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It's time we had this thread again, for the 50th time.

The answer to the morality question, is honour and feudalism.

The anarchist point:
1.Values(such as morality) are based on human relationships, and become stronger in a closer relationship.
2.Laws outside of human relationships are essentially amoral.
Therefore:
3. Eliminate law and provide as much freedom as possible to allow for maximized human relationships.
Thereby:
4. The most humane society having the most humane values.

The feudalist point:
1.There is an alpha and beta in every human relationship.
2. When the human relationships grow in number, they specialize and form cliques (such as a fishing clique).
3.There is an alpha clique (Captains) and several beta cliques (crew).
4. Among beta cliques (crew), they specialize even more between smaller cliques (fishers, bait fillers, barrel makers, trap builders, etc), each with alphas and betas, and so forth.
5. Honour is both your title (within the hierarchy of cliques) and rank (within a particular clique).

The anarcho feudalist point:
1. A lawless society is a moral one; a polticless society is an honourable one; a society without citizenship is a society FOR its people.
2.Rather than be validated by our wallets, we're validated by our honour instead.
3. We work towards great honour, something that can't be faked (with money).
4. There is no other joy for an alpha than to be honourable; and to remain honourable, he has to do his honourable duties.
5. We must abolish all forms of amoral institutions (institutions that exist outside or hinder human relationships) that act as law (capitalism, government, trade, democracy, etc).
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>>2531849

Thats just ancap with the trappings of a bygone era.

Democratic-feudalistic minarchism is the best.
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>>2531849
>replacing spooks with an even bigger spooks
Ahahahahahaha. I don't think you know what real anarchy is
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>anarchism
>feudalism
Pick one

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So is this how it looked before the Great Migration?
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>>2531785
Now that i think about it i never heard of Scandi Celts, but the main point of my question is about Germans and Slavs
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>>2531789
Iirc Germans lived between the Rhine and the Vistula, and originated from Scandinavia
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...this board was a mistake

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Would you be offended?
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>>2531781
Do you want me to be offended?
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>>2531781
I'm rather glad because evolution shows us that humanity is not forever stuck being what it is right now.
Once the burgers start through with genetic engineering because they cant let the chinas keep attain a monopoly, the IQ of the new human+ could allow us some pretty neet insights. maybe even during our own lifetime
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>>2531781
Nah, apes are pretty cool animals as far as I'm concerned.

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>Be extremely successful historical figure
>Conquer vast amounts of territory
>Shape the worlds future
>An article made some time after your death by some smug journalist claims you had a 1 inch deformed micropenis

Is any historical figure safe? First hitler and now napoleon? Will a Persian journalist come out with a groundbreaking new study on Alexander the greats micropenis? Or perhaps an Irishman will lay claim to Cromwells deformed genital legacy?
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>>2531699
>Is any historical figure safe?
Yes, liberals
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>>2531699
>Hitler
>extremely successful
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>>2531699
Alexander was a raging faggot with an insatiable appetite for penis.

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Does abortion break the NAP
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>>2531680
Right-wingers are completely torn on the issue.

The golden goose that is Bible thumping evangelicals who do the heavy lifting as voters all believe that it does.

The edgy contrarians on the fringes of right-wing culture are fine with it and wish that evangelicals would drop the issue so that it would be one less wedge issue keeping people from being more receptive to libertarian/alt-right principles.
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>>2531680

>an ideology with actually slaves and child soldiers calling out anyone else
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>>2531713
> everyone who disagrees with me is a communist

Why did the US lose the vietnam war?
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tl;dr they tried to suppress an anti-colonial revolt by indiscriminately killing Vietnamese people to fill quotas.
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>>2531638
America or at least many of its people weren't committed to it.
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>>2531638

Because they didn't have any real mission objectives. The war as a whole was one big military test. Using up the old weapons that have been sitting around for 20 years and testing out the new ones. The "containing communism" shit was just a front.

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Since another guy linked his own podcast, I figured I would let you guys know that I started my own Podcast as well. It covers the Komenian period of the Byzantine Empire, specifically the rule of Alexios, John and Manuel Komnenos. I have done a very basic intro episode for those who know nothing about the time period, and I just uploaded the first episode. Let me know what you think!

https://soundcloud.com/user-917120732/sets/the-three-komnenos-a-history
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>>2531607

bumping
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Pros:
You have a decent voice
Your mic is not shit (at least in episode zero)
You don't insert pandering memes into the episode, despite your profile information
Cons:
Couple of stutters here and there, or incomplete sentences

I like it anon
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>>2531607
I'll give it a listen bro, cheers for the link

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You don't need to read in the original language to appreciate and fully understand the Torah and the Bible, so why would you need to read the Quran in Arabic to appreciate it and fully understand it?
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>to appreciate and fully understand the Torah and the Bible

What you're reading in English is the butchered and translated product, for hundreds of years at that. Nobody can deny that the original language of a literature piece is more authentic than a translation. What a dumb thread
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>>2531536
> You don't need to read in the original language to appreciate and fully understand the Torah and the Bible
You actually do.
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>>2531536
The fuck you smoking? The Torah is still read in ancient Hebrew.

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King Tut looked... like THIS?!
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looks like he really got dropped on his head after birth

no wonder he wore wigs all the time
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>>2531523
What the fuck happened to his head
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Would tut/10

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How did turks living in todays Turkey go from being mongolians then white and finally into arabs?
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its like ethnicity isnt strictly genetic and is based more on language that is imposed from the top and doesnt actually change the genetic composition of the people living there or something
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It's a physical crossroads between three major sections of the world. There gonna be some demographic shifts over time.
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>>2531495

Today's Anatolians have the same genes as the ancient Anatolians. They just speak an Asian language now and practice an Arabian religion.

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Why have Germanics been so inferior throughout history?
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>>2531472
Anglos aren't Germanic, they're barely even white and are some weird mixture of pre-Celtic shitskins, Celtiberians and Jews.
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>>2531556
>Germans
>Germanic
Ok Mehmet
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>>2531556
>Germanic people aren't Germanic because I say so

Retard

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What did they mean by this?

Seriously.
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work makes free
they wanted to make them believe that after working very very very hard, one day they would have been free
sry for bad english
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>>2531285
Note that I'm only somewhere around B1 in German, take this all with a grain of salt.
>arbeit
Simple enough word, means work in the context of labour, and work in general I guess.
>machen
More complex, but essentially it means 'cause', 'produce', 'make', as opposed to tun which just means 'do', as in what one does in general.
>frei
Free

Work causes/makes freedom. (it's translated as "Work will set you free" a lot but it's easier to understand a literal translation)

Possibly an ironic message (working one's self to death)

Or, if they work hard enough they will be freed.

Or, by working they will give up their old ways. A lot of survivors came out with much less mindless greed, from what I understand. As in, less wasteful. Like Great Depression survivors.
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Arbeit meanings:
[1] selbstgewählte, bewusste, schöpferische Handlung
[2] ausführende, zweckgerichtete Tätigkeit
[3] Tätigkeit, die erledigt wird, um Geld zu verdienen
[4] Verhältnis, bei dem man eine Tätigkeit gegen Geld verrichtet
[5] kurz für: Klassenarbeit, eine schriftliche Prüfung in der Schule
[6] Volkswirtschaft: einer der drei Produktionsfaktoren
[7] Physik: Energie, die durch Kraft über einen Weg auf einen Körper übertragen wird
[8] etwas, das Anstrengung, Mühe kostet
[9] Ergebnis einer Tätigkeit; Produkt, Werk
[10] Ort, an dem die Tätigkeit gegen Geld verrichtet wird

machen:
Bedeutungen:
[1] in einen bestimmten Zustand versetzen
[2] umgangssprachlich: herstellen, produzieren, anfertigen
[3] machen, dass: veranlassen
[a] früher auch mit Infinitiv
[4] umgangssprachlich: tun, tätigen, handeln, ausführen, erledigen
[5] euphemistisch für:
[a] koten
[b] urinieren
[6] regional für einfüllen, auffüllen
[7] ostmitteldeutsch, mit Hilfsverb „sein“: den Wohnort wechseln, vom Wohnort wegziehen
[8] umgangssprachlich; es machen: koitieren, Sex haben
[9] verursachen, hervorrufen
[10] durch geschäftliche Tätigkeiten verdienen
[11] umgangssprachlich, mit „sich“: eine meist positive Entwicklung nehmen; sich aufwärts entwickeln, wachsen
[12] salopp: eine bestimmte Rolle übernehmen
[13] umgangssprachlich, abwertend: etwas oder jemanden mimen, eine bestimmte Haltung nach außen hin einnehmen
[14] mit „sich“: sich in eine bestimmte Umgebung gut einfügen, gut irgendwohin passen
[15] umgangssprachlich auch mit in etwas: sich auf einem bestimmten Geschäftsfeld betätigen
[16] umgangssprachlich: eine bestimmte Summe Geldes betragen
[17] bei mathematischen Operationen (insbesondere bei Addition, Multiplikation und Subtraktion, Division): ergeben
[18] den nachfolgend umschriebenen Laut von sich geben
[19] regional: gehen
[20] beginnen

Okay, so we've all heard of nobility, and its role in Western civilization from antiquity to as late as the 20th century ; however, there is one people about which my knowledge is weak, namely the Jewish people. So, /His/ did the Jews in Israel, prior to the Roman conquests, have their own nobility, and, if so, what was its role?
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>>2531268
>So, /His/ did the Jews in Israel, prior to the Roman conquests, have their own nobility

Yes.

> if so, what was its role?

Pretty much the same as in other places. They were often the wealthy landowners and rentiers. Hell, you even had them after the Roman conquest, although they declined in importance; for instance, the Mishnah, one of the books of the Talmud, was compiled by "Rabbi Judah ha-Nasi", with Nasi being one of the titles they had back then. (Modern Hebrew is president, biblical era Hebrew is often rendered as prince, but it's not prince in the usual European mold, he wasn't related to the monarchical dynasty; he was a tribal leader.)
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>>2531286

So, it sounds less of a nobility in the hereditary sense, and more like a status conferred through a title because of a person's own personal qualities? Would you say Jews, at the time, were more egalitarian?
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>>2531325

>o, it sounds less of a nobility in the hereditary sense, and more like a status conferred through a title because of a person's own personal qualities?

No, not at all, it was most definitely hereditary. It's more like, as was often the case in Europe and other places, it's the nobility who has the leisure time and access to education to go on and do stuff beyond farming and herding sheep.

> Would you say Jews, at the time, were more egalitarian?

Than whom? I'm not hugely up on the history of things like egalitarianism and social mores in the classical era near east. I know there was some degree of social mobility, mostly if you were bright and could become a prominent rabbi, but other than that, there doesn't seem to be much. And of course, things like the priesthood was completely hereditary.

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Why did greeks depict themselves as nordics when todays greeks look like swarthy arabs?
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>>2531220
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>>2531220
Why do you think Nordics looked like that
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Why did nordics depict themselves as ugly cucks when todays nodics look like.... oh wait

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Name one political leader who is more alpha than Fidel Castro


Pro tip: No Puede.
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Genghis Khan Gere to cuck your shit
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>No puede
That's awfully polite
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>>2531159
Comrade Stalin here keeping your country safe from the west and alive economically. Also probably the only guy to have people in the west, the soviet bloc, and the asian theatre collectively shitting their pants about what he may do.

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