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Why does Poland not get credit for performing objectively better than France in WW2?

Poland:
>outnumbered 2-1 by the Germans
>outnumbered anywhere from 2-10 to 1 in every area of materiel
>what materiel they have is qualitatively inferior to German materiel
>almost no motorization
>attacked from both sides with zero help from their allies
>Germans want to exterminate them
>still hold back the Germans for five weeks
>destroy/cripple 832 of their tanks so that when they attack France a year later they have less tanks than they used against you
>inflict 50,000 casualties in initial campaign and inflicted hundreds of thousands of casualties in a guerrilla war over the next five years; lose 600,000-700,000 casualties (mostly POWs) in turn
>150,000 troops manage to evacuate and form the Polish Armed Forces in the West
>200,000 others fall back behind Soviet lines and surrender without a fight and later become the Polish Armed Forces in the East
>tens of thousands more escape the Germans and form the core of the Home Army
>become the single most troublesome occupied province of the war
>armed forces in exile proceed to fight with distinction on every European front for six years
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>>2657636
cont.


France:
>numerical parity to the Germans
>have more tanks and guns than the Germans, though fewer aircraft
>equipment largely qualitatively superior the Germans, Germans still using pleb-tier Panzer I and Panzer II 'tanks' mostly
>have the most trucks of any army in the world, meanwhile the Germans are stuck with horses
>have several allies and only fighting on one front
>Germans just want to conquer them
>fall in six weeks, barely longer than Poland despite having ten times as many modern tanks and four times as many soldiers
>Germans actually lose fewer tanks in France than they did in Poland
>inflict 150,000 casualties on the Germans while losing nearly two and a half million (mostly POWs) in turn; casualties due to resistance activity in the next five years are negligible
>be one of the quietest, most cooperative provinces occupied by the Germans, and a major source of their industry
>only 35,000 troops manage to evacuate (because the British; French troops don't evacuate to their colonies on their own initiative)
>all but 7,000 of them demand to be sent back to France to join the Vichy
>from then on French military forces in exile are tiny and mostly North African anyway
>resistance movement only sprouts in notable numbers when the Americans are already knocking on the Germans' door in Normandy
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>>2657636
It does.
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>>2657636
>be polish gov
>enough naive for beliving france and uk really want help poland, not just make hitler attack her first to better prepare their defense
>don't want cooperate with soviets
>thinking they really can def two month even when polish force was almost 2x outnumbered, have 8x less tanks and 10x less aircafts and surrounded from three sides with 1,8k km long border with germany + germans attack from slovakia

like idk what those retards was thinking those days

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i love historical music (all of history but mostly napoleonic/1800s) and i want to start playing an instrument. I want to either start playing something like a flute or a brass instrument like maybe a small trumpet.

Which would be /his/ approved and also would there be some good sources for marching song sheets? thx
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Same here!
An instrument that would suit you is the fife. They used it all the time in the Napoleonic era.
As for the song sheets I can't really tell you where you can find them, so just google them.
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>>2657581
All about dat
BRASS
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>>2657596
actually the fife sounds a lot more convincing than the flute, looks like it might be relatively easy to play but there seem to be so many. Is there a fife that isn't so high pitched? I don't mind it too much but i live in a paper-walled house and my sister would beat me if i play that.

The upside to the fife is that it looks a lot cheaper than a trumpet but the downside is that i also like 1920s music and want to play that too desu
>>2657598
i would finger that B R A S S but all trumpets look like 1,000$

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The fact that this man existed just baffles me, he unironically seems like something straight out of a horror movie.
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Who /acid bath/ here
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hes mai husbando
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This is why people didn't want jews coming into America

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Charles 1st did nothing wrong.
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>>2657480
>Charles 1st did nothing

That's the problem.
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>>2657483
Still better than the interregnum
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>>2657484
not an argument

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ITT

> X, a Y denied his Z

>BFF's with Sun Yat Sen
>Chiang Kai Shek and his autism takes over KMT
>They begin sucking Soviet Cock to defeat Mao
>"Using commies to beat commies what the fuck"
>Face an impossible choice
>Decide to go with the devil you know
>Side with Japs against Mao
>China_at_any_price.jpg
>Die of infection in 1944
>hated by EVERYONE, Chi-Coms and Taiwan, as a traitor

Punished Wang, a Nationalist denied by his Nation(s)
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>Aristocrat, and believer in Aristocracy
>take up arms against the reds
>lose
>retreat to mongolia, to rebuild and continue the war
>be a ghenghisaboo, fall in love with local culture
>being process of re installing the rule of the Khans
>They accept you as their leader
>6,000 tribesmen join your army
>Invade russia to re-install the Tzar
>beaten in 5 minutes because tank>horse
>laughing_bolsheviks.jpg
>executed
>mongolia is invaded and incorporated into USSR

Punished Roman, a Khan born out of time
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>>2657467
What the fuck was he thinking, seriously. It really sounds like something fictional.
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>>2657467
>>They accept you as their leader
he wasn't their leader

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I want to know more about pirates. What are some good books about piracy?
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>>2657437
pirates of the caribbean (the movie)
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No history books about piracy?
Come on, /his/. Show me what you got.
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>>2657437
The Republic of Pirates might be suitable, but in a review of the book it states it gave a romanticized view of them.

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Was the protestant reformation preordained?
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blowing my mind senpai
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there were tons of reformists throughout the centuries after the great schism. the church just got weaker and voices for reform got stronger. In retrospect, someone should've seen it coming.
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>>2657418

why didn't orthodoxy get blasted by reformists? or did it and fail.

t.history brainlet

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Can we have a Sioux appreciation thread? It seems like they stayed historically relevant longer than 90% of all other American civilizations.
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Sick flag as well.
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>>2657392
>It seems like they stayed historically relevant longer than 90% of all other American civilizations.

That's mostly due to living in the shittiest parts of the continent, thereby being the last the U.S. bothered to displace.
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>>2657647
Still, (ignoring Iroquois) all great First Nation leaders were Sioux

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Is (or was) magic real?
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>>2657321
yes
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>>2657321
Never.

It's a hangover from childhood when the ego had not yet split off from the world.
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>>2657336
>magic is not real
>psychoanalytic theory is real
pffff

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ITT:People who did nothing wrong.
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>never did anything wrong

he failed at making sex-zombies smart guy
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>6"
Will I still lead a successful necrorapist career at 5'5?
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Why do I never ever hear anything about these guys? It is an impressive territory.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks
"Göktürk means "Celestial Turks",[8] or sometimes "Blue Turks" (i.e. because sky blue is associated with celestial realms). This is consistent with "the cult of heavenly ordained rule" which was a recurrent element of Altaic political culture and as such may have been imbibed by the Göktürks from their predecessors in Mongolia.[9] The name of the ruling Ashina clan may derive from the Khotanese Saka term for "deep blue", āššJna.[10]

The word Türk meant "strong" in Old Turkic.[11]"

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengri
"The Göktürk khans based their power on a mandate from Tengri. These rulers were generally accepted as the sons of Tengri who represented him on Earth. They wore titles such as tengrikut, kutluġ or kutalmysh, based on the belief that they attained the kut, the mighty spirit granted to these rulers by Tengri."
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>>2657165
Didn't they help the ERE beat back the Sassanids?
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>>2657165
They were THE warrior state at the time, jewed hard by tang dynasty though
They were probably the Turkic-est thing to ever happen in history
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They had a pretty cool alphabet system:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Turkic_alphabet

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How do you get through the day without going crazy due to the fact that there's no life philosophy that will guarantee optimum amounts of money, success, intellectual satisfaction, breadth of experience, fun, and a million other things?

Stoicism (i.e., cuck the philosophy), meditation, or anything else seem like fraudulent beliefs based on bullshit. There is no theory of everything.

My main idea (probably borrowed) is to take pleasure in ignoring things in order to optimise time, money, and focus on stuff I think is important. But I know this is bullshitty.
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What about Epicureanism?
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>>2657155
>How do you get through the day without going crazy due to the fact that there's no life philosophy that will guarantee optimum amounts of money, success, intellectual satisfaction, breadth of experience, fun, and a million other things?
By realising that none of that is necessary. Is that sanity or am I crazy?
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>>2657155
Also, meditation is not a theory, meditation is a practice and doesn't rely on theory.

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Frogland or rightful German clay?

Discuss.
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>>2657064
It's rightfull Lotharagian's clais,
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2657064
Frogland

If the krauts want more land then they should take back East Pomerania, Prussia and Silesia
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>>2657064
Rightful Luxembourgian Clay

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Why is the dragonslaying myth so prevalent in cultures vastly different from one another?
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>>2656866
>St. George and the Dragon
>Zeus and Typhon
>Perun and Veles
>Ra and Apep
>Marduk and Tiamat
>Indra and Vrtra
>Susano-O and Yamata no Orochi
>Quetzalcoatl and Cipatcli

Mostly I see it as triumph of order over primordial chaos, but did all those cultures have the same view of it, and to what degree?
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do you want the "academic consensus", or do you want to get bogpilled and find the truth?
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>>2656937
both

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Were there any other underground currents in the National Socialist movement that differed from the Hitlerist perspective other than Strasserism?
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>>2656769

Yeah, /pol/.
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>>2656769
bump
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Richard Darre is a hero of mine.

As Hitler's agricultural minister, he created forest preserves, protected small farmers from foreclosure, encouraged local sustainable agriculture, promoted de-urbanization and a return to the land.

He's known for popularizing the phrase "Blood and Soil".

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