946
>no culture
>active religious culture

>>2509881
No because you're more accountable to "insert greater moral good here" than a hierarchy of command.

Well if you're on the losing side of the war and the conquerors decide to have their way with you it doesn't really matter now does it? It's basically a farce.

>>2509881
Ask the Jews who kidnapped and executed him.

WE WUZ TANKZ

>>2509823
He can't even defeat poppy growers during total war

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