>And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send [Lazarus] to my father’s house—for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
>tfw Abraham was right
>>2517671
Tragically right.
No clue why people think this is a parable.
>>2517671
Does this not prove that saints have no power of advocacy?
>>2517683
Only if you define saints like the Catholics do.
The bible clearly states that all Christians are sanctified by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, and thus all born again Christians are saints whether living here or living there.
Is the first punic war the sloppiest military confrontation in history? The blunders made here are just pathetic
>>2517647
Nah, things like the Crimean war are way worse.
Probably, but only because Romans could afford such horrendous loses over and over again. Any other state would just say "Fuck it" after they had lost 100k in a storm for the first time.
>>2517657
I think you're confused on the first Punic war
Was he the biggest loser in history?
>loses WW1
>manages to turn one of the most patient nations against him
>rejected by his own British cousin and by the US
>murdered with his family by his own subjects
>his wive was probably fucked my Rasputin
>weak as fuck
>the planet had to suffer the horrors of communism LITERALLY because he was such a pussy
It is hard to imagine worse rulers with an equally terrible fate. At least Hitler didn't have to die with his family, only his whore.
Say the fucking kid in a chinese cartoon imageboard.
Also /rulers with a terrible fate/ I guess
What happened to Mussoloni many of you already know.
>>2517563
I'm not influential in history, idiot.
I meant the biggest losers who were important historical figures, not all losers who existed obviously.
What's your opinion on the shitshow occured in Balkans during '90s we know as "Yugoslav Wars" ? IMO Serbs weren't that guilty since they wanted to keep old Yugoslavia or at least create a confederative Yugoslavia, while Croatia wanted a straight out independence, and Bosnia wanted a single Muslim state where Muslims made only nearly 50% of population
>>2517486
They wanted to keep Yugoslavia with a clearly Serbian biased leader, which Tito was not.
The other Yugoslav nations decided to part, Serbia simply didn't want to let go of its power and regional influence. They are totally to blame.
>>2517486
>Serbs weren't that guilty since they wanted to keep old Yugoslavia or at least create a confederative Yugoslavia
total nonsense, the serbs pretty much gave up on the yugoslav project and just wanted to use the visage of it as a vehicle for a greater serbia
>>2517511
Yes, and no.
It's a LOT more complicated.
The actual right wing nationalist forces were against Milosevic during pretty much the whole conflict.
I mean the Serbian right wing, monarchist, anti communist SPO held massive protests before the war started, trying to bring him down. There were tanks on the streets.
People often say that Milosevic was a nationalist. And that's wrong. He was a Machiavellian communist scumbag to the bone, he employed populist rhetoric for his own power, he wanted the people to see him as the reincarnation of Leka Rankovic.
He gladly let the Croats ethnically cleanse Serbs, because the alternative would have undermined his power over the country (he didn't want any kind of autonomy anywhere).
HE DIDN'T LET THE SERBIAN REFUGEES IN, HE BLOCKED THE ROADS WITH POLICE. HE SENT THEM TO KOSOVO, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T NEED THEM.
In a masterstroke of gerrymandering he held 80% of the representatives with 45% of the votes.
The LIBERALS often criticized him for not helping Bosnian Serbs. (The ones who nationalists often claim are traitors).
He had a 19.810,2 % inflation rate.
When the guy who managed to stabilize the currency stated that the government can't keep ignoring international monetary institutions, he was sacked.
"Albanian nationality doesn't exist."
Was he wrong?
>>2517431
Better question is why you would want to be Albanian in the first place
>>2517439
I wish I was Albanian sometimes. It's basically rural Pakistan in modern day Europe. Some interesting stuff probably happens in the tribal Highlands.
>>2517439
They have bunkers
What do you think /his/?
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/it-wasnt-just-greece-archaeologists-find-early-democratic-societies-americas
>Now, thanks in part to work led by Fargher's mentor Richard Blanton, an anthropologist at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, Tlaxcallan is one of several premodern societies around the world that archaeologists believe were organized collectively, where rulers shared power and commoners had a say in the government that presided over their lives.
These societies were not necessarily full democracies in which citizens cast votes, but they were radically different from the autocratic, inherited rule found—or assumed—in most early societies.
>"Who wants to sacrifice the virgin today?"
>"Oh I do I do!"
>"Is everyone okay with that?"
>"sure" "I guess so" "yea, whatever"
And thus democracy was born
>>2517419
It's more critical theory, devalue western achievements on spurious grounds.
>"See? We can draw an inference from some archaeology that these people had some sort of proto-communitarianism!"
>"That means PoC invented democracy and not cisable bigot Greeks!"
Implying democracy isn't the most basic form of government. If a bunch of primitives want to work together, their first instinct will be to form some sort of democracy, because they're not advanced enough to have social stratification. It takes established social and economic hierarchy and advanced society to establish monarchy or oligarchy.
Etymology of country names
Namibia
>area where there is nothing
fucking kek
>no South Blacks
triggered, update map please
>Village
yup
Was The Great Mortality actually caused by a time traveler inadvertently bringing a more virulent strain of the plague to the steppes?
it had perhaps more to do with the fact that people were traveling faster around the world thus increasing the propagation speed of possible diseases
>>2517309
I was thinking more along the lines that a Muslim time traveler went back to try to kill Genghis Khan or something.
>>2517359
So Muslims are behind the Great Mortality?
I have a question how your country names a heroes (in poetic way)
We call them "giants" because they sacrificed their lives for motherland
Pic semi-related
We call them Suckers because they died for this shitholes.
>>2517383
wew rude
>>2517271
Is that Kestaut, the great Belarusian Prince and warleader?
Monarchy was a mistake
http://84.89.132.1/~reynal/Hereditary_BesleyReynalQuerol_2015.pdf
>Wrong
no it wasnt
>>2517590
>>2517270
Wrong
If you could erase from peoples' minds one common historical misconception, what would it be and why?
>>2517249
The Sherman was a piece of shit tank that exploded if you so much as sneezed at it, and could only prevail against German tanks by overwhelming numbers, most of which would explode trying to get into a flanking position.
It just annoys me. Maybe there are more fundamental misunderstandings of history, but I'm active in my local wargaming scene, and I hear that one a lot.
>>2517249
The delirium of human races
>>2517249
christianity is the basis of western culture
*teleports behind Jew*
>>2517195
i-i'm not a jew, sir! i'm just italian!
>>2517202
Hah! Be more careful next time, you belissimo son of a mama
>>2517202
Pizza jews are still jews.
It's January in 49 BC. Julius Caesar is about to cross the Rubicon, but you get his ear for just a moment. What do you say to him before he crosses?
>>2517180
ave, true to caesar
>>2517220
Fpbp
Beware Ides of March.
How do we define a warrior culture? Every fucking culture raided and started shit.
>>2517147
Warriors, Clergy, Politicians.
Your society is defined by which group is in charge.
>>2517147
>but a real warrior culture has never been tried
>>2517189
Warriors, Clergy, Merchants
FTFY
Is it possible for morals to be secular?
>>2517135
It is not possible for them to be anything else.
>>2517140
this
/thread
>>2517135
No such thing as objective morality. We live in a system with a set orientation, and we play the game best we can.