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>You have to turn Thucydides over, line for line, and read his ulterior motives as clearly as his words: there are few thinkers with so many ulterior motives
What did he mean by this?

original:
>Man muss ihn Zeile für Zeile umwenden und seine Hintergedanken so deutlich ablesen wie seine Worte: es giebt wenige so hintergedankenreiche Denker.
Is 'ulterior' correct for 'hintergedankenreiche'? Older translations didn't imply anything secretive, deceptive, or biased; they were just variations of 'thoughtful'.
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>>2709794
He is giving you practical advise in this quote, it's not a philosophical musing. Thucydides really layered his writing with a subpolitical theme. Remember he is essentially narrating the fall of the delian league as an athenian. There were opinions he had about the war he couldn't not openly say. Remember he was even ostracised for 10years in the very middle of it.
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>>2709989
>Thucydides really layered his writing with a subpolitical theme
>There were opinions he had about the war he couldn't not openly say
Prove it.

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Does anyone know where I could look at Osprey books for free? I'm trying to find pic related in particular.
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>>2709779
>google Booksc
>enter ""gustavus adolphus osprey"
>click the Books options bellow instead of the Article one

The first ones should be what you are looking for.
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Pirate Bay used to have a huge collection on there.
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>>2709824
Thanks my dudes. I don't have a reward so here's a picture of firing a cannon in first person

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What was the best time and place to live in?
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>>2709701
>statusquoapologistsbtfo.png
>anyone who disagrees with me is sheeple
modern medicine and wealth are objectively good things
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>>2709710
Not to mention political freedom (unless you live in a shit country).

It ain't perfect, but it's never been this good.

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*plots a 187 on your king*
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>>2709674
Why is his face so smooth wtf
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*plots for an united, strong africa*
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>>2709674
Gaetano is my hero

What was his fucking problem?
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>>2709612

>slavery made him rich

>hated himself for it

> but not enough to free them

Jefferson was angsty his entire life over slavey

Also

> muh Martha
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>>2709612

He couldn't resist the hot chocolate.
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>>2709612
Let's actually have a good discussion about the first few presidents.

Why was Jefferson not taken out back and shot before the 1800 election?

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This was almost the main symbol of America.
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C'mon, you know a bald headed lazy thief fits better
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That would have been based.
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>>2709503
The Turkey is our rightful bird.
Seeing huge flocks of turkeys roaming again through the northeast gives me a connection with the past not elicited by the silly bald eagle. They are truly majestic creatures.

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Athens or Sparta?
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>>2709147
Sparta, Athens is full of boy-lovers
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Rome
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>>2709150
>full of boy-lovers
Where do you think you are?

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For the average modern day Muslim, there are 2 things to believe in: the Quran and the Sunnah. Problem is, nobody reads the Quran and the sunnah is mostly bullshit.

Everyone knows what the Quran is, but as for what sunnah is, it's the "way of the prophet". It's recorded and chronicled through the hadith and here's why hadith is bullshit. Here's what a typical hadith, the full version, sounds like:

According to Ali who heard from Abu who heard from Ahmad who heard from Qasim who heard from Malik who heard from Jafar who heard from Shafiq who heard from Hamzah who was friends with the prophet, Muhammad once said so and so.

I don't even have to point out how and where this can go wrong. All of the recorded hadith dated to 200 years after Muhammad's death. One of the greatest ironies here is that in that span of time the enemies of Islam then planted hundreds of thousands of fake hadiths that were meant to make Islam and Muhammad look like savage barbarians; the very same hadiths most Muslims nowadays take seriously unironically.

As for the Quran, most Muslims aren't allowed to read it. No, they can only recite it in the original archaic Arabic language without understanding its meaning. See if you're a Muslim, you're discouraged to read and interpret it by yourself because as the dogma goes you might misinterpret it and get it wrong. Whatever Muslims know of Islam is through their Imam and whatever else the imam's imam say and so on and so forth.

A common phrase uttered by Muslims would be "According to the Quran and Hadith, this is wrong" but if one were to read through the Quran none of what they say have any substance and the hadith in question would be a fake one even by mainstream standards. Most Muslims have no idea what Islam is actually about.
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One of the biggest beliefs the majority of Muslims have that contributes to the problems caused by Islam is the idea of "Dajjal", the Islamic version of the Anti-Christ. It was foretold that near the end of days, Dajjal would appear and lead mankind astray. Some believe he has already appeared, some believe he'll appear soon enough but nonetheless the majority of Muslims are on their toes that the world could end anytime...

...according to the hadiths, that is. Now if one were to refer to the Quran, when it comes to matters pertaining the end of days, the answer is simple. God knows. Literally that. No one really knows when the world's going to end. Could be soon, could be a billion years from now. And another peculiar thing is that for all the hadith that speaks of this "dajjal", none however were mentioned in the Quran itself. Not a single word of it. How can a figure so important in the Islamic eschatology be absent from the holy book itself?
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Another fundamental error of Islam is how Muslims treat bad situations. For context, let's compare with Christianity.

Say a bad thing happens. A Muslim approaches his imam and a Christian approaches his priest. The imam would give the Muslim a prayer from the Quran to recite and the priest would give the Christian a prayer from the Bible to recite.

The Christian would recite, something like "The Lord is with you in these trying times, have patience." He'll accept it as it is, understand and strengthen himself getting through his troubles.

The Muslim, on the other hand, would most likely recite the prayer in Arabic without understanding any of its meaning. Say the meaning was identical with the Christian's prayer, a snippet that tells you to have strength, God is with you, but this isn't really what the Muslim expects. The Muslim expects that through this set of Arabic words, all his problems would go away through divine intervention. But what if it doesn't?

The Christians have a convenient way around it. "The Lord works in mysterious ways." The Muslims have none of this. If you have prayed and Allah isn't answering, then they believe they must've been bad Muslims, or rather, not Muslim enough.

And what happens when they're the most Muslim a Muslim can be and shit still happens as shit often would? They start blaming their neighbours, their city, their country, for they believe God punishes indiscriminately. There's no such thing as individual burden, there is no such thing as live and let live. To them, if your neighbour was a sinner and you did nothing about it you get punished as well.
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Actual Islam derived from the Quran is vastly different than the Islam we have today. Modern day Islam outright contradicts actual Islam itself with corrupted hadiths and speculations taken as divine truth. These contradictions aren't limited to the extremists, all of mainstream Islam is guilty of this. All because nobody bothers to read the Quran themselves and nobody bothered figure out why they follow the hadith blindly.

100 years ago psychiatry had no real evidence for the existence of any mental illness. How much has changed since then?
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>>2708356
I don't think you know what a mental illness is if you think there was no evidence for the existence of them 100 years ago.
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>>2708356
Brain scans have proven there's a difference between brain matter in well adjusted adults and pedophiles.
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>>2708372

>you've always been attracted to women your age
>"Excuse me according to our scans you have the brain of a pedophile."

Would you suddenly start liking kids?

What are the possible ways for the Roman Empire to prevent civil wars, and(possibly) not split up and still be one when they decline.
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Don't be an empire, be a republic.

Only allow land-owning citizens to serve in the legions.

That way, they won't pillage their own homes on behalf of some general.
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Clone and re-use Augustus over and over
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>>2706932

Grant independence to french territories and brittish territories that drain the state's money and keep Spain and North Africa.

Take inflation out of the equation by not changing the silver quantity per coin.

Go back to charging a flat tax. In case you dont understand a flat tax is a tax that remains in its percentage no matter how much you make. So 10% of 100 is 10. 10% of 1000 is 100. Under this system the amount the state needed to charge out of a worker was 2 days of work per year.

Repress culture that is contradictory to Roman culture.

Do not grant citizenship in order to raise more from taxes. Grant citizenship to those converted to Roman or Greek or Iberian values.

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>Open Bible
>Chapter 1
>A talking snake

People DIED over this shit
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>>2715035
Why would you do that? Go onto the internet and tell obvious lies? The talking snake doesn't show up until chapter 3, dumbass.
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it was more like a telepathic snake desu
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>>2715035
You haven't even read it you fucking antelope. The serpent had legs that God struck off, forcing it to crawl on the ground. It wasn't a snake when it was talking.

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I was reading some film history and saw several artists in the 80s talking about the way in which AIDS affected the views of society on sex, setting back the movement towards sex liberation noticeably, and actually crashing what they called the "golden age of erotic cinema" (porn with large budgets).

Then I noticed that certain places where AIDS became more prevalent, like Russia and the US, have had a larger backlash on homosexuality than places like Japan and Western Europe

Did AIDS shape modern culture?
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>>2715023
>Then I noticed that certain places where AIDS became more prevalent, like Russia and the US, have had a larger backlash on homosexuality than places like Japan and Western Europe
>Like Russia and the US
And the Congo, and Liberia, etc.
The important difference is that Japan and Western Europe aren't shitholes.
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Yes, you answered your own question.

Young people still aren't having as much sex as people did in the late '70s.
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>>2715023
The most dangerous D20 to ever exist. Pray to Jesus you don't roll a nat 1

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How do you directly change/guide a culture?

In the culture I live in, I am tired of our complete lack of discipline in regards to resource use (which is killing us), the NIMBY's, the hyper partisanism, the lack of any prudence when establishing political stances and actions, the "fuck you I got mine" ideology, the stranglehold that mass media has on my culture, the isolation, the death of most old traditions without any real replacements, the fact that people scream for secession whenever elections don't go their way regardless of party, the racial/ethnic divisions, the rural urban divisions and much more.

I am exhausted, and I don't want my homeland to continue like this. I need to know how to salvage this. I want to be able to effect widespread change in my culture but I don't know how to do it. Does it have to be through organized movements? Can a single novel or book change the course of a people (or even a series of books)? How far will one man even get you here? I know I can't just wait for the inevitable collapse cause even that doesn't solve the fundamental problems, and it's generally what we are trying to avoid.

What do?
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>>2714499

If you have no money/power, you might have a tough time. Just try to improve the lives of the people you love. Culture starts at kinship.
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Build up diplomacy power and invest in culture changes.
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>>2714553
Forgive me if this sounds like a stupid question but what do you mean by "building diplomacy power"? Do you mean getting involved in politics, or social organizations?

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I'm sorry, Kierkegaard might be an interesting philosopher with a lot of secular cred, but he's a terrible Christian thinker. He perverts Christianity's very corporate nature into something purely individualistic. I'm Orthodox and we celebrate ascetic hermits, but even hermits are understood as fulfilling a vital corporate role, not as narcissic islands.
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He's a lutheran, not orthodox. Of course his theology is going to differ from yours.
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>>2714392
His theology isn't even Luthern.
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>>2714404
He's anti-theology. He basically thinks religion is an unreasonable leap into the absurd and that natural theology is a waste of time.

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>war crimes
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>war
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>>2714340
Bombing civilians is apparently a war crime. do these cucks not realise that those civilians contribute to the war effort and will grow up to become soldiers.
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>>2714601
>All of the old and infirm we managed to not conscript will grow up to be soldiers, guys!

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