How do secular Arab nationalists deal with the fact that the only reason the majority of modern Arabs speak Arabic is because of the Islamic expansions and that even the flag of Arab nationalism was made by a brit?
>>2795262
I got u senpai.
Similar to how a Frenchman can identify as French and being very French nationalist even though what it means to be French is very much defined by Catholicism.
The same analogy could be applied to many European nations. Shared identity. The religion is far less important than the shared cultural heritage that defines and binds us. The middle east has been religiously radicalizing for awhile, it used to be on the by and by as religious as any part of Europe.
Dealing with it implies it's an issue. It's not an issue, its a boon. Yes, we DO have this shared culture, and thats good and we should be one nation based on that.
The flag being made by a brit isn't an issue because it's cosmetic and does incorporate traditional arabic heritage concepts in its color scheme. Probably would have developed into an issue if the Mideast was more stable.
>>2795262
The same way "Nationalists" on the Americas speak their language (English, Spanish, French or Aymara, Quechua, Nahuatl or Kiche) in the Americas. They have forgoten their original language
>>2795262
So of them wanted to roll back the Arabization of their nations, IIRC.
Please explain how the Trinity is not polytheism.
In two thousand years of Christian philosophy the best that the most brilliant Christian theologians have been able to come up with is "this doesn't make sense, it's a Holy Mystery".
Why don't you just worship the God instead of a cross?
>>2795176
One, threefold God. One God, manifesting Himself to us in three persons: Father, Son, and Spirit.
John 1:1 says that the Word (Jesus) was with God and was God.
In John 10:30 Jesus said that He and the Father are one.
In John 14:9 He said that anyone who has seen Him has seen the Father.
In Colossians 1:15 Paul wrote that Jesus is the (visible) image of the invisible God.
In Hebrews 1:3 Jesus is called the exact representation of God’s glory
In Hebrews 1:8 God Himself called Jesus God.
God’s Spirit is presumed to be one and the same with God just as your spirit is presumed to be one and the same with you. So if God and Jesus are one and the same, and God and His Spirit are one and the Same, then the three are one.
There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 45:5-6). Yet there are three persons presented as deity in Scripture: the Father (John 6:27; Colossians 1:3), the Son (John 1:1-3, 14; 8:24; 20:28-29; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12) and the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Samuel 23:2-3; 2 Corinthians 3:18). Lastly, these three are presented as distinct persons (John 8:16-18; Luke 11:1; 3:21-22; Galatians 4:6). Thus from Scripture we learn that although there is one God, there are three distinct persons who are deity. So the Trinity is the biblical position to hold to once one examines what Scripture teaches.
Now you tell me why Mohammad knew he was dealing with the devil, and almost killed himself over it, and you can't figure that out 1400 years later, with Google at your fingertips.
>>2795176
>Please explain how the Trinity is not polytheism.
What if it """is"""? Even if it is, it does not detract from the central message of Christianity, that the death of Jesus was necessary and made possible the salvation of mankind. Beside's, a tri-une deity is in some respects not dissimilar to a deity with 99 names. How is the 99 names not polytheism, when they encourage the faithful to look at God from different angles?
> Why don't you just worship the God instead of a cross?
How else are you supposed to worship something, for all purposes, so abstract? Besides, iconoclasm detracts more from a worshipful environment then adds to it. It was through Christ's death on the cross that Christianity is made real.
How is Islamic monotheism not simply obsession with the number one, more, mono-ism then monotheism?
>>2795176
Did muslims just drop all the core greek philosophy or what?
ITT Most Badass historical figures
>>2794815
>kills self
>badass
>>2794815
>loses war
>badass
>>2794815
>obsessed with his pets
>badass
I need to do a project for my Leaving Cert (final exams) for history, I want to do The Byzantine Empire but it has to be a specific topic. So what's the most interesting and preferably relatively unheard of topic I could do?
>>2794631
Sassanids.
Also, Irefag?
>>2794631
>One month till exams
>Still hasn't prepped history
Pick an emperor or something, use the History of Byzantium podcast as a starting point and you might find something interesting
I'd do something about Bulgar-slayer Basil II
>>2794631
Byzantine meritocratic bureaucracy. Tie Weber into it somehow.
What's /his/ stance on the french revolution ? Do you stand with the kings & nobles or with the revolution ?
the goat historical event
>>2794541
I don't think there was a right side, although it's far harder to sympathise with the revolutionaries
>>2794541
the king as he was less rich than the revolutinaries
Did the Armenian Genocide happen? Were the young turks, really turks?
>>2793099
>Were the young turks, really turks?
Nope.
The Armenian Genocide was by all definitions not a genocide by Turks, but rather a Genocide done in the name of the Turks by Jews, Crypto-Jews, and Tatars.
Just read about the Donmeh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donmeh
The vast vast majority of the so-called "Young Turks" were in no way Turkish. In the same way that most of the Bolsheviks weren't Russian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks
(((Emmanuel Carasso Efendi)))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carasso_family
>prominent Sephardic Jewish family in Ottoman Selanik
(((Mehmet Cavit Bey)))
>he was part of the Young Turks and had positions in government after the constitution was established
Tekin Alp, or his birth name (((Moiz Cohen)))
>He would later become one of the founding fathers of Turkish nationalism and an ideologue of Pan-Turkism
Do you see why we deny it now? Why would we admit to something that wasn't done by Turks? Even in OP's photo that's not a Turk. That's a Jew who is holding that bread. It's not anti-semitic to point out a basic fact. The Young Turks weren't Turks. The Armenian Genocide was not perpetuated by Turks. It's a fact.
>>2793099
No never happened even if it did armenians aren't human.
>>2793099
Yes. Literally the only people who deny it are Turks themselves.
How is only one of these a hate symbol?
>>2792565
Because Nazis lost the war. If the Soviet Union was the enemy of our current hegemonic society during WW2, the hammer and sickle would be as horrific as the Swastika.
>>2792565
Hi Jordan
>>2792565
Because only one of them is a hate symbol. Nazism is inherently hateful. Communism is deeply retarded but it its ultimate goal is everyone getting along.
Was he right?
>>2792511
Yeah. Huey Long had his issues (hunger for power and poor alliance-building) but could have made American society substantially more free and egalitarian given enough time and authority. It would be very interesting to see how an America under his watch would develop, especially in its relationship to capital and to international socialist movements who shared many of his aims.
Unlike Roosevelt, who was brought toward redistribution and social justice kicking and screaming, Huey Long was a lifelong champion of the rights of the masses. Until they killed him.
>>2792511
Based. The American Union State should have won.
He was basically Bernie Sanders of the 30s right? Ben Shapiro recommended a new biography about him today is that why the thread was created?
Of course the assassination would make him a martyr but in this case I can't say I feel bad for him.
Post fashion
This is from 1521 Livonia
>>2792374
>>2792444
OP here from the battle guess thread. Since it 404'd it's time for another game:
Guess the /his/toric figure
There are only 2 rules:
- the discription has to be vague
- you have to include the time period (ancient times, Renaissance, enlightenment etc.)
I'll start with a /his/ classic
Time period:
>ancient times
Bio:
>be me
>kill the murderers of my friend
>some lame faggot tries to challenge me after this
>fuck his sister
>fuck my old friends' hoe
>lose against the lil faggot
>kill myself
Mark anthony
1500s
> ''tis but scratch
> the Spanish will never defeat the Black Knight
>>2792890
1800s
"Yall niggers better let us and our friends in on that little deal you've got with the Dutch or else... *points to cannons*
You've got a year."
How come we don't talk about the Phoenicians? Their whole empire revolves around selling people stuff. Is there any stories or accounts of other cultures meeting the Phoenicians traders? Also, why is there a level of "mysticism" behind the Phoenicians? for example of stories of them going to America or Australia.
>How come we don't talk about the Phoenicians?
Who doesn't?
>>2787030
>Is there any stories or accounts of other cultures meeting the Phoenicians traders?
What do you think? Of course there are, trading with them was an everyday thing.
>>2787030
It's a strange civilisation. Theres even people trying to connect the Phoenician language with Irish. The first line in pic related is in Phoenician, the second line is Irish and the third is the English translation.
>>2787047
I meant more like interesting facts or tidbits to post on here. Kinda like "Chrysippus was a Greek philosopher who died laughing at his own joke"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Marshes
>Zealous Iranians rush a giant swamp in a huge soviet style counter attack
>Saddam starts bombing the shit out of them with mustard gas and sends helicopters to 'hunt down' the thousands of Persians wading through chest high water
>50 Iranian helicopters try to reinforce but are ambushed and completely btfo by Iraqi jets
>Saddam then runs electrical wiring through the swamp and electrocutes the Persian soldiers on a scale that would make Mike Pence blush
>parades their corpses on state TV
>Iran finally takes the swamp after losing 20,000 men
Why the fuck does nobody talk about this war?
Because it's inconvenient to remember that the entire world backed Saddam fucking Hussein in an invasion of a sovereign nation, and only just managed to save him from getting BTFO completely.
>>2785744
Because Saddam did nothing wrong and the world hates to recognize it
Also because the house of Saud still has some grip in western media
>>2785744
Because we turned a blind eye to Saddam using the shit out of chemical weapons in the name of geopolitics then hypocritically took him out two decades later, blew up a civilian airliner with 290 innocent people onboard (basically pulled a Russia), and got caught fucking over the Iraqis, Israelis, and the rest of the Gulf Arab states via the Iran-Contra affair, destroying our credibility in the region, and our "strict neutrality" policy was a fucking joke. I'm writing a paper on this right now (no thanks y'all faggots, thanks for the sources). If you wanna know more and this thread is still up when I finish, let me know. In the meantime, read Bryan Gibson's Covert Relationship. I only got a copy of his Master's thesis but it's an excellent primer on the material. There's also a ton of transcripts with Saddam Hussein speaking directly about the war:
digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/168/saddam-hussein-s-iraq
There's an interview with one of Saddam's favorite military officers about political, strategic, operational, and tactical matters called Saddam's War: an Iraqi Military Perspective on the Iran-Iraq War.
What do you guys think of HEMA? Is it /his/ approved?
That's like asking what people think of boxing or football. It's a sport like any other.
>>2784379
gay LARPing, not a real sport
>>2784379
Totally, the study of martial culture certainly falls under humanities and often history. There is an academic discipline called hopology which does so systematically.
While my own interest is in the Japanese sword methods I love reading about weapon arts from all times and cultures
Why is the modern man unhappy?
I'm not. Get fucked faggot
>>2778412
fpbp
>>2778402
Alienation of the worker from the product of his labor.
>>2776950
Karlis Ulmanis, dictator of independent Latvia during the end of the inter-war period. Like most dictators there's a mixed opinion of him, but he generally was a mild leader who seemed to work more for the interests of the country & its people instead of enriching himself or cronies with the power of the state.
>inb4 Hitler