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So were the Germans really responsible for starting The Great War?
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>>2587412
It was Austria-Hungary's fault for going hard on Serbia, but the French lay blame for making it a global conflict and their immense butthurt about the loss of Elass.
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It was the culmination of numerous trends and factors that had been brewing since before Germany was united.
Imperialism, Nationalism, botched diplomacy, poor communication between states, anarchism, socialism, nihilism and a persistent sense of Fin de siècle.
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>>2587422
By your logic, shouldn't it actually be the fault of Russia for overreacting to Austria-Hungary righteously protecting their sphere of influence?
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>the american OSS trained ho chi minh to destabilize the facist french and japanese rule over vietnam
Is there anything the US schemed up that didnt end up biting their own ass twice as bad as whatever they were facing before?
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>>2587322
The Philippines remained solidly loyal to the US until their edgelord president took over.
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>>2587336
that guy has some serious insecurity issues
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>>2587336
Philippines are basically a souped up hawaii with more child prostitution.
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Was WW II a morally ambiguous war, that neither of both side has absolute justice?
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>>2586766
I don't know, systemic extermination of particular ethnic and social groups kind of outweighs bombing of civilians.
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The only good side was Soviet Union, definitely not Nazis or (((Allies)))
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>>2586771
(((Soviet Union))) was shittiest of the 3
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ITT: Historical figures who deserved better endings 2017-03-29 08:22:44 Post No.2583613
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ITT: Historical figures who deserved better endings
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I'll start with Hannibal
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>>2583613
Phillip II
Pertinax
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>inb4 hitler
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>Modern Egyptians are actually Arabs
>there is actually 0% Roman dna in Italians
>Modern Greeks are just Turk rape-babies
Why is there so much butthurt over other people's heritage? is it because it ruins the romanticized fantasy that ancient people acted differently than normies today??? ?
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If the Hannibals and Caesers you autists obsess over were alive today they'd be out doing normies things not obsessing over dead people they have no relationship with
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>>2582845
it all goes back to nordicism. white frail anglo americans like to pretend every ancient people were blonde haired blue eyed.
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yeah my dude all the million romans in italy just disappeared
also all egyptians
and greeks
suddenly millions of turks somehow crossed the bosphorus in a proportion of 5 to 1 greek and bred them out of existence.
you must be one of those retards who think modern day frenchmen descend from the franks.
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Battleship thread.
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>muh Queen Elizabeths
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Yamato was the peak of Battleships. She could take on any other face to face and win. Too bad things move so rapidly that she as well as other battleships were sitting ducks for planes.
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>>2565497
The Iowa class's better FCS means they'd beat the Yamato in a gunnery duel.
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Tell me about your alternate history autism.
I don't care if it makes sense or not, just share how you imagine different versions of history, and maybe we can debate it.
I'll start with one alternate version of history that imagine in which the Byzantine Empire doesn't fall. What follows is essentially the same thing that happened with the rest of history - a medditeranean empire centered around Anatolia is established, there are wars with Russia, WW1 involvement with Germany, Cold War allignment with NATO, etc. -, the difference being that, through history, what we called Turkey would be called Byzantine Empire/Republic, its capital called Constantinople, it would be an Orthodox-Christian nation, composed of a mix of Medditeranean and Slavic ethnicities, speaking some language related to Greek and Russian. And no Armenian genocide by the way.
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>assuming the rest of world history would go the same way just with added byzantine empire
What is butterfly effect
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I don't know where that flag comes from, but I have an urge to colonize it and ensure the populace largely subsists on a single crop
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Post the worst high-effort alt history out there
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>middle age
>Witchcraft is considered superstition and no christian mind should believe so called witches
>renaissance
>thousand of men and women juged and burned for dark magic.
What led to the witchcraft fear during the early modern ages ?
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>>2596668
Why does Aquinas, the greatest Catholic theologian whom is still cited to dismiss Atheists, devote so much of his writing to witchcraft if it is mere superstition?
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Because most people belong to the devil, so they had the idea that they would accuse the true people of God of witchcraft since they can do actual miracles as opposed to the faggots you see daily.
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Loss of church power due to the protestant reform.
This is why protestants countries burned more witches than catholics countries
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Technology was the Biggest Mistake to ever Happen 2017-04-01 08:37:55 Post No.2596639
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Technology was the Biggest Mistake to ever Happen
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No that would be your conception.
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Stop progressing.
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if we've learned anything it's that while the arc of the moral universe is long, it bends towards the vindication of theodore kaczynski
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>All those race bait threads
/His/ is now becoming /Pol/ with dates, prove me wrong?
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You're right
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>>2596470
& Humanities is ruining this board.
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/his/ is to /pol/ as /x/ was to /b/
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>the proletariat will rise up and seize the means of production!
When will this meme die? Clearly, the means of production should seize the means of production.
Everything from drugs to machines could be made by machines. We could feasibly automate everything that needs to be produced (Including food) with the technology we have today. The only reason we don't is because no one is trying to.
If everything can be perfectly automated, there's no reason to use people at all. Nationally owned factories should automatically make goods to be transported by self driving cars to a warehouse where they are automatically delivered to the homes of people that need them.
Farms should be automatically planted, harvested, packed and delivered
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>>2596362
Marxists are stupid.
>Karl Marx calls Spartacus the best person in ancient history
>Communists see Spartacus as client proletariat and precursor
>Spartacus got btfo by a aristocratic entrepreneur who was one of the richest people in history
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>>2596384
>post doesn't mention Marx at all, but let me talk about something stupid Marx said once.
Also, there's something noble about dying for what you believe in. It's not stupid to glorify a martyr.
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>>2596362
Are you stupid? Why would capitalists give you all that shit? The entire point of seizing the means of production is to benefit from automation. Seizing the means of production means seizing the robots so you can reap the product of automation beyond UBI sustenance welfare.
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What time period do you think deserves a 300 style movie?
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2016
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>>2596233
Assuming that it's historically accurate and not overly homoerotic, I would like to see a 300 type film for the great siege of Malta or Republican Rome like around the time of the Pyrrhic wars.
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Caribbean piracy of the early Americas. All we get is cartoonish Johnny deep shit.
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Phasing out the working class 2017-04-01 04:25:18 Post No.2596040
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Phasing out the working class
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>the proletariat will rise up and seize the means of production!
What happens when you phase out the working class? Eventually a very large percentage of jobs will be eliminated by machines, the working class will be narrowed down to highly educated genetically altered (people who could afford genetically altering their children) doing highly specialized work/think tanks etc while the average Joe will have nothing to contribute to society.
How do you handle this eventuality where there just isn't work for people to do any more?
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At that point, the managerial class is proletarian and the amorphous masses living off of UBI and Soylent are hopeless, an obstacle to achieving the goals of any authentic revolution.
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I'm trying to picture how the economic side of this works. With a large percentage of people being removed from the work force you also remove a huge portion of consumers from your economy.
My mind is having severe problems with the logistics of how an economy even continues.
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>>2596096
If you control production, you don't need consumers. You just need to be able to trade your production for other producers' production.
Let's end this debate once and for all.
Because AE straddled 3 continents it was a multicultural society. Caucasions came from the north and encountered semetic black tribes that had lived there forever. These two groups worked together to create the ancient Egyptian golden era. It was a head and body relationship, with Caucasions being mainly leadership and planning, and the locals being the bulk of the workforce. Over the years a lot of interbreeding happened so eventually you got Egyptians of all colors and phenotypes. The people of egypt today are the result of millennia of race mixing. So the race of the ancient Egyptian is more complicated than most racial purists understanding of race on both sides.
Pound for pound the closest living relatives of the ancient working class Egyptians are semetic blacks. They still live in the Nile region and remain relatively unchanged to this day.
That should settle the debate.
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>>2596009
You have no idea what you've done. Despite your best efforts all you'll receive is KANGZ shitposting.
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>>2596024
ARE THE CRYSTAL GEMS
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If Italy had simply stayed neutral during WW2, and occasionally attacked other neutrals like Greece and southern Yugoslavia, would they be allowed to keep their empire post-war? Basically do what Bulgaria and Thailand did with their technically-but-not-really wars, with no direct attack or declaration on the USA or UK. Could they get their Mediterranean empire in the long term?
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Of they stayed Marxist free, yeah.
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>>2595868
Unworkable. Italy wouldn't be able to pay the reparations after it collapses.