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Buddhism doesn't have a problem with Christianity, Christianity has a problem with Buddhism.

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>Kropotkin applies these ideas concerning evolution, science and ethics in his analysis of religion. He sees religion as having two opposed dimensions. On the one hand, it has expressed the human tendency toward mutual aid and solidarity, thus furthering social evolution. He sees the religious precept of doing to others as one would have them do to oneself as only the developed form of the ethics that pervades nature. In his view, both Buddhism and Christianity differed from all previous religions by replacing cruel and vengeful gods with “an ideal man-god” who taught a religion of love. He credited Shakyamuni Buddha with introducing such concepts as universal compassion and kindness, love for ones enemies, sympathy for all living beings, contempt for wealth, andthe equality of all human beings. He saw Christianity as a very similar but “higher” teaching than Buddhism, noting that Jesus (unlike Buddha, who was a Prince) came from among the ordinary people, and early Christianity showed a strong identification with the oppressed. He also argued that although Buddhism and Christianity were a break with previous religions, they were merely universalizing principles that were practiced within tribal religion, which applied principles of love, equity, and disinterested generosity within the bounds of the tribe, and which had their natural basis in the evolutionary value of mutual aid.
http://www.academia.edu/3463367/_Kropotkin_Religion_and_Nature_

>Then you come to moral questions. There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment. Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment, and one does find repeatedly a vindictive fury against those people who would not listen to His preaching—an attitude which is not uncommon with preachers, but which does somewhat detract from superlative excellence. You do not, for instance, find that attitude in Socrates. You find him quite bland and urbane towards the people who would not listen to him; and it is, to my mind, far more worthy of a sage to take that line than to take the line of indignation. You probably all remember the sort of things that Socrates was saying when he was dying, and the sort of things that he generally did say to people who did not agree with him.

>You will find that in the Gospels Christ said: ‘Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?’ That was said to people who did not like His preaching. It is not really to my mind quite the best tone, and there are a great many of these things about hell. There is, of course, the familiar text about the sin against the Holy Ghost: ‘Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him neither in this world nor in the world of come.’ That text has caused an unspeakable amount of misery in the world, for all sorts of people have imagined that they have committed the sin against the Holy Ghost, and thought that it would not be forgiven them either in this world or in the world to come. I really do not think that a person with a proper degree of kindliness in his nature would have put fears and terrors of that sort into the world.
https://users.drew.edu/jlenz/whynot.html

>>2806784
Why is Jesus's abs a dick and balls?

>>2806786
You're terrible, Freud.

>>2806784
I want to believe in God but I have several issues

>If he was real he would not want me
>There is no reason to believe in him
>>because I gave a man a handjob when I was young and naïve I should surely be put to death

>>2806706
He's wrong. Science cannot, in principle, address questions of metaphysics (being, consciousness, etc.) and ethics.

>>2806709
Why don't you think there can't be a measurable determination of consciousness or the relative strengths and outcomes of ethics?

>>2806724
Well, I was a bit extreme perhaps about metaphysics... I think that it's possible science may touch on questions of being and consciousness at some point, but it would require immense and unprecedented leaps forward in science. At the moment, science has zero answers to the hard problem of consciousness. As for ethics, I can't imagine any scientific progress being made on the matter regardless of how much science advances in other regards. Science can shed light on how particular ethical schemes are likely to unfold in the real world, but science cannot address questions of what is right and wrong.

>Philadelphia

>>2806708
I live next to Philadelphia and I visit Montreal more than I visit fucking Philadelphia. It's that bad.

more than 250 people were left homeless as a result of the fires

great job

>>2806643
No

Why do you care about fucking Prussia? Germany is a thing

>>2806691
Why?

The great famine from 1959-1962 is the worst famine in human history killing over 30 million people. It was almost entirely manmade due to Mao's autism.

>wants to industrialize china so it can catch up with the western nations
>China doesn't really have the capital to follow the soviet model of industrialization, few people have technical experience
>an entire generation of intellectuals have been disenfranchised due to the anti-rightist campaign where Mao asked intellectuals and students to speak up about areas where the government wasn't working, then a few months later arrested everyone who did as a counter revolutionary
>there were a lot of Soviet industrial experts helping to build factories in China but when Khrushchev was trying to mend fences with Washington Mao attacked Taiwan without warning him, this led to the sino-soviet split and all the soviets were withdrawn

>so to industrialize Mao came up with the brilliant idea that he'd use people power and have the chinese people smelt steel in backyard furnaces
>all chinese in the country (about 90% of the population) were living in communes, and every commune had all of its men working day and night to keep forges operational
>to get the raw metal for the forges any scrap iron was used, all tools were smelted as well
>china was massively deforested to keep the forges burning
>since the people working the forges had no technical knowhow about smelting all the iron they made was completely worthless and cracked as soon as it was heated
>now we have no tools and all the men are manning the forges instead of farming, awesome
>meanwhile the atmosphere of utopianism had overtaken local party leaders who were competing with one another to produce the most grain
>when grain production fell instead of grew the leaders simply lied and reported they had met their impossibly high goals and the government responded accordingly by taking such a large amount of grain that there wasn't enough to feed people, millions died

>in previous eras when there was famine people would leave their homelands and go begging in other parts of china that weren't effected by the famine
>however now people were forced to stay on their communes so they had to stay and starve to death
>in late 1959 Peng Dehuai, the minister of defense attended the Lushan conference (a conference for discussing whether or not the great leap forward was working) and spoke openly about how clearly this plan had failed and it needed to be stopped
>Mao had been planning on stepping back from the great leap forward but as if feeling overly defensive for having been criticized he purged Peng (despite the two being old friends) and decided not to change the great leap forward at all. If Mao had listened to him millions might have lived.

>numerous insane efforts were made to reverse the crop failure like close planting, which was where plants of the same type are planted closely together, the idea being that the same species wouldn't compete with itself. In reality however it did and yields were lower.
>another method was deep planting where soil from feet below the surface was dug up and crops were planted there, this also reduced yields as topsoil has all the nutrients

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here's a quote from the book wild swans, which was a memoir about this period

>In Chengdu, the monthly food ration for each adult was reduced to 19 pounds of rice, 3.5 ounces of cooking off, and 3- 5 ounces of meat, when there was any.
>Scarcely anything else was available, not even cabbage.
>Many people were afflicted by edema, a condition in which fluid accumulates under the skin because of malnutrition. The patient turns yellow and swells up. The most popular remedy was eating chlorella, which was supposed to be rich in protein. Chlorella fed on human urine, so people stopped going to the toilet and peed into spittoons instead, then dropped the chlorella seeds in; they grew into something looking like green fish roe in a couple of days, and were scooped out of the urine, washed, and cooked with rice. They were truly disgusting to eat, but did reduce the swelling.

>>2806607
It's quite interesting since Muhammad was only meant to be the prophet of the Arabs according to the Quran.

We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom.
Surah 14:4 (Yusef Ali)

This is the main passage and it sortof very difficult to understand.

>Every Muslim must make a pilgrimage to Arabia
Best marketing plot ever, desu.

>>2807948
Ibn Kathir does admit in his literature that Islam had a form of money making scheme by fighting non-Muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmsL0p6jnI

Become his friend and work your way into his confidence. Become his lover, let him fuck your sweet little ass. Then, while he sleeps, hang yourself over his bed.

>>2806589
Don't fall for memes as often, that should give you a good start. Most people in real life aren't weak willed horror movie protagonists, and the level of trauma you're describing requires things that'll probably put you in prison.

>>2806589
Can't you just beat him up?

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>tfw Nestorian Christianity tried so hard and came so far but in the end it didn't even matter

Daily reminder that Islam is just a Christian heresy, similar to Jehovah's Witnesses.

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>>2806565
> tfw when Hulagu Khan never consolidated the Ilkhanate and made it a Nestorian state when he had a chance to do so, bringing terror into the hearts of Muslims west and east of Persia

>Old Testement
>Christianity
Pick one.

>>2806478
Jesus never says NOT to kill people the Old Testament does.

Checkmate christcucks.

>>2806478
>>2806478
>Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

>>2806359
You have to tie it up with a specific political event in order for it to at least be sensible.

>>2806359
No, it's an extremely simplistic reduction of a much more complex reality. For example, the image you linked is absurd. Classical liberals and fascists are as different from each other as either is from "leftists".

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>>2806359
Spectrum? No. Compass? Maybe.

The real question is: How many axes are necessary?

Cato the Younger because fuck you Caesar.

Cicero because fuck you Catilina

Cato the Elder because fuck you Carthage.

>>2806068
Capitalism
And Industry were born here
But flowers fucked it

>>2806068
We wuz kangs n' shiet
For a hundred years or so
But then we wusn't

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Loved to battle France
Military tradition
Nicky messed it up

>>2805906
why would you want to be overcome with slave-morality, OP?

in b4
>1 day u will have reckoning with GOD!!!111!!!!!
>GOD LOVES you but you will BURN in hell if you forsake HIS love!!!!!
>this is the DEVIL trying to undermine GOD's kive for YOU!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!

why do Christcucks type like this?

>>2805928
i don't want to become a christian tho

>>2805906
Lots of religious people dont believe in God. You just hqve to become a dishonest weasel and youre good to go.

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>>2805888
Hearken'th to my't wisdom: Just read Wikipedia pages

>>2805888

It's not about the number of books you've read. It's about how often you actually read them. At least 1 per month I would say.

It's not about how many, it's about which, and how you use them


But to be more precise, don't worry about that, just read what you think you would like, and at your own speed. If you do that, it will probably come to you in time